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Old 2nd December 2017, 11:17 AM   #201
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Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
Minutes ago, Trump tweeted:

This seems to be an admission that Trump was aware Flynn had lied to the FBI before he pressured FBI director Comey to drop the investigation into Flynn.
But The PDJT had to make it about himself -- "Hey, I got rid of the bad guy!"
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Old 2nd December 2017, 11:22 AM   #202
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Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
Minutes ago, Trump tweeted:

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I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI.
I had to kill Mike Flynn because he made a mistake. Now it's time to erase that mistake.
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Old 2nd December 2017, 11:25 AM   #203
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Meanwhile, RT manages to find a different take on the whole topic...
"Why Flynn’s plea is a dead end for ‘Russiagate’ conspiracy"
They are trying to sneak Trump a cheat-sheet as they cringe watching him repeat a little too vehemently, "no collusion, no siree, no collusion."
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Old 2nd December 2017, 12:16 PM   #204
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It seems the hill they're all choosing to die on is that what Flynn just pleaded guilty to, as curtly outlined in the court filing, is the only thing Mueller had on him.
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Old 2nd December 2017, 12:17 PM   #205
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
They are trying to sneak Trump a cheat-sheet as they cringe watching him repeat a little too vehemently, "no collusion, no siree, no collusion."
For a guy surrounded by lawyers, he's really *********** this up.
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Old 2nd December 2017, 12:38 PM   #206
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It seems the hill they're all choosing to die on
I'll believe that when they start dying on it. The current GOP are masters of rear-guard action. Yesterday it was all sour grapes and partisan witch hunt, tomorrow it'll be whatever other alternate reality they'd prefer to be living in.
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Old 2nd December 2017, 12:38 PM   #207
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Meanwhile, RT manages to find a different take on the whole topic...
"Why Flynn’s plea is a dead end for ‘Russiagate’ conspiracy"
And they deleted my comment, which was a courteously-worded reply to someone who said something like "is this all they got on Flynn?", and I replied that this was just the start, and Flynn had clearly struck a deal that would lead to him incriminating Trump.
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Old 2nd December 2017, 03:38 PM   #208
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More on the nothing burger.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/...s-for-mueller/
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Old 2nd December 2017, 04:23 PM   #209
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
For a guy surrounded by lawyers, he's really *********** this up.
A lawyer is only as good as his client.
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Old 2nd December 2017, 04:35 PM   #210
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Britebart.

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Britebart.
That’s Breitbart

They’re only relaying the news, no need to hide.
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Old 2nd December 2017, 04:44 PM   #212
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Old 2nd December 2017, 04:48 PM   #213
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
That’s Breitbart

They’re only relaying the news, no need to hide.
That's odd. What are they under new management now or something?
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Old 2nd December 2017, 05:19 PM   #214
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
That’s Breitbart

They’re only relaying the news, no need to hide.
Like hell they are....

Oh wait. You're "conservative". My bad.

See, here in the real world, news and opinion are different.
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Old 2nd December 2017, 05:24 PM   #215
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Funny: Breitbart, National Review, and RT all have exactly the same take on it.
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Like hell they are....

Oh wait. You're "conservative". My bad.

See, here in the real world, news and opinion are different.


The whole piece is about what Dershowitz said.

Go ahead and read it, you won’t catch a thing!
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Old 2nd December 2017, 05:28 PM   #217
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Funny: Breitbart, National Review, and RT all have exactly the same take on it.
Take?

What is their take on it?
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Old 2nd December 2017, 05:30 PM   #218
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
wow, Russia Today and Breitbart links, next we'll have people posting Trump Tweets as proof that there is nothing to this.
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wow, Russia Today and Breitbart links, next we'll have people posting Trump Tweets as proof that there is nothing to this.
It wasn’t posted as proof, it was posted as more news. It’s my opinion it is a nothing burger.
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
Britebart.

Only half-brite, I think.
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That’s Breitbart

They’re only relaying the news, no need to hide.
Really? What changed?
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Old 2nd December 2017, 05:38 PM   #222
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It wasn’t posted as proof, it was posted as more news. It’s my opinion it is a nothing burger.
No it's not. It's your pretense that it's your opinion that it's a nothingburger.
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Old 2nd December 2017, 05:44 PM   #223
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Take?

What is their take on it?
That Flynn only got charged with lying to the FBI because Mueller couldn't pin anything else on him, so QED no collusion. That's a really stupid argument.
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Originally Posted by logger View Post


The whole piece is about what Dershowitz said.

Go ahead and read it, you won’t catch a thing!
It's an opinion piece.

That is not news. You DO know there's a difference, don't you?
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
It's an opinion piece.

