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Old 13th September 2017, 11:39 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
There is an adviser to the Queen called Judge Adrian Fulford who believes the age of consent should be reduced to four years old.
He was involved with a group that was linked to a different group that believes that. A cause for some concern but not exactly the same thing. He denies believing that and was cleared after an investigation.
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Old 13th September 2017, 11:43 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post
Isn't this thread supposed to belong to the Religion and Philosophy subforum? I mean, they're obsessed with this topic over there.
Yet here everyone is debating with flat out baloney.
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Old 13th September 2017, 12:22 PM   #43
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And they're in power, doubtless.
If one happened to be elected, yes there would be another pedo in power.
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Old 13th September 2017, 12:30 PM   #44
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If one happened to be elected, yes there would be another pedo in power.
And? Why does anyone else's sexuality interest you? What difference does it make to their ability to contribute to the smooth running of the country?
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Old 13th September 2017, 12:37 PM   #45
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Flight logs have Bill Clinton 26 times aboard the “Lolita Express” owned by his pedo pal Jeffrey Epstein.

Wikipedia on Epstein:

In March 2005, a woman contacted Palm Beach, Florida police and alleged that her 14-year-old stepdaughter had been taken to Jeffrey Epstein's mansion by an older girl. There she was paid $300 to strip and massage Epstein.[11] She had undressed, but left the encounter wearing her underwear.[20]

Police started an 11-month undercover investigation of Epstein, followed by a search of his home. The FBI also became involved in the investigation.[9] Subsequently, the police alleged that Epstein had paid several escorts to perform sexual acts on him. Interviews with five alleged victims and 17 witnesses under oath, a high school transcript, and other items they found in Epstein's trash and home allegedly showed that some of the girls involved were under 18.[21] The police search of Epstein's home found large numbers of photos of girls throughout the house, some of whom the police had interviewed in the course of their investigation.[20]

The International Business Times reported that papers filed in a 2006 lawsuit alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls by prominent people for criminal purposes such as blackmail.[22] Epstein allegedly "loaned" girls to powerful people to ingratiate himself with them and also to gain possible blackmail information.[9] In 2015, evidence came to light that one of the powerful men at Epstein's mansion may have been Prince Andrew of the UK.[9]

A former employee told the police that Epstein would receive massages three times a day.[20] Eventually the FBI received accounts from about 40 girls whose allegations of molestation by Epstein included overlapping details.[
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
And? Why does anyone else's sexuality interest you? What difference does it make to their ability to contribute to the smooth running of the country?
This particular form of sexuality is illegal and often leads to conspiracies. A person in a position of power has more power to abuse.
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Originally Posted by abaddon View Post
Yet here everyone is debating with flat out baloney.
Do you mean scepticism is the notorious absentee here?
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Old 13th September 2017, 11:09 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
And? Why does anyone else's sexuality interest you? What difference does it make to their ability to contribute to the smooth running of the country?
For one thing, this:

Quote:
QUOTE by Imhotep
This particular form of sexuality is illegal and often leads to conspiracies. A person in a position of power has more power to abuse.

Well, criminal sexuality (pedos in power) should get a lot more attention.

Also I should have emphasized more the media under-reporting the crimes because that is about half or more of the problem. By definition, any media not reporting it is fake media.

