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Old 19th September 2017, 04:36 AM   #121
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I didnt say I believe it.
Uh-huh...

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At Least 11 Mayors Accused Of Child Sex-Related Crimes Since 2016Photo of Peter HassonPeter Hasson d

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If one happened to be elected, yes there would be another pedo in power.
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Old 19th September 2017, 06:10 AM   #122
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Flight logs have Bill Clinton 26 times aboard the “Lolita Express” owned by his pedo pal Jeffrey Epstein.

Wikipedia on Epstein:

In March 2005, a woman contacted Palm Beach, Florida police and alleged that her 14-year-old stepdaughter had been taken to Jeffrey Epstein's mansion by an older girl. There she was paid $300 to strip and massage Epstein.[11] She had undressed, but left the encounter wearing her underwear.[20]

Police started an 11-month undercover investigation of Epstein, followed by a search of his home. The FBI also became involved in the investigation.[9] Subsequently, the police alleged that Epstein had paid several escorts to perform sexual acts on him. Interviews with five alleged victims and 17 witnesses under oath, a high school transcript, and other items they found in Epstein's trash and home allegedly showed that some of the girls involved were under 18.[21] The police search of Epstein's home found large numbers of photos of girls throughout the house, some of whom the police had interviewed in the course of their investigation.[20]

The International Business Times reported that papers filed in a 2006 lawsuit alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls by prominent people for criminal purposes such as blackmail.[22] Epstein allegedly "loaned" girls to powerful people to ingratiate himself with them and also to gain possible blackmail information.[9] In 2015, evidence came to light that one of the powerful men at Epstein's mansion may have been Prince Andrew of the UK.[9]

A former employee told the police that Epstein would receive massages three times a day.[20] Eventually the FBI received accounts from about 40 girls whose allegations of molestation by Epstein included overlapping details.[
I can't see anything in there relating to paedophilia. You do know what a paedophile is right?
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Old 19th September 2017, 07:10 AM   #123
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Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge View Post
Show cancelled still running, 18 years later. Story falls apart in its first sentence.


Lol.
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Old 19th September 2017, 07:53 AM   #124
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Oh, please.
Definitely a bubba moment.
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Old 19th September 2017, 02:35 PM   #125
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Because, according to the CTer I used to speak to, "They" want to legalise Pedophilia (and Bestiality according to this Alan Watt guy) for some reason (never finished that video, because Watt went on about random things and I almost fell asleep, so.).
Oh, gawd. My dating-thing-person man LOVES that Alan Watts guy. I never stay awake either. It's my only defense!

I didn't realize old Watts went quite THAT hard. Wow.

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Old 19th September 2017, 03:03 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by isissxn View Post
Oh, gawd. My dating-thing-person man LOVES that Alan Watts guy. I never stay awake either. It's my only defense!

I didn't realize old Watts went quite THAT hard. Wow.

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Checked my old CTer's YT account and after typing in "Pedophile" in the search bar, this popped-up:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE


This is the same video that used to be on his "Onder Koffer III" account (over the past 9 years, he had 17 accounts that got removed by Youtube. He told me that "payed trolls" were doing this (they got their money from "The Elite", or the CIA.), because "Copyright Infringement" doesn't exist in Trutherland.

For every single Alan Watt vid that he has posted on his channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAU...uery=Alan+Watt
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Old 19th September 2017, 06:55 PM   #127
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Originally Posted by tinribmancer View Post
Because, according to the CTer I used to speak to, "They" want to legalise Pedophilia (and Bestiality according to this Alan Watt guy) for some reason (never finished that video, because Watt went on about random things and I almost fell asleep, so.).


What I want to know is, if there are so many pedos runnings the world, why was it ever made illegal in the first place? Hell, look at the history of child pornography:

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In the United States, the first federal law to ban the for-profit production and distribution of child pornography was the Protection of Children Against Sexual Exploitation Act of 1977

How the hell did all these Shadow Pedos ever let that happen?!?!
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Old 19th September 2017, 09:49 PM   #128
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What I want to know is, if there are so many pedos runnings the world, why was it ever made illegal in the first place? Hell, look at the history of child pornography:




How the hell did all these Shadow Pedos ever let that happen?!?!
Yes, while controlling the world they could have made 'pedoism' a sacred act using the various religions. They seem to be a bunch of slackers.
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Old 19th September 2017, 10:30 PM   #129
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Originally Posted by isissxn View Post
Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."

I am well aware there are pedophiles all over the place in the real world, but these obsessive, constant theories are just creepy to me. People need to get off the net more!

