North Tower: southwest corner flash 20 minutes before collapse - Page 3

pgimeno · 5th December 2018, 09:02 AM

Flashes of light don't create physical deformation.(*)

(*) Well, they can, but not for any practical purposes possibly applicable to this case.

beachnut · 5th December 2018, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by MicahJava

Did the physical deformation create the flash of light, or did the flash of light create the physical deformation?

light creates the flash of light - looks like the sun is guilty

kayle · 5th December 2018, 12:52 PM

could it have been tourists taking photos?

Dave Rogers · 6th December 2018, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by beachnut

light creates the flash of light - looks like the sun is guilty

Well, I suppose that's one kind of energy beam from space.

Dave

Hellbound · 6th December 2018, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Dave Rogers

Well, I suppose that's one kind of energy beam from space.

Dave

We are constantly being bombarded by radiation from space.

That's why I wear a hat.

Contrary to popular belief, the tin foil is optional

Myriad · 6th December 2018, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Hellbound

We are constantly being bombarded by radiation from space.

That's why I wear a hat.

Contrary to popular belief, the tin foil is optional

But we're finally seeing real progress in fixing this. In the past five months there's been an over 60% reduction in space radiation bombardment in my area.

Dave Rogers · 6th December 2018, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Myriad

But we're finally seeing real progress in fixing this. In the past five months there's been an over 60% reduction in space radiation bombardment in my area.

Strangely, there are those who would argue, though in rather different accents, that it's getting that much worse.

Dave

CORed · 6th December 2018, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Hellbound

We are constantly being bombarded by radiation from space.

That's why I wear a hat.

Contrary to popular belief, the tin foil is optional

A baseball cap, cowboy hat, or anything else with bill or a brim will do the job, for real harmful radiation from space (I'm talking about solar UV that will cause sunburn, in case there's any doubt. It can be a serious problem for somebody as paleface as I am.)

Dave Rogers · 6th December 2018, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by MicahJava

Aaaand this thread single-handedly refuted Mick West's new video on the flashes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dzNW7Hcmhw

That's a truly idiotic conclusion to draw. Different flashes at different times and in different places are allowed to have been caused by different mechanisms. The ones this video refers to are clearly reflections off spinning pieces of debris. To suggest this is refuted by things that look different to this having different explanations is about the sort of inane nonsense that's been the staple diet of the truth movement for seventeen years.

Dave

5th December 2018, 09:02 AM	#81
pgimeno Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 3,358	Flashes of light don't create physical deformation.() () Well, they can, but not for any practical purposes possibly applicable to this case.
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5th December 2018, 12:47 PM	#82
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 25,095	Originally Posted by MicahJava Did the physical deformation create the flash of light, or did the flash of light create the physical deformation? light creates the flash of light - looks like the sun is guilty
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5th December 2018, 12:52 PM	#83
kayle Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 278	could it have been tourists taking photos?
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6th December 2018, 02:10 AM	#84
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 28,492	Originally Posted by beachnut light creates the flash of light - looks like the sun is guilty Well, I suppose that's one kind of energy beam from space. Dave
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6th December 2018, 07:56 AM	#86
Myriad Hyperthetical Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: A pocket paradise between the sewage treatment plant and the railroad Posts: 14,490	Originally Posted by Hellbound We are constantly being bombarded by radiation from space. That's why I wear a hat. Contrary to popular belief, the tin foil is optional But we're finally seeing real progress in fixing this. In the past five months there's been an over 60% reduction in space radiation bombardment in my area.
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6th December 2018, 06:55 AM	#85
Hellbound Merchant of Doom Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not in Hell, but I can see it from here on a clear day... Posts: 13,139	Originally Posted by Dave Rogers Well, I suppose that's one kind of energy beam from space. Dave We are constantly being bombarded by radiation from space. That's why I wear a hat. Contrary to popular belief, the tin foil is optional

6th December 2018, 08:18 AM	#87
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 28,492	Originally Posted by Myriad But we're finally seeing real progress in fixing this. In the past five months there's been an over 60% reduction in space radiation bombardment in my area. Strangely, there are those who would argue, though in rather different accents, that it's getting that much worse. Dave
	__________________ Me: So what you're saying is that, if the load carrying ability of the lower structure is reduced to the point where it can no longer support the load above it, it will collapse without a jolt, right? Tony Szamboti: That is right

6th December 2018, 12:58 PM	#88
CORed Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central City, Colorado, USA Posts: 8,486	Originally Posted by Hellbound We are constantly being bombarded by radiation from space. That's why I wear a hat. Contrary to popular belief, the tin foil is optional A baseball cap, cowboy hat, or anything else with bill or a brim will do the job, for real harmful radiation from space (I'm talking about solar UV that will cause sunburn, in case there's any doubt. It can be a serious problem for somebody as paleface as I am.)

6th December 2018, 05:05 PM	#89
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 28,492	Originally Posted by MicahJava Aaaand this thread single-handedly refuted Mick West's new video on the flashes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dzNW7Hcmhw That's a truly idiotic conclusion to draw. Different flashes at different times and in different places are allowed to have been caused by different mechanisms. The ones this video refers to are clearly reflections off spinning pieces of debris. To suggest this is refuted by things that look different to this having different explanations is about the sort of inane nonsense that's been the staple diet of the truth movement for seventeen years. Dave
	__________________ Me: So what you're saying is that, if the load carrying ability of the lower structure is reduced to the point where it can no longer support the load above it, it will collapse without a jolt, right? Tony Szamboti: That is right