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Old 9th March 2017, 04:17 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
I think this is unduly elevating Trump by linking him to a great historic leader.
Come to think of it, there are similarities. Both are divisive figures with devout supporters and implacable foes, both have terrible hair, both are tubby, both have a reputation for being sexual creepers, both had children with awful foreign adventuresses many years their junior.
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Old 9th March 2017, 07:34 PM   #42
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Actually, that's how we got in this situation in the first place.
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Old 10th March 2017, 03:06 AM   #43
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I'm in, sounds like fun.
What a joke. The only thing missing is the claim that they have "2814 Architects and Engineers" on their side.

People can waste their time and money on sending postcards till the cows come home, and come morning, Trump will still be the President.

Folks need to get over it, and get on with their lives. Don't like him? Then vote him the hell out of office come next election.

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Old 10th March 2017, 05:31 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
You sound worried by that.

You project
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Old 10th March 2017, 05:35 AM   #45
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All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?
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Originally Posted by willim View Post
What a joke. The only thing missing is the claim that they have "2814 Architects and Engineers" on their side.

People can waste their time and money on sending postcards till the cows come home, and come morning, Trump will still be the President.

Folks need to get over it, and get on with their lives. Don't like him? Then vote him the hell out of office come next election.
I remember someone posting back in 2010 the same sort of "get over it" nonsense about a bunch of red-blooded true blue Murkins mailing tea bags into the White House. Like those damned idiot conservatives thought they were going to change anything by organizing on a town hall and grass roots level! Don't make me laugh! You're finished. Get over it, LOL Paleos!
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This is Trump. We'll see a stupid tweet about it and they'll all either go straight into an incinerator or combed through to make a list of names and addresses of "political extremists".
I save them the trouble. I directly confront Trump on Twitter, and Breibart ilk on that site, under my own name. Not a fair fight, as it turns out. Sad.
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There ya go.

Millions of packages full of aluminum foil getting sent to the White House all at once.

That'll really keep the security people on their toes.
I like it, except for all of that waste cardboard and foil that might not get properly recycled. Maybe it should be a hand made foil hat in a letter size priority mail sleeve.
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All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?
They gave us the Super Bowl numbers.
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Am I the only one wondering if this is some sort of spoof? I mean, the Ides of March thing is wince-worthy, and the notion that postcards can bring down Trump does seem just a tad fanciful.

On the other hand, as I have observed often in the past, the party out of power goes insane, while the party in power grows arrogant. They seem to have pinned the meter on both sides this time around.
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What a joke. The only thing missing is the claim that they have "2814 Architects and Engineers" on their side.

People can waste their time and money on sending postcards till the cows come home, and come morning, Trump will still be the President.

Folks need to get over it, and get on with their lives. Don't like him? Then vote him the hell out of office come next election.
Though this particular protest is a rubbish idea, much of the reason for doing stuff like this is to build networks of activists to facilitate booting Republicans out of office next election. The Tea Party movement has already been mentioned as an example of the right doing something similar when they were out of power.
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Am I the only one wondering if this is some sort of spoof? I mean, the Ides of March thing is wince-worthy, and the notion that postcards can bring down Trump does seem just a tad fanciful.

On the other hand, as I have observed often in the past, the party out of power goes insane, while the party in power grows arrogant. They seem to have pinned the meter on both sides this time around.
Surely, the party in power (at least in the executive branch) is also going insane.
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I'm sorry but I would bet good money that 95% of Americans, heck 95% of people the world over don't know what the Ides of March refers to, and I am probably erring on the side of caution here. So yes, only a better educated conspiracy theorist would go where you are going with this.
Caesar's assassination - hard not to know that one unless you skipped High School English an awful lot!!!!! Or never were made to watch the Brando version of same!!!!!
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Caesar's assassination - hard not to know that one unless you skipped High School English an awful lot!!!!! Or never were made to watch the Brando version of same!!!!!

