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Old 14th November 2018, 10:10 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
Hang on, the statement was made via “her spokeswoman”?

She’s married to the President, couldn’t she just have a word with him? Or does she have to rely on making a statement to the press and hoping he’ll see it on Fox News?
That might be the wierdest aspect of this. Any other First Lady would have had a private word with her husband, and the offensive staffer would have been quietly moved to another job with an official statement of gratitude for her great service. This is hard to understand.
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Old 14th November 2018, 10:11 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by varwoche View Post



* She took his election victory proclamation seriously?

Trying to get in on his good side for post Brexit - I have the feeling that the Brits have F’d themselves in the A with Brexit and will need to keep the Dolt sweet.
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Wow, no tweets yet today, and it's been 20 hours since the last one. I fear something terrible is brewing.
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Originally Posted by Shalamar View Post
Nah. He's just upset because the right is supposed to have the copyright on misogyny.

Perhaps he's also put out that this is coming from one person, who does not represent 'the left'? I know I felt it was a wholly inappropriate statement.
This is kind of the new play for the righties. They want, no NEED to think that the left is "just as bad" as they are so they have to manufacture this faux outrage. Look at the butt hurt over the spray painting in the Carlson thread. Despite it being condemned by everyone, including the other people there, it's been labeled as coming from "the left" instead of one jackass.

TBD couldn't have come up with anything worse to say about Stormy. Now that a little bit of shade has been thrown at the Orange Menace's wife it's all pearl clutches and shock! WHY I NEVAH!

TBD actually had to bring a quote from another thread.
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Old 14th November 2018, 10:23 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
That might be the wierdest aspect of this. Any other First Lady would have had a private word with her husband, and the offensive staffer would have been quietly moved to another job with an official statement of gratitude for her great service. This is hard to understand.
I don't know why but I immediately thought of the Key and Peele "Obama translator" bit.
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A group of high profile conservative lawyers are organizing to push back* against Trump.

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* Relax TBD, no cause for alarm. This is a metaphorical push back.
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
Bolton is scary. However, do you think the next guy will be any better? The enemy you know....
Recent history suggests stupider but randomness suggests maybe not such a drastic warmongerer.
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I hope Bolton stays. If we can't get that reprehensible **** Miller out in the open, at least we have the warmonger-in-chief visible enough.
How is that helpful? Bolton's out there starting little war fires all over the world.
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TBD actually had to bring a quote from another thread.
Given it's a continuation, to be fair, it's the same thread. Also, it's pretty funny that he'd quote my terrible, mean comment and thus open Melania up for additional analysis, rather than just let it go and be lost in the shadows of time.

As for how accurate my terrible comment was, well, it's obviously 100%. She sold her body (and the more dramatic may say her soul) to an evil old whoremonger who sexually objectifies or criticizes all women, even his own flesh and blood. Her immigration status has been called into question in multiple ways that have so far gone unaddressed, and even if her immigration was all above board she'd still be an immigrant.

I have no issue with sex workers (though the business in general is hugely problematic), but Melania's version is pretty gross and she's proven herself to be a disgusting human being, so I wouldn't want to associate her with hard-working hookers and honorable prostitutes. Melania is a whore.

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Given it's a continuation, to be fair, it's the same thread. Also, it's pretty funny that he'd quote my terrible, mean comment and thus open Melania up for additional analysis, rather than just let it go and be lost in the shadows of time.

As for how accurate my terrible comment was, well, it's obviously 100%. She sold her body (and the more dramatic may say her soul) to an evil old whoremonger who sexually objectifies or criticizes all women, even his own flesh and blood. Her immigration status has been called into question in multiple ways that have so far gone unaddressed, and even if her immigration was all above board she'd still be an immigrant.

I have no issue with sex workers (though the business in general is hugely problematic), but Melania's version is pretty gross and she's proven herself to be a disgusting human being, so I wouldn't want to associate her with hard-working hookers and honorable prostitutes. Melania is a whore.
Ya see folks, I opened Melania up to an astounding continuation of blatantly misogynistic attacks.

Wow, there are no other words.
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Old 14th November 2018, 10:55 AM   #51
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What about the people who swallowed that it was actually a national security crisis? How do they rationalize that nary a syllable has been spoken since election day?



paging members X and Y to the red courtesy phone, you know who are
Trump solved the problem, of course, by sending the military and putting up rolls of barbed wire.
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Originally Posted by Babbylonian View Post
Given it's a continuation, to be fair, it's the same thread.
Duly noted and I have edited my post to reflect my error.

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Also, it's pretty funny that he'd quote my terrible, mean comment and thus open Melania up for additional analysis, rather than just let it go and be lost in the shadows of time.
But people need to show their lack of approval or else it's not good enough. There is a need that ALL of the left be held responsible for anything and everything that the right does not approve of and this reflects that. TBD NEEDS people to condemn what you said, or else all of the left is just as bad as they are.

