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Old Today, 03:42 PM   #1841
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
You've said nothing about why they couldn't or wouldn't fix the glitch. And you should expect them to be especially motivated to do that if the glitch occurs at the moment that everything becomes a lie.
it was live.

the whole first part is full of glitches.

You can't remove live glitches once they have happened.

its in the past.



but as i said, the glitches serve a purpose in this illusion, that being -to mask the splice ( if it is a hoax)

the glitches are ESSENTIAL to pulling off the deception
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The beginning questions are live from real people, the questions at the end are pre planned and posted live from fake accounts to coincide with her 'choosing' to read them. But its in the script.
If you are going to have a fake question at the end of the video, why would you bother with making real questions at the beginning?
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Originally Posted by RussDill View Post
Go check out the Flyboard Air record video. The clouds are very irregular. If the video was pre-recorded, the clouds would not match any other video recorded in the same area that day. There are also many active elements such as boats. It'd be super easy to have a boat in the video be in its slip, but in reality be out at sea at that time or vice versa.
this is why i have spent hours looking at the clouds in the videos of that event.
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Originally Posted by RussDill View Post
If you are going to have a fake question at the end of the video, why would you bother with making real questions at the beginning?
you would have to watch my video to get that, and to fully get that, watch the entire video on vidme.

Its a good question, and one i spent many hours to articulate before shooting my video - which took over 20 minutes just to explain ( the very point you just raised.) and that video, although only 50 people ever saw it, likley 30 of them bots, took an enormous amount of time to make.

i am not going to attempt to paraphrase it here in a single post. i put it down in that video as best i could.

if you want to understand why it was important to have live questions and fke questions you will have to endure the full horror of that entire video.

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you would have to watch my video to get that, and to fully get that, watch the entire video on vidme.

Its a good question, and one i spent many hours to articulate before shooting my video - which took over 20 minutes just to explain ( the very point you just raised.) and that video, although only 50 people ever saw it, likley 0 of them bots, took an enormous amount of time to make.

i am not going to attempt to paraphrase it here in a single post. i put it down in that video as best i could.
Yes, that'll convince everyone to watch your video.

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Originally Posted by esspee View Post
its not sky news, it is sky news online - or skynews facebook or whatever.

it IS a 'puff' outlet as it is.

if he appeard on Sky news real maybe i would understand your point.
If was broadcast live, then it was on Sky News TV. All of the videos on the Sky News website are re-broadcasts of what appeared on the tv station. You still didn't answer the question of why they would willing participate in a hoax that could potential damage their reputation.

I remember a while back there was a news agency that caught some flak for faking a background for a live shot...and all they did was string some police tape up to make it look like they were standing in front of the crime scene.
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Originally Posted by esspee View Post
i put it down in that video as best i could.
And this thread appears to be little more than a periodic attempt to drive traffic to your YouTube channel. You've already indicated that you measure the success of your efforts in hits, so I decline to cater to your ulterior motive.

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if you want to understand why it was important to have live questions and fke questions you will have to endure the full horror of that entire video.
No.

If you're going to purport to use this forum to discuss your findings, then you can present your findings here in all their glory, in the format this forum is built to present. I'm not going to sit through a load of drivel just to get an answer to a question asked here, based on arguments and counterarguments made here. If your defense is going to consist of "Go give me YouTube hits," then I'm not interested in your defense and I'll just stick with the conclusion I've already drawn regarding your claims.
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Old Today, 04:01 PM   #1848
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Originally Posted by esspee View Post
this is why i have spent hours looking at the clouds in the videos of that event.
Have you found some mismatched clouds in the many videos of these guys and their fake flying machines?
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Old Today, 04:07 PM   #1849
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Originally Posted by Macgyver1968 View Post
You still didn't answer the question of why they would willing participate in a hoax that could potential damage their reputation.
It's more than damage that would occur if the network was hoaxed. Here it's an organized conspiracy of fraud which leads to lawsuits and oops Sky News TV just went out of business.
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And this thread appears to be little more than a periodic attempt to drive traffic to your YouTube channel. You've already indicated that you measure the success of your efforts in hits, so I decline to cater to your ulterior motive.