ETA - Especially thee, Bubba. Go outside!
I'm sure rings exist as do organized crime groups that profit for pedophilia. However, one would think that the vast majority of this people would keep it to themselves.
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Old 19th September 2017, 11:07 PM   #130
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Show cancelled still running, 18 years later. Story falls apart in its first sentence.


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Lol.

They probably meant the show she was going to put on ie an episode, aka a show.

That would be the same as what happened with the Franklin Conspiracy of Silence pedos episode on Discovery Channel. It was listed in TV Guide and was canceled on short notice

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Old 19th September 2017, 11:14 PM   #131
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
That would be the same as what happened with the Franklin Conspiracy of Silence pedos episode on Discovery Channel. It was listed in TV Guide and was canceled on short notice
So, what is/was the "Franklin Conspiracy of Silence" episode? Do you know what it contained or are you just making more stuff up?

ETA: Given to whom I am responding, I certainly do not expect an answer!

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Old 19th September 2017, 11:21 PM   #132
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Originally Posted by isissxn View Post
Why are conspiracy theorists so utterly OBSESSED with finding pedophilia everywhere? I swear, as a concept, it shows up more than scary Jews. And always in the context of "rings."
To me it is more about the media not reporting when leaders etc are involved. Like in the video where cops mysteriously drop such investigations and say they were told to drop it. Corrupt media is as worrisome as the crime itself. Sufficient fake news can equal fake perception of world one lives in. North Korea for example. May as well be a form of mind control. Oh right, it is a form of mind control.
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Old 19th September 2017, 11:28 PM   #133
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Originally Posted by fromdownunder View Post
So, what is/was the "Franklin Conspiracy of Silence" episode?

ETA: Given to whom I am responding, I certainly do not expect an answer!

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So adorable when you pretend to be helpless. Why didnt you turn to The Google? Or read this Thread? Post #22.


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Do you know what it contained or are you just making more stuff up?

Now you've stumped me as I dont make stuff up. No reason or need for that.

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Old 19th September 2017, 11:36 PM   #134
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So adorable when you pretend to be helpless. Why didnt you turn to The Google? Or read this Thread? Post #22.
Gee... a youtube video. The ultimate source of facts for people like you!

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Now you've stumped me as I dont make stuff up. No reason or need for that.
No, you have simply never met a conspiracy theory that you did not fall in love with. You are not stumped, just incredibly remarkably naive about how the world actually works.

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Old 20th September 2017, 12:04 AM   #135
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To me it is more about the media not reporting when leaders etc are involved..........
Again, your perspective is warped. Here they absolutely do report it. There are ongoing enquiries into Edward heath (former prime minister) and Cyril Smith (former high profile MP), both as a result of stuff reported by newspapers. So, Bubba, you are lying.
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Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge View Post
Show cancelled still running, 18 years later. Story falls apart in its first sentence.
Still running, and the most likely place you will see some of the stars of the seventies, if they try and escape Operation Yew Tree...
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Old 20th September 2017, 04:11 AM   #137
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They probably meant the show she was going to put on ie an episode...
They probably pulled the whole idea out of their butts. There were a number of fairly outlandish theories about the murder at the time but it was only many years later when the Jimmy Saville story blew up that anyone decided to try to join those particular dots.

You don't suppress investigative journalism by killing one of a TV show's studio presenters. Presenters don't investigate stories. Each story they covered would be prepared and scripted by an assistant producer. The presenter just gets the script on the day. And in any case Crimewatch is not directly an investigative show. It publicises unsolved crimes in collaboration with the police and passes on any information received.

In other words the story is baseless innuendo which makes no sense at all.
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They probably pulled the whole idea out of their butts. There were a number of fairly outlandish theories about the murder at the time but it was only many years later when the Jimmy Saville story blew up that anyone decided to try to join those particular dots.

You don't suppress investigative journalism by killing one of a TV show's studio presenters. Presenters don't investigate stories. Each story they covered would be prepared and scripted by an assistant producer. The presenter just gets the script on the day. And in any case Crimewatch is not directly an investigative show. It publicises unsolved crimes in collaboration with the police and passes on any information received.

In other words the story is baseless innuendo which makes no sense at all.
I agree.

