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Old 4th July 2017, 08:46 PM   #201
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I guess the idea of getting doxxed isn't as amusing when someone finds themselves in the crosshairs.
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Old 4th July 2017, 08:50 PM   #202
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If CNN can find the guy, others can, too.
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Old 4th July 2017, 09:04 PM   #203
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If he does get doxxed, he's about to learn the downside of trolling through use of particularly vile hot button material. In this case, other than the CNN/WWE vid, I guess it was mostly racist (I'm not familiar with the postings).

Some non-racists will accept his apology... many will not.

Some racists though will decry him for selling out... many others will continue to claim him, perhaps tainting his real name going forward.

Is he sincere? Is he not?
Either way... his name, among at least some group he'd like to keep friendly with, is now Mudd.

Well done dude... well done.
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Old 4th July 2017, 09:19 PM   #204
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NPR tweets the Declaration of Independence on Independence Day; oblivious Trump supporters incensed by perceived attack on Trump
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Old 4th July 2017, 09:37 PM   #205
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Originally Posted by Molinaro View Post
Obama was called the divider. He was constantly accused of being the source of division in the US. And here we have Trump who has made dividing the country his #1 priority.

And yet, the most hypocritical group of people in the world, the GOP supporters, will of course have nothing to say about it.
You are correct. Obama gave speeches and made comments about everyone coming together, accepting all people of all religions and ethnicity, that we're all in this. He was called a divider by the right-wing.

Trump talks about everyone but white christians as less than, but the right-wing is quiet about the divisiveness of Trump.
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Only a left-wing radical would know about the Declaration of Independence.
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Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
Trump supporters do not like the idea of America, this is evidence of it.
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Old 4th July 2017, 09:42 PM   #208
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
You are correct. Obama gave speeches and made comments about everyone coming together, accepting all people of all religions and ethnicity, that we're all in this. He was called a divider by the right-wing.

Trump talks about everyone but white christians as less than, but the right-wing is quiet about the divisiveness of Trump.

"Divisiveness"? What the hell you been smoking?

Large numbers of them have loudly and repeatedly stated that Trump has and is continuing to bring the country together.

Didn't you get the memo?

(Perhaps they mean factions of the GOPers were divided over just how evil Obama was, and now that strife is ended. )
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Old 4th July 2017, 09:53 PM   #209
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Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
"Divisiveness"? What the hell you been smoking?

Large numbers of them have loudly and repeatedly stated that Trump has and is continuing to bring the country together.

Didn't you get the memo?

(Perhaps they mean factions of the GOPers were divided over just how evil Obama was, and now that strife is ended. )
In a way, Trump has united much of the country..........against the minority of people that support him.
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
In a way, Trump has united much of the country..........against the minority of people that support him.



LOL... yes he has.
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Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
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Large numbers of them have loudly and repeatedly stated that Trump has and is continuing to bring the country together.
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You might have something there because it seems that Trump has been working on uniting people across the country. Check it out.

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Cities join call for impeachment

Congress may not be ready to launch impeachment proceedings against Donald Trump, but a growing number of cities and towns are trying to push members in that direction.

Brookline, Mass., became the 10th and latest local government Thursday to pass a resolution calling for impeachment, a step designed to add pressure on the state’s congressmen to launch a formal investigation that could ultimately lead to the president’s removal from office.

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Marches across U.S. cities call for Trump's impeachment

LOS ANGELES -- Protesters gathered Sunday in cities across the U.S. calling for the impeachment of President Trump.

Thousands gathered Sunday in downtown Los Angeles as protesters marched from Pershing Square to Fletcher-Bowron Square in an effort to urge Congress to impeach the president, CBS Los Angeles reports.

The march was one of 45 sister marches in cities across the nation including New Orleans, Seattle, Philadelphia and New York City.

In Manhattan, protesters chanted outside Trump International Hotel and Tower at Columbus Circle and Central Park West, CBS New York reports.

