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Old 18th November 2018, 07:05 PM   #121
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If only we could use his In Our Time Machine to go back and stop this madness.
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Old 19th November 2018, 02:57 AM   #122
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Originally Posted by The Moog View Post
Make me Brexit minister, I could do just as good a job.
Well, I'm down as Brexit Minister today, planning on resigning tomorrow morning, you could take over after that? Say, the 8am-8pm slot?

Anyone here fancy the night shift after that?
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Old 19th November 2018, 04:53 AM   #123
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Well, I'm down as Brexit Minister today, planning on resigning tomorrow morning, you could take over after that? Say, the 8am-8pm slot?

Anyone here fancy the night shift after that?
Maybe Andrej Babiš?
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Old 19th November 2018, 05:13 AM   #124
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Originally Posted by Tolls View Post
Well, I'm down as Brexit Minister today, planning on resigning tomorrow morning, you could take over after that? Say, the 8am-8pm slot?

Anyone here fancy the night shift after that?
Can I do this while working from home?
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Old 19th November 2018, 05:35 AM   #125
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It's OK, there's a potential saviour

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/19/david...-says-8154169/

Alternatively, this is actually too stupid even for current British politics.
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Old 19th November 2018, 05:52 AM   #126
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Can I do this while working from home?
You can type your resignation letter anywhere.
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Old 19th November 2018, 07:41 AM   #127
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
I get that when one leaves the Golf Club, you should no longer expect to enjoy its benefits.

However, in the unique case of the UK, there is a Good Friday Agreement in place in respect of Northern Ireland and its borders.
Maybe it would have been a good idea to actually try to have some idea how they wanted this to work before taking back our borders(but NOT THAT ONE!!!!).
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Old 19th November 2018, 07:46 AM   #128
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Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
It's OK, there's a potential saviour

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/19/david...-says-8154169/

Alternatively, this is actually too stupid even for current British politics.
Don't think even Sir Humphrey could plan that far ahead to pull that one off!

The CEO of my company in the UK issued a statement on Friday, the essence of which was there were two choices:-
  1. Push for another referendum (hoping for a remain outcome)
  2. Accept what we've drafted and work with it

His reluctant decision (his words) was for option 2
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Old 19th November 2018, 07:48 AM   #129
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Can't. The EU are demanding an exit fee, and even then the UK will be bound to its edicts indefinitely.
So pull a Trump and just refuse to pay your debts. Simple really default on all obligations and live with a closed border. And stop whining about your decision to close the Irish border.
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Old 19th November 2018, 07:51 AM   #130
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Then it's high time that the UK tempers it's expectations.
Reality and logic will play not role in the expectations of the UK!
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Old 19th November 2018, 07:53 AM   #131
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So pull a Trump and just refuse to pay your debts. Simple really default on all obligations and live with a closed border. And stop whining about your decision to close the Irish border.
I would expect that this would affect the subsequent trade negotiations
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I would expect that this would affect the subsequent trade negotiations
Well of course, but trade and international travel are small prices to pay for retaking your boarders! Where is the old Blitz spirit? Bring back rationing and all that like in the good old days!
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Well of course, but trade and international travel are small prices to pay for retaking your boarders! Where is the old Blitz spirit? Bring back rationing and all that like in the good old days!
The people invoking the blitz spirit tend to ignore how reliant the UK was on the Atlantic convoys.
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Old 19th November 2018, 02:39 PM   #134
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Rees Mogg and his ERG have been bleating about their plan for Brexit.
Yes, lets follow a plan suggested by the people who couldn’t work a plan to get 48 letters together.
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Old 19th November 2018, 03:09 PM   #135
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Rees Mogg and his ERG have been bleating about their plan for Brexit.
Yes, lets follow a plan suggested by the people who couldn’t work a plan to get 48 letters together.
When their side has been "responsible" for "negotiating" Brexit for the last two years.

Raab presumably went to the Cabinet meeting knowing what he'd agreed, stood by May, then after accepting the deal, resigned.

Even bigger bunch of clowns than May or Corbyn.
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The DUP has warned Theresa May to "keep her side of the bargain" on Brexit after the party's 10 MPs withheld their support in votes on Budget measures.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46269757
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Old 20th November 2018, 03:20 AM   #137
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I'm still very confused as to exactly what end result the DUP want from Bresit.
They seem to want to leave the EU, but not have a border with the EU, but not be in any customs union (possibly?).
Which is, surely, not achievable?

Is there a simple list of (non-contradictory) demands from them?
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Is there a simple list of (non-contradictory) demands from them anyone?
FTFY.

