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27th May 2009, 05:08 AM | #241 |
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That was cute, but in the time it took you to do that you could have answered my question, it was really pretty simple.
I'll make it easy for you, all you have to do is circle your answer with your crayon; Who is wrong? 1) The Pate Family 2) Whitewolf Entertainment, Rick Noll and the participants of LMS. |
27th May 2009, 06:55 AM | #243 |
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That's absolutely wrong. Lori continued running the camcorder well after the subject disappeared into the woods, hoping to get more footage of the subject. Was she hoping to get additional video footage of a jogger????? No. Also, the conversation going on at the time did indicate they thought they were seeing a real Bigfoot creature. One example...
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...is a distortion of what I've said, or implied...and a distortion of what the kid said. He said...."I'm freaked". That's not the same thing as "I'm scared". Being in a remote, wilderness area, thinking there is an ape/man hanging around the same mountainside you're on....would indeed feel a little on the "freaky" side...especially for a young kid. |
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27th May 2009, 07:31 AM | #244 |
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Bigfoot believers and Bigfoot skeptics are both plumb crazy. Each spends more than one minute per year thinking about Bigfoot. |
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27th May 2009, 09:52 AM | #245 |
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I already answered your question......yesterday... blackdog wrote:
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Apparently, it took the Pates et al, 5+ years to decide they saw a Bigfoot ..
Oh, yeah and a chance to be on teeee-veeee ... Did anyone ever track down the kid who was ' freaked ' ? I wonder what his thoughts were 5 years later.. Oh, and don't forget, the nut-sack makes a nice purse .. For that reason alone, Bigfeets are in big demand... |
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27th May 2009, 10:34 AM | #247 |
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It's not clear to me that the boy has actually seen the figure yet when he announces that he is freaked and scared.
Lori: Get ready. Boy: Where? L: OK, where... see where the bush is? And then there's the small pine tree. He was right behind that small pine tree, right? B: I'm freaked... now. I'm scared. Presumably, during this particular exchange, the figure is not visible to either of them. |
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27th May 2009, 12:21 PM | #248 |
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Sweaty, your fervent desire to believe is staggering. Just watching the way your basic common sense is disarmed by this is comical. They see someone running around up on the hill which they think is weird. The concept of it being a Bigfoot is like a joke to them that they are entertaining together in a jovial manner after having some alcohol. You're so addled by footer logic that you can't hear the context in which "we could make a million bucks" is said followed by snickering. Your mind seems to have decided to blot out the part where they say...
"that's that wall tent up there. Probably where he's going to." *facepalm* I guess the little Bigfoot with baby was running to hide in the tent. You decided long ago that the MDF is a real little Bigfoot carrying around a littler Bigfoot and further encouraged by your communication with the Bigfoot enthralled grampa who was never there and encouraged by his family to think they really might have seen a Bigfoot. You see Bigfoot because you're a fanatic and your head is broken from absorbing anything contrary to your desperate belief.
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I can not believe you Sweaty. The memorial day footage is a piece of garbage. The costume in the mdf is a cheap, baggy gorilla suit. Please, Sweaty, point some things out that can not be faked
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1. Backpacks and sacks of all kinds are made of flexible material designed to change shape depending on the size, placement and shape of the objects contained within them.
2. I cannot discern any detail in the gif (numbered 1-4) that supposedly shows the object behaving in a non-backpack manner. It could be anything -- a backpack, a sack, a bundle of laundry, some unidentifiable mass made of supple, flexible material. What it definitely does not show is a baby because, last time I reviewed the malleability of infants, they were found to be relatively consistent in size and shape from moment to moment. 3. I reiterate that this video is completely absurd and useless as would-be evidence for bigfoot. The figure does not have any discernible details, let alone bigfoot-like details such as fur, and has been outpaced on video by an athletic runner, scuttling all claims as to "superhuman speed!" that had been previously made. 4. I'm wasting my time here and will not comment any further on the MDF. |
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Anyone with a grain of intelligence can see that it's a fake.Why are we discussing this? Answers on a postcard please to
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The wisdom of Diogenes.... "So far, I am not aware of any evidence which indicates with any degree of likeliness, however small, that Bigfoot creatures exist....anywhere in the world." tyr13: "There is no proof of bigfoot so there is no proof that bigfoot isn't a bear." |
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I know there is a lot of video noise here, but it looks to me like long baggy pants that cover the foot. I don't see any tapering of the calf to the foot. The ankle/foot area looks all wrong for a wild biped.
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I thought you might. I asked you a question you can't weasel out of so you leave.. not the first time.
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You know what's truly scary? People who see bigfoot (AND a baby foot no less) in this video are all around us....people who can't comprehend the possibility of a backpack being in the video, but have no trouble thinking it's likely an infant bigfoot....they make your food, they take care of your elderly parents, they drive on the same roads as you, they work on your car, drive your children to school, etc, and they vote too. That there is scarier than any smelly ol' bigfoot by far.