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Old 5th July 2017, 12:27 AM   #212
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Utterly disagree, he hasn't a clue, his approach takes no intelligence at all. If you want to see his rank stupidity in action find the clip of when he worked his way up to saying Obama founded ISIS. You will see all he was doing was reacting to the crowd feedback until even his crowd realised he was being stupid. In concluding Trump is intelligent you are really using the Texas sharpshooter fallacy. Yes some of what he throws out sticks with his supporters but many interviews with his supporters show they actually credit him with many things he hasn't said or done. During the election I said he was the Rorschach test candidate, he's now the Rorschach test President people read into his many incoherent sentences what they want.
Saying "he isn't dumb" doesn't mean he's particularly smart either. He's smart enough to know he doesn't need to do more than he's already doing, watch TV and rant about it. He has about 40% of the electorate on his side who won't abandon him easily. He gets what he wants - mostly people cheering him - with minimal effort. That's many things, but it's not dumb. Dumb is assuming he's dumb because he's not doing a better job as a president, but that was never his goal - his goal was to be the most powerful and most important man on Earth, cheered by crowds, with the national anthem playing in his honor and his picture hanging in public offices and school and so on. Near as I can tell he achieved his goal perfectly. And he didn't even have to study or work particularly hard for it.

He gets what he wants with almost no effort. You can't call that dumb. Two in five Americans support him in his quest to be cheered at, which should be plenty to see him through his first term.

His followers who can't see through him are dumb, down to the last one. The only support for him that isn't dumb is exposing the cancerous parts of the Republican party that pander to the retard vote. He's quite good in this regard, a sort of chemotherapy if you will.

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Old 5th July 2017, 01:38 AM   #213
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Now, why am I not surprised?!

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44 out of 50 states have declined to provide data to President Trump’s voter fraud commission

Forty-four states have refused to supply varying degrees of voter information requested last week by Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, vice chair of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, CNN reported.

Kobach’s commission — launched in the wake of Trump’s debunked claims that widespread voter fraud lost him the 2016 election’s popular vote — said it wants “publicly available” state-level data in order to “fully analyze vulnerabilities and issues related to voter registration and voting.”

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Old 5th July 2017, 01:44 AM   #214
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Saying "he isn't dumb" doesn't mean he's particularly smart either. He's smart enough to know he doesn't need to do more than he's already doing, watch TV and rant about it. He has about 40% of the electorate on his side who won't abandon him easily. He gets what he wants - mostly people cheering him - with minimal effort. That's many things, but it's not dumb. Dumb is assuming he's dumb because he's not doing a better job as a president, but that was never his goal - his goal was to be the most powerful and most important man on Earth, cheered by crowds, with the national anthem playing in his honor and his picture hanging in public offices and school and so on. Near as I can tell he achieved his goal perfectly. And he didn't even have to study or work particularly hard for it.

He gets what he wants with almost no effort. You can't call that dumb. Two in five Americans support him in his quest to be cheered at, which should be plenty to see him through his first term.

His followers who can't see through him are dumb, down to the last one. The only support for him that isn't dumb is exposing the cancerous parts of the Republican party that pander to the retard vote. He's quite good in this regard, a sort of chemotherapy if you will.

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That depends on why and how he gets what he wants. His history is that he gets what he wants simply because he was born very privileged and inherited a lot of capital. The dumbest person can say "I want...".
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That's not what will kill him because his support is not about policy. I think only two things have the potential to make GOPers turn on him:

1) a military blunder. Americans killed for no reason. We get dragged back into the Middle East where nobody wants to go.
But that takes years to get them to realize that, it plays well for the first few, look at Iraq.
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Trump's 4,000 men "surge" in Afghanistan is certain to cost US lives. But given the lack of public interest, I doubt it will cost him votes.
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That depends on why and how he gets what he wants. His history is that he gets what he wants simply because he was born very privileged and inherited a lot of capital. The dumbest person can say "I want...".
Winning the presidential election in the US requires quite a bit more than just "a lot of capital", as Hillary found out to her (and our) determent. He was also capable enough to expand his substantial inheritance into true wealth, rather than just blowing it away as your would expect an actually stupid person to do.

Trump is many things that should disqualify him from office, but stupid isn't among them. I'd put him at around average overall intelligence, above average in some ways, below average in others. You don't call a person like that "stupid".

To put it another way, he already proved he's smarter than 40% of US electorate (i.e. anyone who supports him), this alone puts him at average.

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Trump's 4,000 men "surge" in Afghanistan is certain to cost US lives. But given the lack of public interest, I doubt it will cost him votes.
Not really, he already poisoned both wells of how this could hurt him. If US forces get killed in action, then he will blame Obama for not doing more during his eight years in power, leaving the mess to him. If US suffers terrorist attacks he will blame the judges for blocking his travel bans. His followers will cheer for him even more and won't care if it's pointed out to them repeatedly the terrorist was homegrown and wouldn't be affected by the ban anyway.