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As for how accurate my terrible comment was, well, it's obviously 100%. She sold her body (and the more dramatic may say her soul) to an evil old whoremonger who sexually objectifies or criticizes all women, even his own flesh and blood. Her immigration status has been called into question in multiple ways that have so far gone unaddressed, and even if her immigration was all above board she'd still be an immigrant.

I have no issue with sex workers (though the business in general is hugely problematic), but Melania's version is pretty gross and she's proven herself to be a disgusting human being, so I wouldn't want to associate her with hard-working hookers and honorable prostitutes. Melania is a whore.
It's technically accurate to call her a whore in this circumstance, but I won't deny the negative atmosphere around the word. By definition it's someone that performs sexual acts for money, which Melania has done, on camera (posing nude, rubbing another woman). It's well documented, probably to the delight of many teenage Americans, that this has happened.

Again, this is just TBD's standard pearl clutching while completely missing out on his own blatant hypocrisy.

Look at the Stormy thread and see the terrible things he's said about Stormy. All of a sudden that changes here.
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Old 14th November 2018, 11:15 AM   #53
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Ya see folks, I opened Melania up to an astounding continuation of blatantly misogynistic attacks.

Wow, there are no other words.
Indeed so!

Melania is so much better off at staying with her husband who paid a porn star to have sex with him right after Melania gave birth to his son.
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Old 14th November 2018, 11:16 AM   #54
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That might be the wierdest aspect of this. Any other First Lady would have had a private word with her husband, and the offensive staffer would have been quietly moved to another job with an official statement of gratitude for her great service. This is hard to understand.
Or kept on and moved laterally a bit so that interfacing with the first lady wasn't an issue.
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Belatedly, my favorite part of his epic press conference meltdown was when he listed the Republicans who didn't fully embrace him, and proceeded to lose. It might as well be a scene from Heathers.

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Re: Melania...

It's technically accurate to call her a whore in this circumstance, but I won't deny the negative atmosphere around the word. By definition it's someone that performs sexual acts for money, which Melania has done, on camera (posing nude, rubbing another woman).
Well, to nitpick....

I think the definition of whore/prostitute/hooker/etc. is that they have sex with the person who pays them, specifically for the sexual gratification of the client. Melania would have been paid by a non-participant in the sexual act, who was photographing it as part of a business transaction. Melania was more of a porn actress in that circumstance.

What many think makes her a whore is her status as a gold-digger/trophy wife.... she was an attractive woman who married a wealthy person who was not attractive. Granted, maybe she has a sexual fetish for mushrooms and orangutans. But since that is a pretty rare fetish, the most likely reason she got married (and had sex with Trump at least once) is because he provided material benefit to her.

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Look at the Stormy thread and see the terrible things he's said about Stormy. All of a sudden that changes here.
That's different. Stormy isn't classy like Melania. After all, Stormy had sex Stubby McBonespurs.
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Again, this is just TBD's standard pearl clutching while completely missing out on his own blatant hypocrisy.

Look at the Stormy thread and see the terrible things he's said about Stormy. All of a sudden that changes here.
My recollection is that TBD referred to Avenatti as a whore in that thread.

Only a stupid **** would think that it is less misogynistic when you restrict the use of misogynistic labels to men. So, TBD must be referring to something else that is bothering him.
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sees that the misogynistic comments directed at Trump's wife are getting called and doubled down.

Cannot say I am surprised.
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That's the claim by her and her lawyer. But the basic question -- did she have a legal work visa at the time she was actually working? -- has never been reliably resolved.
https://apnews.com/37dc7aef0ce44077930b7436be7bfd0d
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...-donald-226648
No you must be wrong as I distinctly remember Trump say there would be a press conference that would clear it all up, and for you to be right would mean Trump lied!
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What about the people who swallowed that it was actually a national security crisis? How do they rationalize that nary a syllable has been spoken since election day?
No rationalization necessary. They can chose to believe that the troops will take care of everything. There was a crisis, the president responded, and the crisis was averted.

The tricky bit is not the silence on the caravan, the tricky bit is the silence on the middle-class tax cut.
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The tricky bit is not the silence on the caravan, the tricky bit is the silence on the middle-class tax cut.
Its all the Democrat's fault!

/trumpism

Actually, if I were the democrats, I would make the very first bill you come up with in the house one that:
- cuts taxes for lower income people
- Increases taxes for wealthy people (or increase corporate taxes). Not by a lot (you don't want to shock the system too much right away), but just enough to cover the lower class tax cuts, and maybe decrease the deficit (or at least be revenue neutral)

Challenge the republicans to vote your bill down. It will only stress that the republicans are only interested in helping the rich. If the republicans vote it down in the senate or trump vetoes it they look bad. If the bill goes through, it helps reestablish a little financial sanity
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The sneering hypocritical misogyny of the left.
A few random posters on a pissant message board are not representative of “the left.”