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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
..........I should have emphasized more the media under-reporting the crimes because that is about half or more of the problem. By definition, any media not reporting it is fake media.
Crap. You do understand that unless the media have evidence they can defend in court that making such accusations leaves them open to being sued out of existence? Where they have such evidence, here at least they spread it all over the front pages.
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Was the thread's tittle written by a typical Biblebeltian? Certainly its sensitivity points that way "Pedophiles in power in Europe and hollywood(SIC)" ... yes, where the culture of degeneration comes from ... alleluia!
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Is this pride in one's ignorance a uniquely American thing?
It's what has made America great. And following the election of Trump it will MAGA.
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post
Was the thread's tittle written by a typical Biblebeltian? Certainly its sensitivity points that way "Pedophiles in power in Europe and hollywood(SIC)" ... yes, where the culture of degeneration comes from ... alleluia!
Hey, don't knock Hollywood, or free markets (as in, "serve the largest profitable market segments well"). That marvelous combo has given me well over a half century of nearly all-white world history, and wingnuts who now quote lines from movies as valid political points, replete with bobble-headed nodding. "If Dirty Harry said it, it is all good." How else am I supposed to get fancy CGI movies that today are helping to convince the jug-and-washboard crowd that angels and demons are for real, and Tarzan rode a T-Rex? It just doesn't get any better!
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Hey, don't knock Hollywood, or free markets (as in, "serve the largest profitable market segments well"). That marvelous combo has given me well over a half century of nearly all-white world history, and wingnuts who now quote lines from movies as valid political points, replete with bobble-headed nodding. "If Dirty Harry said it, it is all good." How else am I supposed to get fancy CGI movies that today are helping to convince the jug-and-washboard crowd that angels and demons are for real, and Tarzan rode a T-Rex? It just doesn't get any better!
Well, I can't certainly object of a President Reagan, but isn't Donald Trump really just a case of pedophilia and power? (Notice that I'm talking of pedo... from Latin peditum and not from Greek paidós...)
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Flight logs have Bill Clinton 26 times aboard the “Lolita Express” owned by his pedo pal Jeffrey Epstein.

Wikipedia on Epstein:

In March 2005, a woman contacted Palm Beach, Florida police and alleged that her 14-year-old stepdaughter had been taken to Jeffrey Epstein's mansion by an older girl. There she was paid $300 to strip and massage Epstein.[11] She had undressed, but left the encounter wearing her underwear.[20]

Police started an 11-month undercover investigation of Epstein, followed by a search of his home. The FBI also became involved in the investigation.[9] Subsequently, the police alleged that Epstein had paid several escorts to perform sexual acts on him. Interviews with five alleged victims and 17 witnesses under oath, a high school transcript, and other items they found in Epstein's trash and home allegedly showed that some of the girls involved were under 18.[21] The police search of Epstein's home found large numbers of photos of girls throughout the house, some of whom the police had interviewed in the course of their investigation.[20]

The International Business Times reported that papers filed in a 2006 lawsuit alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls by prominent people for criminal purposes such as blackmail.[22] Epstein allegedly "loaned" girls to powerful people to ingratiate himself with them and also to gain possible blackmail information.[9] In 2015, evidence came to light that one of the powerful men at Epstein's mansion may have been Prince Andrew of the UK.[9]

A former employee told the police that Epstein would receive massages three times a day.[20] Eventually the FBI received accounts from about 40 girls whose allegations of molestation by Epstein included overlapping details.[
Were children on those flights and did Clinton have sex with them? Did Bill Clinton know about Epstein's activities? If the cameras existed, where is the video?
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Old 15th September 2017, 02:04 PM   #55
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As for Adrian Fulford, the claim was investigated and found entirely without merit. Quelle surprise.
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Good point. This thread was misplaced. It should be in Politics, or Social Issues & Current Events.
It's in absolutely the correct forum.

It fits perfectly here because rather than a discussion of the facts including you describing in clear concise language what you perceive the importance of these allegations to be and the implications for society you only engage in JAQ'ing off.

As always in your threads, past the op, you attempt to portray your contributions along the lines of Me (bubba) and you (other poster) against the OP while not clearly stating why any of the flights of fancy you come up with are worthy of discussion. You can't engage in discussion if you are incapable of making any clear point on any aspect of the material under discussion.

Just so you know the difference between a clear point and ambiguous jive:

"Your dog is ugly". Is a clearly understood statement.

Your dog? Isn't.

When you eventually get to the point in your communication skills where we can understand that you have a dog and from a clear description from you can determine if it's worthy of discussion, any thread you post belongs right here.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
For one thing, this:




Well, criminal sexuality (pedos in power) should get a lot more attention.

Also I should have emphasized more the media under-reporting the crimes because that is about half or more of the problem. By definition, any media not reporting it is fake media.