If nothing of the sort happens he will take credit for any victories the mini surge will produce. In other words, he wins either way.

Darat, that's not a behavior of a stupid person. Sinister and evil certainly, but not stupid.

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Trump is many things that should disqualify him from office, but stupid isn't among them.
If he's not stupid, then he has a condition that makes him talk like a stupid person.

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That's depressing, then.
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This week it all comes to a head. Qatar, North Korea, the G20 summit, the Trump/Putin meeting (that handshake is gonna be epic!), and other stuff I'd made mental notes about but can't recall right now.

I'm going to be at a 24/7 weekend event and it will be tough not to tune in to the news on my phone every hour or so.
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This week it all comes to a head. Qatar, North Korea, the G20 summit, the Trump/Putin meeting (that handshake is gonna be epic!), and other stuff I'd made mental notes about but can't recall right now.

I'm going to be at a 24/7 weekend event and it will be tough not to tune in to the news on my phone every hour or so.
Sounds tiring, think he will start using the golf cart inside the white house?
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If he's not stupid, then he has a condition that makes him talk like a stupid person.
Oh sure, he's an ignorant narcissist, which makes him sound dumb.

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That's depressing, then.
It sure is, but I'm afraid I can prove it beyond reasonable doubt. It's not a stretch to say that just about anyone who still thinks he's doing a good job is stupider than him and 40% of electorate approve of his job performance.

Average intelligence is defined as the middle 68% of test takers (1SD from mean), 16% are above average (and above to genius and beyond) and 16% are below average (stupid to retarded all the way down). Even if half of his remaining supporters support him for reasons other than doing a good job ("He's destroying the Republican party, whoohoo, I'll get elected for sure!") he's still well in average segment.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/ (recovered July 5th, 2017).

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If he's not stupid, then he has a condition that makes him talk like a stupid person.
There was a Radiolab episode that took a look at people's vocabularies where they tracked the gradual decrease in vocabulary and related it to the onset of Alzheimer's. I believe it was done with nuns, but it's been a long time.

Of course, one may consciously "dumb down" one's vocabulary in an attempt to appeal to the common man. Intentionally avoiding big words, let's say.

To repeat, I found his speaking spontaneously on "space" to be shocking in its vapidness. There really may be something wrong with the man - it would explain so much.

edited to add: The podcast was from 2010 and titled "Vanishing Words". Worth a listen.

http://www.radiolab.org/story/91960-vanishing-words/
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There was a Radiolab episode that took a look at people's vocabularies where they tracked the gradual decrease in vocabulary and related it to the onset of Alzheimer's. I believe it was done with nuns, but it's been a long time.

Of course, one may consciously "dumb down" one's vocabulary in an attempt to appeal to the common man. Intentionally avoiding big words, let's say.

To repeat, I found his speaking spontaneously on "space" to be shocking in its vapidness. There really may be something wrong with the man - it would explain so much.

edited to add: The podcast was from 2010 and titled "Vanishing Words". Worth a listen.

http://www.radiolab.org/story/91960-vanishing-words/
I doubt it's a medical condition. He's just a man of regular intelligence who never red much. A bad choice for a president, sure, but don't get your hopes up about it being caused by a medical condition which could be used in judgment of 25th amendment or something similar.

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Trump is 71 years old, doesn't exercise and eats badly. Even when ignoring his family's history of Alzheimer's, he's at higher risk of dementia than average Americans his age.
It would be almost surprising if his mental faculties hadn't degenerated over time.
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Trump is 71 years old, doesn't exercise and eats badly. Even when ignoring his family's history of Alzheimer's, he's at higher risk of dementia than average Americans his age.
It would be almost surprising if his mental faculties hadn't degenerated over time.
Don't conflate the two, degeneration of mental faculties at that age is a normal process. It could also be a symptom of Alzheimers' of course. If so shall become apparent before his reelection campaign, if he ever gets that far.

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Don't conflate the two, degeneration of mental faculties at that age is a normal process. It could also be a symptom of Alzheimers' of course. If so shall become apparent before his reelection campaign, if he ever gets that far.