Furthermore, please note that no one defending President Donald “grab them by the pussy” Trump can ever claim the moral high ground when making accusations of sneering misogyny.
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One does not have to claim the high ground to decry the misogynistic attacks on Melania Trump, all one has to do is avoid diving into the cesspool, something that many of our posters seem to be unable to resist.
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One does not have to claim the high ground to decry the misogynistic attacks on Melania Trump, all one has to do is avoid diving into the cesspool, something that many of our posters seem to be unable to resist.
Attacks? You only linked to one attack.
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One does not have to claim the high ground to decry the misogynistic attacks on Melania Trump, all one has to do is avoid diving into the cesspool, something that many of our posters seem to be unable to resist.
TBD: I am completely insulted by the way "The Left" is treating women.

Also TBD: Stormy Daniels is a money grubbing whore that should be shunned.

Neat.
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Belatedly, my favorite part of his epic press conference meltdown was when he listed the Republicans who didn't fully embrace him, and proceeded to lose. It might as well be a scene from Heathers.

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US President Donald Trump's tweets mocking his French counterpart Emmanuel Macron were inappropriate and showed a lack of "common decency", France says.

On Tuesday, Mr Trump attacked Mr Macron over nationalism, plans for a European army and the French leader's ratings.

"We were marking the murder of 130 of our people," French government spokesman Benjamin Griveaux said, referring to the 2015 Paris attacks.

It follows Mr Trump's awkward Armistice Day visit to Paris over the weekend.

Mr Griveaux said 13 November was a date for France to mark the tragic incidents of three years ago in Paris and Saint-Denis, when co-ordinated suicide bombings and mass shootings killed 130 people and wounded hundreds more.

"So I will reply in English: 'common decency' would have been the appropriate thing," he told reporters on Wednesday.
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Attacks? You only linked to one attack.
I trust that people are able to read the thread for themselves, if you need me to link them all, just say the word.
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Curious, the person who bitterly and falsely complained that I was bringing up matters from another thread is fraudulently attributing things I never said to me in the Stormy Daniels thread.

Pathetic.

Gaze upon what fraudulent mischief the leftists use to defend the indefensible.
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Attacks? You only linked to one attack.
And there have been a few comments on how it was out of line or inappropriate.

I guess TBD cannot see those.
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Nomally I don't believe in dragging a politician's wife into the fray,but if Melania is going to try to play Madame Du Barry and/or the Empress Alexandria, then she has given up her non combatant status.
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TBD: I am completely insulted by the way "The Left" is treating women.

Also TBD: Stormy Daniels is a money grubbing whore that should be shunned.

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For a Die Hard Trump supporter to get all outraged over some name calling is one of the more hypocritical things I have seen lately. And I have seen a lot of hypocrisy...
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you realize that post is a total fabrication, right?
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Its all the Democrat's fault!
Actually, if I were the democrats, I would make the very first bill you come up with in the house one that:
- cuts taxes for lower income people
- Increases taxes for wealthy people (or increase corporate taxes). Not by a lot (you don't want to shock the system too much right away), but just enough to cover the lower class tax cuts, and maybe decrease the deficit (or at least be revenue neutral)

Challenge the republicans to vote your bill down. It will only stress that the republicans are only interested in helping the rich. If the republicans vote it down in the senate or trump vetoes it they look bad. If the bill goes through, it helps reestablish a little financial sanity
Sadly, wouldn't work. It would be spun just like they spun the original: taxing the rich would hurt the job creators, and look how low the unemployment rate is! Cutting their taxes before obviously worked...
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Actually, if I were the democrats, I would make the very first bill you come up with in the house one that:
- cuts taxes for lower income people
- Increases taxes for wealthy people (or increase corporate taxes). Not by a lot (you don't want to shock the system too much right away), but just enough to cover the lower class tax cuts, and maybe decrease the deficit (or at least be revenue neutral)
Sadly, wouldn't work. It would be spun just like they spun the original: taxing the rich would hurt the job creators, and look how low the unemployment rate is! Cutting their taxes before obviously worked...
That's the excuse/justification they used when the Republicans first cut taxes, but despite their supposed 'success' the tax cuts weren't very popular (only 39% approve/46% disapprove of them). And, most people aren't seeing a personal benefit. So, people are rightly seeing the Republican tax bill as "gifts for the wealthy". Republican 'spin' doesn't seem to be working with voters.

Do something that might actually benefit the poor or middle class and even more people might ignore Republican spin.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243611/...-tax-cuts.aspx
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