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Old 4th October 2019, 11:44 AM   #81
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ANd the Klan swiped another one of it's symbols, the burning cross, from the Scottish tradition of using a Burning Cross to indicate danger and summon the Clan member to the defense of their Clan.
Like the Swastika it's another symbol corrupted beyond salvage. Ever since the early Sixties, the Scottish Games in the US stopped the custom of burning a cross the final evening of the games because it had become too corrupted and would be misunderstood.
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Old 5th October 2019, 07:44 AM   #82
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
ANd the Klan swiped another one of it's symbols, the burning cross, from the Scottish tradition of using a Burning Cross to indicate danger and summon the Clan member to the defense of their Clan.
Like the Swastika it's another symbol corrupted beyond salvage. Ever since the early Sixties, the Scottish Games in the US stopped the custom of burning a cross the final evening of the games because it had become too corrupted and would be misunderstood.
But one could burn a cross and wave a Confederate battle flag and be technically correct. 🙃
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Old 6th October 2019, 06:27 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
ANd the Klan swiped another one of it's symbols, the burning cross, from the Scottish tradition of using a Burning Cross to indicate danger and summon the Clan member to the defense of their Clan.
Like the Swastika it's another symbol corrupted beyond salvage. Ever since the early Sixties, the Scottish Games in the US stopped the custom of burning a cross the final evening of the games because it had become too corrupted and would be misunderstood.
The Klan didn't start burning the cross until the showing "Birth of a Nation".
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Old 7th October 2019, 02:04 AM   #84
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Last night, I watched Smokey and the Bandit for the first time in years. Bandit's Trans-Am had a confederate flag on the front. No one minded.
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Old 7th October 2019, 03:14 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by Ian Osborne View Post
Last night, I watched Smokey and the Bandit for the first time in years. Bandit's Trans-Am had a confederate flag on the front. No one minded.
No one felt in a position to complain. Saying no one minded is rather like how people talk about how black people loved jim crow because they were not complaining to them.
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Originally Posted by Ian Osborne View Post
Last night, I watched Smokey and the Bandit for the first time in years. Bandit's Trans-Am had a confederate flag on the front. No one minded.
Wow. You just solved racism.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Wow. You just solved racism.
And sexism, I mean in the old days secretaries knew to take a pat on the butt for the compliment it was, now you hear all about sexual harassment.
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Old 7th October 2019, 05:44 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by Ian Osborne View Post
Last night, I watched Smokey and the Bandit for the first time in years. Bandit's Trans-Am had a confederate flag on the front. No one minded.
That's the Georgia state flag, and the veneration of the confederacy is something that plenty of people did "mind" and was deliberate.
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Again as I have to point out everytime we have the discussion and the Confederate Flag defenders role out the exact same verbatim apologetics; displaying of the Confederate Flag wasn't all that popular after the Civil War, even with major Confederate leaders speaking out against displaying it. From that point until late 1940s or so displays of the Confederate Flag (setting aside all the "Which flag is actually the Confederate Flag?" side debates) was sporadic at best.

The current displaying of the Confederate Flag in its current context specifically came back into vogue in the Civil Rights era as a way to intimidate African Americans.
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It just needs a little tweaking...
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Old 7th October 2019, 06:17 AM   #91
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Again as I have to point out everytime we have the discussion and the Confederate Flag defenders role out the exact same verbatim apologetics; displaying of the Confederate Flag wasn't all that popular after the Civil War, even with major Confederate leaders speaking out against displaying it. From that point until late 1940s or so displays of the Confederate Flag (setting aside all the "Which flag is actually the Confederate Flag?" side debates) was sporadic at best.

The current displaying of the Confederate Flag in its current context specifically came back into vogue in the Civil Rights era as a way to intimidate African Americans.
Doesn't the KKK deserve some credit for bringing the confederate flag back into vogue?
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Doesn't the KKK deserve some credit for bringing the confederate flag back into vogue?
Some. But honestly the Dixiecrats were the single biggest offender, running on a explicitly and non-apologetically racist platform and using the flag as their primary campaign image.
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Old 7th October 2019, 06:25 AM   #93
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Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
It just needs a little tweaking...
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...pictureid=9934
Way too jazzy. I can't see that without imagining it spinning around with sparklers on the ends.
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