I think you might be overly optimistic concerning the number of students actually exposed to it in any meaningful way, but leaving that aside there is also the problem of how many of those few managed to retain anything about it.
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Am I the only one wondering if this is some sort of spoof? I mean, the Ides of March thing is wince-worthy, and the notion that postcards can bring down Trump does seem just a tad fanciful.

On the other hand, as I have observed often in the past, the party out of power goes insane, while the party in power grows arrogant. They seem to have pinned the meter on both sides this time around.
Do you seriously not see how dysfunctional Trump is? That's mind boggling. It's not ideology here Dude, it's dysfunction, obvious incompetent dysfunction.
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Surely, the party in power (at least in the executive branch) is also going insane.
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What a joke. The only thing missing is the claim that they have "2814 Architects and Engineers" on their side.
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I agree.
I have monitored the "2800+ A&E" for years, and a number of petitions and similar efforts to count insurgent support on the side of 9/11 Truthers, and invariably, they would overestimate their reach and impact by orders of magnitude. Typically about 2 orders of magnitude, in fact: If they think they can reach a million they get ten thousand, etc.

So in this case, since the organizers hope for "millions", the best they coud hope for is tens of thousands. And indeed: Their Facebook page has 12K likes, 13K followers; the FB event page has "27K Going ∑ 15K Interested". Now that's Facebook - you can like, invite or accept an invite with a mere click in the comfort of your basement. Highly doubtful that even 1% of those will get up their arse, buy a postcard and a stamp, and find a letter box.

My prediction: White House will be bothered by about 500 postcards, a few giggles will be had, no Presidential Tweet will ridicule the event as it is too pathetic even for Donald.
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How much tweeting did Trump do about Pussy Hat Day?
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It's just a protest. The more vocal the anti-Trump crowd is, the more likely the 2018 election has of shifting Congress. Make yourself known, make yourself heard.

Everyday the news is saturated with Trump's antics and the endless debate about his Tweets, Spicer's hour long commercial and now GOP press conferences berating the ACA and pretending they have a better option.

Flood the White House with enough postcards all at once and at least we'll get 15 minutes of fame.

There's nothing here that promotes anything violent.
Election after election your side continues to lose, this time around you lost a large percentage of your base because you didn't want them anymore. Now you're going to protest more thinking this somehow will swell your numbers. You have so many seats to defend in 18 it's laughable to think you'll gain. Instead of moderating and working with this president, you go farther to the left thinking somehow that will help you win.

All you're doing is galvanizing people in the middle and on the right who are in the process of taking their country back from the loser lazy despicable left.
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Keep in mind that when you're talking about seats to defend, those voters elected them once. Working with an unpopular president, loathed by your base does not seem to be a recipe for success.
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Originally Posted by willim View Post
What a joke. The only thing missing is the claim that they have "2814 Architects and Engineers" on their side.

People can waste their time and money on sending postcards till the cows come home, and come morning, Trump will still be the President.

Folks need to get over it, and get on with their lives. Don't like him? Then vote him the hell out of office come next election.
That's why postcards aren't a good idea. The Hair hates ridicule when he's mocked he gets stupid and takes to Twitter. When he tweets Senate Republicans distance themselves. A thousand tinfoil hates would inflict more psychological trauma than a million postcards.
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Though this particular protest is a rubbish idea, much of the reason for doing stuff like this is to build networks of activists to facilitate booting Republicans out of office next election. The Tea Party movement has already been mentioned as an example of the right doing something similar when they were out of power.
More cargo-cult activism. The Tea Party got organized. The Tea Party engaged in jackass postal stunts. Therefore, if we engage in jackass postal stunts, we'll get organized too!

It's not clear that mailing tea bags had any causal relationship to articulating platforms, finding candidates, and electing them to office.

