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25th September 2007, 01:46 PM | #361 |
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I have not the know how, but I was hoping he would keep it up...have not seen him in a while.
As for R.Mackey, I believe he does not wish to post his credentials, and I respect that. TAM |
25th September 2007, 01:49 PM | #362 |
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Since I'm a newbie too, and just found this thread, I'll toss my two cents in:
AS Computers and Electronics BS Computer Information Systems 25 Years experience as a Customer Engineer for NCR Corp. Currently do technical and consulting work for a bank security company. Served 10 years with A.C. Sheriff's Reserve unit as a uniformed deputy. I was licensed (Class A) as a skydiver many years ago, but don't do that anymore. Certified Master Scuba Diver (NAUI) My particular interest in stopping hysterical nonsense stems from my having spent a lot of time at Indian Lake, right next to the shanksville area (that's where most of the skydiving took place). There were also a few great golf weekends there. I feel a certain kindred with the people that live there and have some familiarity of the lay of the land as it looks from the air. Obviously my pet peeve is troothers who make outrageous claims about Flight 93, and the disrespect they show for the families of the victims and the recovery and investigative teams that had to face and deal with the crash scene. Other than that, I just enjoy watching kooks getting proved wrong everytime they open their mouths. |
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25th September 2007, 01:58 PM | #363 |
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OldTigerCub:
I got a feeling you and TC329 will not get along real well...lol Look him up here on JREF...Shanksville is his thing...full blown Truth movement. TAM |
25th September 2007, 02:07 PM | #364 |
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BSc Civil Engineering - University of Cape Town (2003)
3.5 years construction experience. Built roads, numerous reinforced concrete structures, sports fields, residential developements etc. Have some design experience (+-6 months) in stormwater management systems, sewage treatment plant design and optimisation. I am a keen problem solver and enjoy a challenge! I like to, without exception, look at the logical, practicle side of any situation. Once you have that in check, everything else falls into place. |
25th September 2007, 03:02 PM | #365 |
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26th September 2007, 07:24 AM | #366 |
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I'm still around; don't have much to contribute, though.
I can look into updating the list, or tell you how to do it ... dealer's choice. (The latter would require maintaining a copy of the list off-line, either in a ready-to-post format - which is a bit ugly - or in a text format converted to the post format by some free [GPL] software.) |
4th October 2007, 08:01 AM | #367 |
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A warm thankyou to TAM and grmcdorman!
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TAM and grmcdorman, Thanks for taking the time to put this thread and list together. I printed out the latest list (11 pages) and spent some time going over it. I stopped at each person's entry, and worked to give each his due. I tried to really let in the person, based on the entry and what I have seen the person post. Now, I am here at JREF promoting - shall we say - an unpopular model. That creates a thermite spark or two...that's to be expected. But in reading the list, it took just a few seconds to start feeling "Wow, that's a really interesting background. I bet it would be fun to meet this person." And it's a long list, so there were a lot of interesting people! Lots of the names are very clever, and very funny. I was impressed by the number of people from the armed services. Guys, I have genuine respect, admiration, and appreciation of those who serve. Though it may not look like I am on your side, I am. From my perspective, honorable servicemen are being dishonorably deployed (and are fighting honorably). There are some artistic types in the list, which is very cool. (I myself paint and cartoon.) Some of the notables were missing. Why, I expected to see a name or two with - like - five PhDs. That's the great thing - JREF has big guns in reserve (set on AUTO...with motion detection). Lastly, it would be fun to know who the truthers are on the list. You have my permission to mark my entry as such if you'd like. Thanks again guys. Great project! Cheers! Max * * * |
4th October 2007, 01:04 PM | #368 |
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The offer has been made to truthers here to submit their qualifications, which I think, IIRC, you did Max. Most other truthers (I am assuming you consider yourself one) have declined.
R. Mackey has declined, as have others here, and we respect their wishes...the purpose of this thread was merely to show visitors and critics that we are not a bunch of uneducated half-wits. Even those without formal education here, can prove this simply through their discussion skills...which they usually do. TAM |
4th October 2007, 02:20 PM | #369 |
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Max Photon, do you promise to tell the truther, the whole truther, and nothing but...
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Well TAM that's a shame. Other truthers should "submit." By the way, "truther" is not my first pick, but it is a functional label with wide recognition here, so I am happy to call myself a truther for ID purposes. So again, you may - heck, I encourage you - to add to my entry: Truther (with permission) Max Truther Photon |
4th October 2007, 02:33 PM | #370 |
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Our Max, Who Art in Heaven....
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Artists have very important 9/11 expertise. Artists see fields of possibilities, and then show those fields to others. For those who see possibilities...a little treat: Can Artists Ever Truly Be Modest? http://www.incharacter.org/article.php?article=54 9/11-God * * * |
4th October 2007, 02:38 PM | #371 |
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Why do I always hear "purple haze" after one of Max's posts? Maybe it's a flash back.
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4th October 2007, 08:19 PM | #372 |
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4th October 2007, 08:36 PM | #373 |
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Just noticed this, and while I don't frequent the conspiracy threads figured I'd answer anyway....