If you're going to purport to use this forum to discuss your findings, then you can present your findings here in all their glory, in the format this forum is built to present. I'm not going to sit through a load of drivel just to get an answer to a question asked here, based on arguments and counterarguments made here. If your defense is going to consist of "Go give me YouTube hits," then I'm not interested in your defense and I'll just stick with the conclusion I've already drawn regarding your claims.
It might make the overall discussion more productive to just have mods remove any links to his own video channel.
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Originally Posted by RussDill View Post
Yes, that'll convince everyone to watch your video.

http://i.imgur.com/RuOAB0Qm.jpg
they'll watch if it i am proved right.
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If was broadcast live, then it was on Sky News TV. All of the videos on the Sky News website are re-broadcasts of what appeared on the tv station. You still didn't answer the question of why they would willing participate in a hoax that could potential damage their reputation.

I remember a while back there was a news agency that caught some flak for faking a background for a live shot...and all they did was string some police tape up to make it look like they were standing in front of the crime scene.
it was not their main website, it was their facebook 'presence'. they have a show for facebook, done on facebook
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they'll watch if it i am proved right.
No they wouldn't. People would watch CNN and BBC talk about the fake and fraud and the subsequent collapse of Guinness and Sky News TV. There would be no mention of your YouTube channel. Google searches for "Flyboard is fake" would result in hundreds of major media stories with your videos being nowhere in sight.
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Originally Posted by esspee View Post
it was not their main website, it was their facebook 'presence'. they have a show for facebook, done on facebook
The video still has the Sky News logo on it. It's the only reason I knew where the source of the video came from. Whether it came from tv, or their website or their facebook page...it's branded with their logo.

You're still not answering the question. Why would a news organization willingly participate in a hoax that could damage their reputation? It's not just about this video...but all of the others that have received news attention. Why did the broadcasters of the soccer match participate in the fake flying of Duru's drone? Why did Breitling sponsor a fake flying platform? Why did Guinness certify a fake flight? All of these companies have a great reputation...why would they put that at risk just to show some dude flying on an fake experimental aircraft?
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
I think he said that he no longer considers this a conspiracy involving a shill audience. I think he said that his more current idea is that it's an unknown and unprecedented form of magic act. The audience "sees" him flying around and it all looks totally legit - but he isn't actually flying it. He says that he has no idea how he does the trick but he is certainly doing some sort of trick.

But I don't believe that he believes his own ideas about this.
It's weird. I don't know why he is going to such great lengths, it's not like he is defending a belief in Sky Daddy, he simply wants to deny off the shelf technology.
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It's weird. I don't know why he is going to such great lengths, it's not like he is defending a belief in Sky Daddy, he simply wants to deny off the shelf technology.

He apparently just wants attention and Youtube ad revenue.
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Originally Posted by Hokulele View Post
He apparently just wants attention and Youtube ad revenue.
The first part is very true..and we have obliged him for nearly 50 pages. None of his videos have enough views to come even close to being relevant...much less monitizeable.
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Originally Posted by esspee View Post
the glitches are ESSENTIAL to pulling off the deception
Mistakes and accidents must be essential too.

Check out his big flip fall at 2:33.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JinhIHIF8Eo

Iron Man's blunder wouldn't look anything like that if it wasn't faked with CGI or whatever, right?
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Originally Posted by Macgyver1968 View Post
Why would Sky News risk their reputation to take part in a hoax video...for essentially a meaningless puff piece?
Sky News added to list of conspirators.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_NbTDNGfWo

One of many fan videos taken, Let the hand waving commence.
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this is why i have spent hours looking at the clouds in the videos of that event.
Have you looked at clouds from both sides now
From up and down and still somehow
It's cloud's illusions I recall
You really don't know clouds at all
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