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that's what I meant: either is a possibility, and Trump's rambling would, in another family, have already prompted his children to have some test run by doctors, just for his sake.
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There was a Radiolab episode that took a look at people's vocabularies where they tracked the gradual decrease in vocabulary and related it to the onset of Alzheimer's. I believe it was done with nuns, but it's been a long time.

Of course, one may consciously "dumb down" one's vocabulary in an attempt to appeal to the common man. Intentionally avoiding big words, let's say.

To repeat, I found his speaking spontaneously on "space" to be shocking in its vapidness. There really may be something wrong with the man - it would explain so much.

edited to add: The podcast was from 2010 and titled "Vanishing Words". Worth a listen.

http://www.radiolab.org/story/91960-vanishing-words/
There's been a study on the degradation in Trump's speech.

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Trump fluently peppered his answers with words and phrases such as “subsided,” “inclination,” “discredited,” “sparring session,” and “a certain innate intelligence.” He tossed off well-turned sentences such as, “It could have been a contentious route,” and, “These are the only casinos in the United States that are so rated.” He even offered thoughtful, articulate aphorisms: “If you get into what’s missing, you don’t appreciate what you have,” and, “Adversity is a very funny thing.”

Now, Trump’s vocabulary is simpler. He repeats himself over and over, and lurches from one subject to an unrelated one, as in this answer during an interview with the Associated Press last month:

“People want the border wall. My base definitely wants the border wall, my base really wants it — you’ve been to many of the rallies. OK, the thing they want more than anything is the wall. My base, which is a big base; I think my base is 45 percent. You know, it’s funny. The Democrats, they have a big advantage in the Electoral College. Big, big, big advantage. … The Electoral College is very difficult for a Republican to win, and I will tell you, the people want to see it. They want to see the wall.”

For decades, studies have found that deterioration in the fluency, complexity, and vocabulary level of spontaneous speech can indicate slipping brain function due to*normal aging or neurodegenerative disease. STAT and the experts therefore considered only unscripted utterances, not planned speeches and statements, since only the former tap the neural*networks that offer a window into brain function.
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The broflakes are triggered by the most banal things.
NPR has been been doing this every independence day for a long time.

It's telling that Trump supporters associate tyranny and being unfit to serve with their cult leader.

The special snowflakes doth protest too much.
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That degradation could simply be him trying to construct a message that doesn't come across as high falutin' or elitist to his supporters. If you want to be seen as a man of the people, you don't want to be scattering around ten dollar words like confetti.
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That degradation could simply be him trying to construct a message that doesn't come across as high falutin' or elitist to his supporters. If you want to be seen as a man of the people, you don't want to be scattering around ten dollar words like confetti.
That seems a bit far fetched. He used to be able to answer questions off the cuff in complete sentences and staying on one topic. He doesn't do that anymore and that seems unlikely to be a positive with his supporters.
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That seems a bit far fetched. He used to be able to answer questions off the cuff in complete sentences and staying on one topic. He doesn't do that anymore and that seems unlikely to be a positive with his supporters.
I think it's a positive. I mean, it could be a positive. I'm a very positive guy, and people keep telling me I'm very positive. So it could be a positive. No one thought I could win the election, but we did, and by the biggest margin of any election ever. Biggest inaugural crowd, they say. It was amazing. Just amazing!
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I think it's a positive. I mean, it could be a positive. I'm a very positive guy, and people keep telling me I'm very positive. So it could be a positive. No one thought I could win the election, but we did, and by the biggest margin of any election ever. Biggest inaugural crowd, they say. It was amazing. Just amazing!
Try to match the no drama administration while you're at it.

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I think the Lyme Disease angle is a red herring, but George Bush seemed to degrade in front of our eyes as well:

https://youtu.be/GpKCoPx9108
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Don't conflate the two, degeneration of mental faculties at that age is a normal process. It could also be a symptom of Alzheimers' of course. If so shall become apparent before his reelection campaign, if he ever gets that far.

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That seems a bit far fetched. He used to be able to answer questions off the cuff in complete sentences and staying on one topic. He doesn't do that anymore and that seems unlikely to be a positive with his supporters.
He also probably used to be able to find his own limo when it was right in front of him.
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Wow.
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Unbelievable.
Was he looking for a cab?
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Try to match the no drama administration while you're at it.

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Your link seems to think that hotlinking is bad, Stacko.
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