BS degrees in Computer Science and History Miniors in Math and Physics MSEE ACOT, ACSC Was at "ground zero" (Pentagon) on 11 SEP 01, ~60yards from impact |
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4th October 2007, 09:27 PM | #374 |
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Another newbie here. My professional background is in defense security, primarily contractor side (20+ years). I have a background in firearms (generalized) and building trades (again, generalized with focus mostly in carpentry).
Due to restrictions of various NDAs, I do not wish to discuss agencies or companies I have worked with/for in the defense field. |
4th October 2007, 10:39 PM | #375 |
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I am also new here:
B.S. Chemistry (2006) and Mathematics (2006) I am currently pursuing a PhD in Chemistry, particularly in molecular modeling in inorganic chemistry. I know it is quite a stretch from the large scale modeling of NIST, but with molecular modeling I can calculate the energy released during a thermite reaction. |
4th October 2007, 10:50 PM | #376 |
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That's one heck of a username for a chem major.
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4th October 2007, 10:52 PM | #377 |
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He He He
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4th October 2007, 10:53 PM | #378 |
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I...uh...passed my AP Physics exam...and, uh...I took one year of high school engineering...
Hey, if that's good enough for the Truthers, why can't it be good enough for us ? |
4th October 2007, 10:55 PM | #379 |
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But I did take Debate class for all three years of middle school and all four years of high school! And it shows!
Uh...it DOES show, right? ...right? |
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12th October 2007, 06:10 PM | #383 |
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My expertise
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MS, Aeronautical Science - Several classes in Aviation Accident Investigation Masters of Strategic Studies - Several classes in critical thinking - 22+ years experience, US Air Force - Currently Lieutenant Colonel, selected for promotion to full Colonel (should be in March 2008) - 17 years experience in Aircraft Maintenance. Supervised maintenance on F-15, KC-135, RC-135, and KC-10 aircraft - 5 years experience in Air Force Supply and Transportation - 2-time Squadron Commander - Staff Officer at Air Combat Command Headquarters, Langley AFB VA - Graduated from US Army War College (yes they send Air Force guys there) - States/countries visited or stationed in: Illinois, Nebraska, New Jersey, Virginia, Texas, Pennsylvania, Okinawa Japan, Tokyo japan, Singapore, Thailand, China (Hong Kong), South Korea, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, Italy, Germany, England I got interested in debunking 9/11 conspiracies about 2 years ago. Started on the IMDB forums for the World Trade Center Movie (still post there) and Loose Change. My strongest areas of expertise are on the flight profiles of Flights 11, 93, 77 and 175, plus accident investigation techniques. Still reading the NIST, trying to get stronger on that aspect of 9/11. Really impressed with the wealth of information available here at JREF. Lots of reading to do! As my friend sivazh here likes to say, arguing with a CTist is like trying to teach a ham sandwich how to play chess. |
12th October 2007, 06:22 PM | #384 |
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12th October 2007, 07:20 PM | #385 |
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Welcome!
That's a hell of a resume my friend. You can find tons of links to anything related to debunking 9/11 here. An easy way to start is to click on the sig under any post by Gravy. (He has a sticky at the top of this forum.) But beware, once you start down that road you can find a days worth of reading. And, thanks for your Service! |
12th October 2007, 10:11 PM | #386 |
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16th October 2007, 12:43 PM | #388 |
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Updated lists on the way!
I'm putting together an updated credential list (using the fancy format). I'm also going to post the military credentials table (originally here) since it seems to be better to have both in one place.
There are a few people in the "non-military" list who have military credentials; I've only added USAFMXOfficer from here to the military list, since she/he posted fairly complete military credentials (and is still serving). Enjoy. |
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Summary of JREF poster's military credentials
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Note: The data in this list is not verified, and is soley based on information posted in this thread. In other words, caveat lector. Counts in the following table are by pay grade. Not all posters listed are members of the U.S. forces, and some that are have not provided full rank details, so the total of the counts is not equal to the number of posters listed. This table was originally posted in a different thread; however, I felt it was probably better to post both tables in this thread. Summary of U.S. Posters, by Pay Grade
Note to people submitting credentials: The actual file containing all of the submitted data looks like this: Code:
J. Random Poster Rank: Redshirt (Deathus Muchus) Pay Grade: E-0 Affiliation: United Federation of Planets, Star Fleet Service: 2251-2250 Spent most of service in sick-bay. 37 people in the list.
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That's it; enjoy. If there are errors or omissions, let me know (likewise, if someone wants to be moved between the two lists).
I note there are a few duplications between the two lists - at least Beachnut, and possibly others. I haven't bothered to track them down yet, especially since the two lists don't contain the same information. |
16th October 2007, 01:44 PM | #392 |
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Excellent job. Thanks a bunch for putting it together like this.
TAM |
16th October 2007, 01:51 PM | #393 |
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FWIW, and I appreciate that the more cynical will assume I've made this up, but I'm part of the team that have just designed this:
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16th October 2007, 02:15 PM | #394 |
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the one on the right...is that a remake of the leaning tower of Pisa??
J/K TAM |
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Sorry about that; fixed it. Must have been because it's right after the last previous list.
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16th October 2007, 03:00 PM | #397 |
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Does 'derailer of threads' constitute to something?
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