Under-reporting versus what?
What's the incidence of child sex abuse vs. other crimes?
What's the percentage of child sex abuse incidents reported vs. other crimes?
By what media, in what country?

Here, I've left you a space to provide evidence for your claims:

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Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."

I am well aware there are pedophiles all over the place in the real world, but these obsessive, constant theories are just creepy to me. People need to get off the net more!

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The Dutch have had an actual pedophile political party called the Party for Neighbourly Love, Freedom, and Diversity. They want a legal sex age of 12.
FTFY. They tried to get on the ballot in 2006 and in 2010, but couldn't even get the required 30 signatures of support per district for that. They disbanded themselves in 2012. The party had personal links with the pro-paedophilia association Martijn which was disbanded by court order in 2014.
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I just had a small pizza, with Parmesan cheese sprinkled on top.
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Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."

I am well aware there are pedophiles all over the place in the real world, but these obsessive, constant theories are just creepy to me. People need to get off the net more!

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I just had a small pizza, with Parmesan cheese sprinkled on top.
You monster.
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Originally Posted by isissxn View Post
Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."

I am well aware there are pedophiles all over the place in the real world, but these obsessive, constant theories are just creepy to me. People need to get off the net more!

ETA - Especially thee, Bubba. Go outside!
It makes me wonder if a lot of those that see it everywhere are actullay the ones with the problem.
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Originally Posted by isissxn View Post
Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."

I am well aware there are pedophiles all over the place in the real world, but these obsessive, constant theories are just creepy to me. People need to get off the net more!

ETA - Especially thee, Bubba. Go outside!
Because, according to the CTer I used to speak to, "They" want to legalise Pedophilia (and Bestiality according to this Alan Watt guy) for some reason (never finished that video, because Watt went on about random things and I almost fell asleep, so.).
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Crimewatch host Jill Dando murdered, was about to expose big names on BBC, show canceled.
Show cancelled still running, 18 years later. Story falls apart in its first sentence.
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I didnt say I believe it.
Uh-huh...

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If one happened to be elected, yes there would be another pedo in power.
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Flight logs have Bill Clinton 26 times aboard the “Lolita Express” owned by his pedo pal Jeffrey Epstein.

Wikipedia on Epstein:

In March 2005, a woman contacted Palm Beach, Florida police and alleged that her 14-year-old stepdaughter had been taken to Jeffrey Epstein's mansion by an older girl. There she was paid $300 to strip and massage Epstein.[11] She had undressed, but left the encounter wearing her underwear.[20]

Police started an 11-month undercover investigation of Epstein, followed by a search of his home. The FBI also became involved in the investigation.[9] Subsequently, the police alleged that Epstein had paid several escorts to perform sexual acts on him. Interviews with five alleged victims and 17 witnesses under oath, a high school transcript, and other items they found in Epstein's trash and home allegedly showed that some of the girls involved were under 18.[21] The police search of Epstein's home found large numbers of photos of girls throughout the house, some of whom the police had interviewed in the course of their investigation.[20]

The International Business Times reported that papers filed in a 2006 lawsuit alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls by prominent people for criminal purposes such as blackmail.[22] Epstein allegedly "loaned" girls to powerful people to ingratiate himself with them and also to gain possible blackmail information.[9] In 2015, evidence came to light that one of the powerful men at Epstein's mansion may have been Prince Andrew of the UK.[9]

A former employee told the police that Epstein would receive massages three times a day.[20] Eventually the FBI received accounts from about 40 girls whose allegations of molestation by Epstein included overlapping details.[
I can't see anything in there relating to paedophilia. You do know what a paedophile is right?
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Show cancelled still running, 18 years later. Story falls apart in its first sentence.


Lol.
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Oh, please.
Definitely a bubba moment.
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Because, according to the CTer I used to speak to, "They" want to legalise Pedophilia (and Bestiality according to this Alan Watt guy) for some reason (never finished that video, because Watt went on about random things and I almost fell asleep, so.).
Oh, gawd. My dating-thing-person man LOVES that Alan Watts guy. I never stay awake either. It's my only defense!