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I don't find it it as scary as the idea that Dr. Jeff Meldrum believes it's a Bigfoot with baby in tow ..
I really want to believe he's yanking a lot of chains.. |
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I thought you left. Did you get your bags?
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So I'll ask you again, who was wrong? I'll even add one in there; 1) Owen Pate 2) The LMS Crew 3) You I think all the answers are the same.
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I've already explained why I said what I said in this statement, blackdog...
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I haven't taken contradictory positions on the matter....because I haven't taken two positions on it. The only time I've made a meaningful, intentional statement about it, was when I said...."I think Owen probably saw a different adult Bigfoot than the one filmed". You're trying to attach meaning, and intention to that other statement of mine, that I never intended. |
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Here's what you've said on this thread;
What is your definition of it? The way I read what you wrote and the way most reasonable people ( I realize that excludes you) would read it is that you were referring to a singular subject. The subject being a singular bigfoot on the hill. Then you bring in Lori's dad to bolster your contention concerning the Pate's honesty and he backs the family plan, which you say you endorse here. You don't see any contradictions?
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Typical Sweaty. Intellectually dishonest people such as Sweaty like to present quotes of separate people with separate opinions as though it's a meaningful contradiction. Dafydd checks in and posts in passing that he thinks the video is obviously fake while Vort is not interested in the discussion any longer because he thinks there are no details that can reliably point towards Bigfoot and the video has no potential of being any kind of quality evidence for Bigfoot. You will want to attempt to quibble about dafydd using the word "fake" to allude that he thinks a Bigfoot suit is being worn and it's a deliberate hoax but what you don't know is whether he thinks that or that the video is simply being falsely suggested as Bigfoot by people who know it's not. In any event, the comment in passing and noting the dubiousness of the supposed Bigfoot video.
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My definition of "it"...... A long, long, time ago, "it" came into being.......and then, after a long, long, time...."it" was traded-in, after which...."it" was melted down, and re-made into a different kind of "it".....upon which...."it" was sold.
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That's exactly what you are doing, blackdog....psychically reading my intentions. I told you exactly what my intentions were, and were not....but you are assigning, psychically, certain intentions to me that I never had. That's a pretty desperate, and petty, tactic for you to resort to, in my opinion. Here is a simple 'yes' or 'no' question, that you WILL have a very difficult time answering....... Did I, in this statement of mine...
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And while you're there...don't miss the best exchange of all! It was jimf, I believe, who was posting some figures, concerning his analysis of "Bigfoot sighting reports" on the Bfro site....and blackdog was posting, also.....when I....cheerfully....chimed-in, and mentioned that there are...in addition to reported sightings...also unreported sightings. Well......what happened next was.....unexplainable......to say the least! I'll have to go back, and find blackdog's and jimf's reactions. They are "worth the trip" to go find, and read! |
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I will have a crack at this while BD is not around:
Sweaty likes to resort to attempts at sarcsm when he is ill-equiped to deal with difficult questions and arguments. When he does this with me and I just continue to try and discuss with him with the issue at stake while he runs around giggling.
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Thanks, BD but if I had the time to do that, I'd rather eat a sandpaper and tiger balm sandwich and after play some stick-the-wasabi-in-the-eyes. I've read more SweatyYeti/Coolfoot and going down memory lane in a place I can't respond isn't my idea of an interesting drive. More of a drag over hot coals.
Knock yourself out. Just don't post them here. Nobody cares, it's not on-topic, and we get all the Sweaty we need right here. |
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What the hell does that mean?
Honestly Sweaty, DON'T DO THE BROWN ACID!
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Go for it Sweetcheeks. First remember it will also show your insanity and also remember I owned you before and I'll do it again.
Does JimF post here? I didn't think so. I know he checks this place out though. How many more people do you need here to confirm that you're certifiable? |
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Originally Posted by SweatyYeti View Post
''In a VERY LARGE Universe (which is, for all practical purposes, limitless).....it's only people with very small minds who laugh at the possibilities of life outside of the Earth.'' So Bigfoot is an alien now? The words clutching,at and straws come to mind. |
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No thank you Sweaty. By carving up my quote I sense that it was your intention to admit that you were referring to the same creature Owen saw.
I understand you not wanting to actually admit it publicly but your intentions were clear. Hey maybe I am psychic, I just read your intentions! I should apply for the Randi Challenge. |
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That would be where (as here) you (again) got your a*se kicked. Your post is number #101 and obviously very easy to find (those were the days ).
I doubt you are smart enough, but a part of me thinks you are hoping a link may be made between a closing post of BD's, the way that thread ended and what's currently sitting under BD's avatar over there. |
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Hmmm... That's funny, you know, seeing as how both BD and myself immediately answered your above question with the all-cap prediction you made about difficulty answering it yet this one in return was apparently much more difficult:
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He won't answer because he knows we're right, his silence says all we need to know.
Thanks Sweaty, this is the first time I think I've I've ever seen you concede an argument. |
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Bump for Sweaty.
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And bumped again.
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Thanks.
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