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I want you guys to keep posting as much as you can. I am so looking forward to you trying to explain away the non-appearance of any product (Mills is too devoted to perfection' etc.) and 'BLP' going 'cold' for a period of time before emerging yet again with another name and yet another pronouncement that they are 'just about' to change the world, have contracts in place, etc., etc. - you know the drill.
Then you can pronounce your faith in Mills - once again - renew all the other excuses, in other words pretend it all going to come out right in the end. The finest type of unintended comedy too bad its played out so you can help a guy scam others for money. |
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Well, there's the answer that a few Mills shills have brought up ("why, if he's a fraud, hasn't anyone sued him or gone to the authorities for fraud?") — the answer is that they're told ahead of time that they won't get their money back and that they're basically just donating it to him.
That makes the scam even better and it saddens me further that scum like Mills are getting away with it. That money that these wealthy idiots hand out could be going for much more useful things after all. But, a fool — even a rich fool — and his money are soon parted. So there's that. |
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Me: So what you're saying is that, if the load carrying ability of the lower structure is reduced to the point where it can no longer support the load above it, it will collapse without a jolt, right? Tony Szamboti: That is right |
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You are wrong about what an accredited investor is under the law. The term is far broader than you claim. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accredited_investor Do you have any retirement savings? There are several ways those funds could end up vaporized in an "accredited investors only" organization. |
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Any sign of the revolution?
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Weren't we at the stage of generators being sent out to 3rd parties?
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Even if this were real, the timeline that they set was hopelessly optimistic. It didn't allow for any unforeseen problems in developing a totally new technology based on unproven science, where they haven't even been able to demonstrate a sustainable reaction yet. (I assume that the tight schedule was meant to give potential investors a sense of urgency.)
They were not even promising that things would be different this time around because they have cleansed their site to eliminate any mention that they have tried and failed to produce a product many times already. Once they reveal the scenario to be used to close out this cycle it will all be over...until next time. |
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#2577 |
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It's a shame Sovereign Citizens don't typically have enough money for Mills and Co. to go after them as potential investors. I'd love to see the shenanigans of a Sovereign Citizen group, tired of endless promises and delays, deciding they "own" the BLP lab and occupying it though their more robust tactics.
We'd then see the catastrophe that would result from the occupying Sovereign Citizens trying to fire up the "reactors" and "generators." |
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#2578 |
Official Ponylandistanian National Treasure. Respect it!
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I think some here are trying to match what they see as the fantastical claims of Mills, with their own fantastical scenarios. Makes for amusing reading anyway. Looks like the wait for a working prototype is going to be longer in coming, such that even my estimate may be too short. If I understand a recent post of Dr. Mills correctly it appears that BLP is going to be patenting a more effective method to generate electricity from heat . We'll see. As they say, 'the better is the enemy of the good enough.' Somewhat off topic: I tried unsubscribing from this thread two weeks ago, since I don't need to be reminded about the thread, and I prefer to read the posts on site. Although I have tried twice to unsubscribe, I am still receiving a daily email. Anyone else experience this? Is this like the Hotel California? |
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Sounds like a variant of the #1 wrap-up scenario:
So the introduction of world changing technology is again delayed due to aspects of design unrelated to the supposed hydrino reaction. Doesn't that seem a bit odd? There are a huge number of applications where just having the heat output would be enough. It's too bad that the investors will again have to wait for their big payday. |
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Maybe they've finally received those heat exchangers they were waiting for a decade ago...
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Perhaps his uses frictionalless bearings in the turbines using the antigravity compounds he discovered over 20 years ago?
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#2587 |
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Aaaaaaaany day now, infidels, any day now.
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#2589 |
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Having invented a new form of steel than will revolutionize the railroad industry, Mills will now pause to reinvent the wheel?
John Galt didn't need the steam locomotive--that he could leave to others. All he needed was the steel. If Mills had the hydrino, any old heat engine would do. If he's working on a heat engine, it can only mean he doesn't have the hydrino. And that he's an idiot. Heat engine development is a well understood and saturated field. Does Mills really expect us to believe his time is best spent on such work? To believe he'll improve upon the work of General Electric? The work of General Dynamics? Of BAE, of Siemens, of Komatsu Ltd? This signature is intended to irradiate people. |
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#2591 |
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Maybe he's invented a wheel that's rounder than a circle.
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#2592 |
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I'll just copy the post by Dr. Mills from July 15:
We are working on a way of directly getting to essentially the end of the converter engineering program at much higher conversion efficiency and lower cost than initially planned. We will likely post an update once I have filed a few more patent applications and we do some further engineering and testing.
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OK thanks, I just tried the Unsubscribe option from the Tools menu near the top of the page. I'll see if that works. What doesn't seem to work is unsubscribing via the link at the bottom of the emails. |
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I suspect the high temperatures involved make even the higher heat engine technologies much less than optimal. One size does not fit all. Also, although it seems likely the heat will be converted to mechanical energy and then to electrical, that was not explicitly stated by Mills. He may have something different in mind. |
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You know, speaking as a physicist, I find this all to be comedy gold. If I were also an economist, of course, I'd probably find it even funnier that somebody who claims to have an essentially unlimited source of essentially free energy is choosing not to derive profit from it yet because he feels that the conversion efficiency of that unlimited energy source is not as high as it could be.
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The temperature do not make a lick of difference as far as I remember, what is important is the heat exchange tech, which is such a case would use a primary with a liquid metal and a secondary circuit with water/steam. You would have some losses, but this is a solved problem as far as I can tell.
"Having something different in mind" == being allowed to waffle more year by gullible without any results. |
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I suspect that what they're really working on is a more refined method of converting bald claims into cash.
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That's BS and you know it markie. All it takes is a bigger boiler. (assuming that he really were producing that much energy, which he isn't) In fact I guarantee you that the steam engines run off nuclear carriers would easily be capable of handling all the energy Mills claims he is producing with hydrinos.
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One of my grandfathers was an engineer. Before he retired 30 years ago he was refining the liquid sodium phase of the cooling system for an experimental fusion reactor. The heat exchange systems needed for the temperatures Mills is claiming have been around and quite reliable for decades. The tech he's claiming he needs to develop is literally older than his Hydrino theory. Your suspicion is pure, ignorant nonsense. Mills is either lying, hoping the people he's lying to are too ignorant to see though his lies, or he is literally 30 to 40 years behind modern technology in his knowledge of what he needs to interface with. Either way, nothing profitable is coming out of Hydrino theory with Mills at the helm. |
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