Getting organized for the mid-terms is going mean finding districts that could have voted blue in 2016 but didn't, reaching out to those voters, and convincing them to vote blue in 2018. Sending an asston of witty postcards to the White House is probably not going to have much to do with that effort. What's your vision of how this kind of Facebook drive is going to "build networks of activists" for that purpose?

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That's why postcards aren't a good idea. The Hair hates ridicule when he's mocked he gets stupid and takes to Twitter. When he tweets Senate Republicans distance themselves. A thousand tinfoil hates would inflict more psychological trauma than a million postcards.
As long as Senate Republicans continue to distance themselves from Trump's crazier outbursts, their seats are probably safe. Triggering Trump through ridicule thus seems likely to be a waste of time and effort, in terms of getting organized for the mid-terms.
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I think you might be overly optimistic concerning the number of students actually exposed to it in any meaningful way, but leaving that aside there is also the problem of how many of those few managed to retain anything about it.
If true. very sad. And I suspect in reality it is!!! I enjoyed much of the reading stuff in school and also had fun doing Mad Libs things to it in the book. Also captioning pictures as in Captions Courageous form and adding Martian war machines to pictures (the tripods, not the Pal flyers/AG field ones). Unfortunately, the only one of all those I remember well was a line from Silas Marner : Silas sat up in his bed eating his Christmas meat . All I did was add the letter b to the beginning of one of those words!
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What's your vision of how this kind of Facebook drive is going to "build networks of activists" for that purpose?
It won't really - that's part of what makes it a rubbish idea. Going through the website promoting this, the one really good part of the plan is the hosting of postcard-writing parties in physical locations. People willing to put forth the minimal effort to physically turn up at an event are often the ones who might be willing to do real work in a political movement. The people organizing this campaign are probably not going to be particularly useful in defeating Republicans in elections, but some of the people who meet each other at these parties might be.
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As long as Senate Republicans continue to distance themselves from Trump's crazier outbursts, their seats are probably safe. Triggering Trump through ridicule thus seems likely to be a waste of time and effort, in terms of getting organized for the mid-terms.
One shouldn't be affiliated with the other. Organizing for midterms and efforts to ridicule and provoke the crazy in Trump should be parallel lines of effort.
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Am I the only one wondering if this is some sort of spoof? I mean, the Ides of March thing is wince-worthy, and the notion that postcards can bring down Trump does seem just a tad fanciful.

On the other hand, as I have observed often in the past, the party out of power goes insane, while the party in power grows arrogant. They seem to have pinned the meter on both sides this time around.

Gotta keep the money rolling in. This is only one of many such postcard campaigns (fighting harassment by harassing someone). Sounds like a publicity stunt for themselves.

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We will supply the postcard writing materials, you bring your sharpest wits! We will be holding a small raffle to cover stamp costs, and all other proceeds will go to Hollaback!.
Really, people can't bring a 50 cent stamp. Hmmmm.

"Hollaback! accepts donations and sells merchandise ("FeministApparel.com") on their website.

$30 for a tanktop? Maybe they're legit, but the first thing I thought of when I saw their site is "who is being paid?" Reminds me of a church - recruit members, bring in cash so we can do the lawds work! If it wasn't such a dumb idea I'd give it more credit.

https://www.ihollaback.org/

http://www.feministapparel.com/colle...ainst-catcalls
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Right!? I mean it's not like the organizers chose the date of one of the most infamous assassinations in history, or have images of the coin minted by the assassin shortly thereafter on multiple places on the website. Only a conspiracy theory prone individual would jump to wild conclusions.
Postcards instead of daggers. It makes all the difference.

For the record, I thought Sara Palin's crosshairs were overblown too. It's just a metaphor, folks.
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Huh. I now have in my head an image of Trump being surrounded by senators wielding knives.

Et tu, Bannon?
That would be awesome. Maybe "Et tu, Ivanka?" or "Et tu, Tiffany?"
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That would be awesome. Maybe "Et tu, Ivanka?" or "Et tu, Tiffany?"
The turnaround comes with Kellyanne's funeral speech.