That is not news. You DO know there's a difference, don't you?
An opinion piece from Dershowitz, not Breitbart. Do you understand that?
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That Flynn only got charged with lying to the FBI because Mueller couldn't pin anything else on him, so QED no collusion. That's a really stupid argument.
Lol

No that wasn’t it at all. Because Flynn was charged with lying, that makes him a terrible witness. That is what Dershowitz’s point was.
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Lol

No that wasn’t it at all. Because Flynn was charged with lying, that makes him a terrible witness. That is what Dershowitz’s point was.
No, that was just a lame attempt to buttress his main point:

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I’m sure the prosecutor was trying to indict him for some scheme or conspiracy that involved other people in the White House, but there is nothing there, and he had to, finally come down and indict him for lying, which makes him a useless witness. So, this is not a show of strength by the prosecutor. It’s a show of weakness. It’s a show that they really have nothing on anybody above of Flynn and that Flynn made the terrible mistake about lying about something he could have told truth about.
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An opinion piece from Dershowitz, not Breitbart. Do you understand that?
If it's on britebart, it's worthless.

But it was you who said they were just relaying the news. I simply corrected you.

As usual.

They were printing someone's opinion.
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
If it's on britebart, it's worthless.

But it was you who said they were just relaying the news. I simply corrected you.
Corrected me about what? You said just as you did in this quoted post that Breitbart is worthless, I simply informed you they’re just reporting the news, the news being an opinion piece by Dershowitz.

As usual.

They were printing someone's opinion.[/quote]
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Corrected me about what? You said just as you did in this quoted post that Breitbart is worthless, I simply informed you they’re just reporting the news, the news being an opinion piece by Dershowitz.

As usual.

They were printing someone's opinion.
No ****![/quote]

Again you think that opinion and news are the same.

They're NOT.

Again and again you have been corrected. Any more and i start charging for your education.
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No ****!

Again you think that opinion and news are the same.

They're NOT.

Again and again you have been corrected. Any more and i start charging for your education.
Lol

Dershowitz’s opinion on this issue is actually news.
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Lol

Dershowitz’s opinion on this issue is actually news.
maybe to britebart readers, but again, and I'm tired of pointing this out as well, not to people who deal in reality.
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Lol

Dershowitz’s opinion on this issue is actually news.
Your posting style reminds me of Breitbart's managing editor. He tends to let out a little involuntary snicker of derision before responding to (or dodging, deflecting or obfuscating) a question.
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maybe to britebart readers, but again, and I'm tired of pointing this out as well, not to people who deal in reality.
Anyone else want to agree that Dershowitz’s opinion on this issue isn’t news?
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It's an opinion piece.

That is not news. You DO know there's a difference, don't you?
Saw Dershowitz on CNN today as a pundit. He's going around giving his biased opinion claiming it is based on his legal expertise. It's not. He was called out by another pundit as being totally biased toward the request for the delayed resolution against Israel.

It's like Trump not caring if Russia interfered in the election, Trump won. Dershowitz was all for the Russian intervening, because he wanted the outcome about the resolution against Israel deferred.

Cheating is OK as long as you benefit.

The Hill: OPINION | Dershowitz is wrong about Mueller and Russia
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"Attorney Alan Dershowitz says special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia 'endangers Democracy.'”

"The idea of trying to create crimes just because we disagree with [Trump] politically, and target him, really endangers democracy. [It] reminds me of what the head of the KGB said to Stalin: 'Show me the man, and I will find you the crime,'" Dershowitz told John Catsimatidis on New York's AM 970 in an interview that aired on Sunday.
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It wasn’t posted as proof, it was posted as more news. It’s my opinion it is a nothing burger.
Why has this "nothingburger" compelled so many Trump associates to lie to the
FBI and congress?

No need to lie about nothing. OTC, there is a need to not lie to the FBI. Especially about nothing.

Just doing your job won't get you 5 years, but lying to the FBI might get you 5 years.
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Why has this "nothingburger" compelled so many Trump associates to lie to the
FBI and congress?

No need to lie about nothing. OTC, there is a need to not lie to the FBI. Especially about nothing.

Just doing your job won't get you 5 years, but lying to the FBI might get you 5 years.
You might want to familiarize yourself with what Papa and Flynn lied about? Then simply ask yourself, does this prove collusion?
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You might want to familiarize yourself with what Papa and Flynn lied about? Then simply ask yourself, does this prove collusion?
It seems they were lying to cover up or minimize contacts they had had with Russians.

This at a time when their boss was asserting that “the Russia thing” was “a ruse”, and that no one on his team had made such contacts.

Theory 1: They lied on their own out of a sense of loyalty.

Theory 2: The had instructions or pressure to lie in order to validate Trump’s assertions.

I assume the investigators are in search of evidence to support or refute either of these theories.

If the evidence confirms Theory 2, the question will be a paraphrase of Watergate’s: “What did the President order, and when did he order it?”
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If it's on britebart, it's worthless.
I generally feel the same way about anything from Dershowitz. On Breitbart + by Dersh = Giant Steaming Turd.
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Lol

Dershowitz’s opinion on this issue is actually news.
Maybe, if the headline is "Dershowitz Ridiculed for Flynn Comments."
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