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Make me Brexit minister, I could do just as good a job.
With Arlene Foster as Evil Edna...
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Eh?
I presume it refers to the opt-outs, the continual grumbling and complaining and the demands for special treatment.
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So pull a Trump and just refuse to pay your debts. Simple really default on all obligations and live with a closed border. And stop whining about your decision to close the Irish border.
Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
Well of course, but trade and international travel are small prices to pay for retaking your boarders! Where is the old Blitz spirit? Bring back rationing and all that like in the good old days!
It really is time for a remake of 1990, say 2030.


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I'm still very confused as to exactly what end result the DUP want from Bresit.
They seem to want to leave the EU, but not have a border with the EU, but not be in any customs union (possibly?).
Which is, surely, not achievable?

Is there a simple list of (non-contradictory) demands from them?
Taigs out.
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Well I've now read the withdrawal agreement/proposal and all I can say is "good luck" and "thanks for all the fishes".
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I presume it refers to the opt-outs, the continual grumbling and complaining and the demands for special treatment.
To be fair that's true of pretty much all the countries in the EU, they all look out for their own interests first, as they should.
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Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
It's OK, there's a potential saviour

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/19/david...-says-8154169/

Alternatively, this is actually too stupid even for current British politics.
Naah, let's bring back Thatcher instead.
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Naah, let's bring back Thatcher instead.
If there was someone who knew how to sell "signing away our sovereignty" to the public as a positive it was Thatcher.
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I'm still very confused as to exactly what end result the DUP want from Bresit.
They seem to want to leave the EU, but not have a border with the EU, but not be in any customs union (possibly?).
Which is, surely, not achievable?

Is there a simple list of (non-contradictory) demands from them?
What you have to understand about the DUP is that they want Northern Irland to be treated the same as the rest of the UK. Just the same. Exactly the same.

Except for in the areas of women's rights and reproductive autonomy, gay rights, same sex marriage, cross border trade and movement, use of Ulster Scots, religion........
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Why? If the UK has to follow its laws and regulations, of course it must expect to have a say in the passing and formulating of legislation.
Why? Norway and Switzerland don't.

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In a wonderful couldn't-make-it-up moment Spain have now said they will veto the deal anyway unless the situation on Gibraltar is clarified.
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What you have to understand about the DUP is that they want Northern Irland to be treated the same as the rest of the UK. Just the same. Exactly the same.

Except for in the areas of women's rights and reproductive autonomy, gay rights, same sex marriage, cross border trade and movement, use of Ulster Scots, religion........
In matters of social issues NI is an embarrassment for the UK.
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Rees Mogg and his ERG have been bleating about their plan for Brexit.
All you need to know about the ERG is the fact that here in the Netherlands (otherwise known as "the place your food comes from") the word "erg" means "terrible".
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Shades of '1990', remember Edward Woodward?
Now available on DVD! It's actually quite dreary, as 1970s BBC dystopian drama goes (Survivors is much better!), but bits of it do seem worryingly prophetic, even if the writer thought the "bad" stuff would come about for an entirely different reason.
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All you need to know about the ERG is the fact that here in the Netherlands (otherwise known as "the place your food comes from") the word "erg" means "terrible".
Could you do me a favour? Buy some extra refrigerators and freezers to store my food in as I do believe there might be some slight delay in getting it to me after the 29th March. Thanks.

Signed: The people who didn't want to leave and those that are now thinking "oh my god what have we done?!!!" of the UK.
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In a wonderful couldn't-make-it-up moment Spain have now said they will veto the deal anyway unless the situation on Gibraltar is clarified.
That's been on the cards for some time, hasn't it?
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The people invoking the blitz spirit tend to ignore how reliant the UK was on the Atlantic convoys.
There's a whole heap of stuff such people are ignorant of.
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Could you do me a favour? Buy some extra refrigerators and freezers to store my food in as I do believe there might be some slight delay in getting it to me after the 29th March. Thanks.

Signed: The people who didn't want to leave and those that are now thinking "oh my god what have we done?!!!" of the UK.
And hope for no power cuts....
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That's been on the cards for some time, hasn't it?
Shameful opportunism - totally unpredictable!
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All you need to know about the ERG is the fact that here in the Netherlands (otherwise known as "the place your food comes from") the word "erg" means "terrible".
and 'very'... I'll admit that just doesn't have quite the same ring to it though.
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Here in the U.S. you can even pull over to the side of the road and type it out on your mobile device after a snow job destroys your reputation and none of your colleagues have an ounce of spine between them.
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In matters of social issues NI is an embarrassment for the UK.
Thirty years of carnage, from 1968 to 1998, was somewhat embarrassing too.
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