"Friends, winners, dealmakers, lend me your ears!
I come to bury Donald, not to praise him
The bad deals men make live after them
The good are oft interred with their bones
So let it be with Donald! The noble Bannon
Hath told you Donald was ambitious
If so, it were a tremendous fault
And tremendously hath Donald answer'd it
Here, under leave of Bannon and the rest -
For Bannon is an honourable man
So are they all, all honourable men -
Come I to speak at Donald's funeral
He was my boss, faithful and just to me
But Bannon says Donald was ambitious
And Bannon is an honourable man
He hath grabbed many pussies in the States
Whose lawsuits did the lawyer's pockets fill
Did this in Donald seem ambitious,
When that the losers cried, Donald hath scoffed?
Ambition should be made of smarter stuff
But Bannon says Donald was ambitious
And Bannon is an honourable man
You all did see on Fox & Friends
I thrice defended his obnoxious tweets
While thrice he doubled down, was this ambition?
But Bannon says Donald was ambitious
And sure, he is an honourable man
I speak not to disprove what Bannon spoke
But only to give alternative facts
You all did see him give you great healthcare
What cause withholds you then to mourn for him?
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Bear with me! My brand is in the coffin there with Donald
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As long as Senate Republicans continue to distance themselves from Trump's crazier outbursts, their seats are probably safe. Triggering Trump through ridicule thus seems likely to be a waste of time and effort, in terms of getting organized for the mid-terms.
Sooner or later (more likely later - e.g. around 2020, not 2018), the ploy is going to backfire. "Oh, my! Did you hear what that horrible man did/said? Now, me? I'm a bona fide conservative and don't have any of that hatred or meanness in me, no sir. So vote for me and I'll help keep the Orange Fungus in check. Gotta go. I have an appointment with the Secretary of Segregation and Jew-Baiting to see if we can get funding for a new idea we call Separate But Equal. You'll love it!"
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Pfft... beware the ides of march, my son, the jaws that bite, the claws that catch. beware the jubjub bird and shun the frumious bandersnatch.
Actually that sounds like it would be right up Trump's alley.
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That's why postcards aren't a good idea. The Hair hates ridicule when he's mocked he gets stupid and takes to Twitter. When he tweets Senate Republicans distance themselves. A thousand tinfoil hates would inflict more psychological trauma than a million postcards.
Not a bad thought, tinfoil hats would be useful for preventing spying via Microwave.
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Old 14th March 2017, 11:18 PM   #74
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Originally Posted by Distracted1 View Post
Not a bad thought, tinfoil hats would be useful for preventing spying via Microwave.
Ya think? Ever put tin foil in your microwave? If Obama is really beaming microwaves into your kitchen, foil helmets might be a good way to save on haircuts for seventeen or eighteen months but not much else.
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Old 15th March 2017, 03:33 AM   #75
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Tinfoil might help Rachel Maddow at this point
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Were any postcards sent last week?
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Old 20th March 2017, 03:26 PM   #77
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Originally Posted by Spindrift View Post
Were any postcards sent last week?

Didn't you get mine?
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Old 24th March 2017, 11:44 AM   #78
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Social media says yes, the White House is mum. I sent in 10.

My "Ides of Trump" postcards By RoyalScribe

The Ides of Trump: 4,000-plus postcards written at event hosted by Palo Alto woman

President Trump might get a blizzard of postcards soon
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Caroline Bays (center) was among those penning postcards to President Trump last week at First Parish Watertown, a Unitarian-Universalist congregation.

Did the Ides of Trump Hit a Million - Organizer Zack Kushner Estimates It Did

And so on.

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Social media says yes, the White House is mum. I sent in 10.
Did you go to one of the writing parties? If so, what was it like?
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Did you go to one of the writing parties? If so, what was it like?
No, I had a ton of postcards already and sent 10 of them in.
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