I didn't realize old Watts went quite THAT hard. Wow.

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Oh, gawd. My dating-thing-person man LOVES that Alan Watts guy. I never stay awake either. It's my only defense!

I didn't realize old Watts went quite THAT hard. Wow.

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Checked my old CTer's YT account and after typing in "Pedophile" in the search bar, this popped-up:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE


This is the same video that used to be on his "Onder Koffer III" account (over the past 9 years, he had 17 accounts that got removed by Youtube. He told me that "payed trolls" were doing this (they got their money from "The Elite", or the CIA.), because "Copyright Infringement" doesn't exist in Trutherland.

For every single Alan Watt vid that he has posted on his channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAU...uery=Alan+Watt
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Because, according to the CTer I used to speak to, "They" want to legalise Pedophilia (and Bestiality according to this Alan Watt guy) for some reason (never finished that video, because Watt went on about random things and I almost fell asleep, so.).


What I want to know is, if there are so many pedos runnings the world, why was it ever made illegal in the first place? Hell, look at the history of child pornography:

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In the United States, the first federal law to ban the for-profit production and distribution of child pornography was the Protection of Children Against Sexual Exploitation Act of 1977

How the hell did all these Shadow Pedos ever let that happen?!?!
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Old 19th September 2017, 09:49 PM   #73
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
What I want to know is, if there are so many pedos runnings the world, why was it ever made illegal in the first place? Hell, look at the history of child pornography:




How the hell did all these Shadow Pedos ever let that happen?!?!
Yes, while controlling the world they could have made 'pedoism' a sacred act using the various religions. They seem to be a bunch of slackers.
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Old 19th September 2017, 10:30 PM   #74
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Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."

I am well aware there are pedophiles all over the place in the real world, but these obsessive, constant theories are just creepy to me. People need to get off the net more!

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I'm sure rings exist as do organized crime groups that profit for pedophilia. However, one would think that the vast majority of this people would keep it to themselves.
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Old 19th September 2017, 11:07 PM   #75
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Lol.

They probably meant the show she was going to put on ie an episode, aka a show.

That would be the same as what happened with the Franklin Conspiracy of Silence pedos episode on Discovery Channel. It was listed in TV Guide and was canceled on short notice

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That would be the same as what happened with the Franklin Conspiracy of Silence pedos episode on Discovery Channel. It was listed in TV Guide and was canceled on short notice
So, what is/was the "Franklin Conspiracy of Silence" episode? Do you know what it contained or are you just making more stuff up?

ETA: Given to whom I am responding, I certainly do not expect an answer!

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Originally Posted by isissxn View Post
Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."
To me it is more about the media not reporting when leaders etc are involved. Like in the video where cops mysteriously drop such investigations and say they were told to drop it. Corrupt media is as worrisome as the crime itself. Sufficient fake news can equal fake perception of world one lives in. North Korea for example. May as well be a form of mind control. Oh right, it is a form of mind control.
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So, what is/was the "Franklin Conspiracy of Silence" episode?

ETA: Given to whom I am responding, I certainly do not expect an answer!

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So adorable when you pretend to be helpless. Why didnt you turn to The Google? Or read this Thread? Post #22.


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Do you know what it contained or are you just making more stuff up?

Now you've stumped me as I dont make stuff up. No reason or need for that.

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So adorable when you pretend to be helpless. Why didnt you turn to The Google? Or read this Thread? Post #22.
Gee... a youtube video. The ultimate source of facts for people like you!

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No, you have simply never met a conspiracy theory that you did not fall in love with. You are not stumped, just incredibly remarkably naive about how the world actually works.

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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
To me it is more about the media not reporting when leaders etc are involved..........
Again, your perspective is warped. Here they absolutely do report it. There are ongoing enquiries into Edward heath (former prime minister) and Cyril Smith (former high profile MP), both as a result of stuff reported by newspapers. So, Bubba, you are lying.
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