There were rumours of Dando uncovering some kind of sexual scandal at the BBC, just as there were rumours of a revenge attack for somebody arrested after a Crimewatch Appeal, or of Eastern European hit men, professional rivalry and the like. But we have to consider the following:

1) Crimewatch is not an investigation led program. It reenacts crimes to prompt viewers to call in with useful leads.
2) The scandals at the BBC are not about an organised ring of paedophiles but about a range of unsavoury allegations to which many people turned a blind eye, or covered over without reporting to the police.
3) If one was worried about a paedophile ring being exposed, surely one would target the newspapers and shows that were on high profile crusades against paedophiles before and after her murder? The News Of The World leaking the list of offenders for example?
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
What I want to know is, if there are so many pedos runnings the world, why was it ever made illegal in the first place? Hell, look at the history of child pornography:

How the hell did all these Shadow Pedos ever let that happen?!?!
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Yes, while controlling the world they could have made 'pedoism' a sacred act using the various religions. They seem to be a bunch of slackers.
Sounds alot like Kyoon's version of The Illuminati, doesn't it? They're just as inept as them.
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There is an interesting opinion about all this on YouTube by Putin which makes sense to me. He doesn't specifically mention Hollywood. Personally, I think it's a failure of the mainstream media to do some useful and pointed criticism about the matter probably because many people have immunity from prosecution. It always annoyed me that Nancy Krebs was never believed in the JonBenet Ramsey case. She was described as a fruitloop and mentally ill by the Californian police.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERs_w7hgYBk
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What I want to know is, if there are so many pedos runnings the world, why was it ever made illegal in the first place?
Maybe they're greedy and want all the kiddies for themselves. Maybe it just gets dull after the first few hundred years and the only thrill left is transgressing the law and getting away with it. Maybe it's a combination of both: the worldwide cabal of above-the-law paedos make it illegal simply to prevent upstart paedo groups forming and eventually competing with them for power.
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Bubba's Discovery Channel show is probably in the same locked vault as the show where Tony Szamboti saw Larry Silverstein admit to blowing up the World Trade Center.


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There is an interesting opinion about all this on YouTube by Putin which makes sense to me. He doesn't specifically mention Hollywood. Personally, I think it's a failure of the mainstream media to do some useful and pointed criticism about the matter probably because many people have immunity from prosecution. It always annoyed me that Nancy Krebs was never believed in the JonBenet Ramsey case. She was described as a fruitloop and mentally ill by the Californian police.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERs_w7hgYBk
A youtube video? Horrors ! Rank and file will not see.
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Again, your perspective is warped. Here they absolutely do report it. There are ongoing enquiries into Edward heath (former prime minister) and Cyril Smith (former high profile MP), both as a result of stuff reported by newspapers. So, Bubba, you are lying.

Now that is good to know, thanks! I stand corrected. I think it was mentioned among others, in the OP video which, alas, is on the disregarded worthless and reviled youTube mind control system of the naive gullible cranky crackpot viewership. Fortunately no self respecting member will see it.

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A youtube video? Horrors ! Rank and file will not see.
Video was better than I expected. I enjoy that sort of subversive humor. Rather like the Onion or the better articles on Something Awful.
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
There is an interesting opinion about all this on YouTube by Putin which makes sense to me. He doesn't specifically mention Hollywood. Personally, I think it's a failure of the mainstream media to do some useful and pointed criticism about the matter probably because many people have immunity from prosecution. It always annoyed me that Nancy Krebs was never believed in the JonBenet Ramsey case. She was described as a fruitloop and mentally ill by the Californian police.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERs_w7hgYBk
Thanks for an informative item! Got more?

While Hollywood is certainly important, world leaders seem far more important. Good if true what it said about Putin naming names of elite pedo leaders, and good point about which leaders have remained silent and why.

If only it were not one of those silly youtube videos, others could see. !

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Gee... a youtube video. The ultimate source of facts for people like you!


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Video was better than I expected. I enjoy that sort of subversive humor. Rather like the Onion or the better articles on Something Awful.

Which video ? In post #1, or 22, or 85 ?
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Which video ? In post #1, or 22, or 85 ?
Any video you or mcphee links.
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Sounds alot like Kyoon's version of The Illuminati, doesn't it? They're just as inept as them.
Its odd isn't comparing real repressive organizations to the cartoon ones that CT make up.
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You'd best not look then.
I won't. I would be more interested in what you have to say, but you never have anything to say. All you ever do is post links.

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At the risk of being suspended on this forum, which does not like controversy, there is more stuff on You Tube about pedophiles in Hollywood.

I suppose many people on this forum are too young to remember, but there used to be a famous comedian called Bob Hope. He used to have the knack of telling a joke, which is a bit unusual nowadays, and he was an MC/comedian at the Oscars for many years. The thing is since he died in about 2003 there have been many books and rumors which suggest he was similar to the famous DJ Jimmy Savile in the UK in his child sex activities. There are also allegations against Spielberg which I confess I know nothing about.
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At the risk of being suspended on this forum, which does not like controversy, there is more stuff on You Tube about pedophiles in Hollywood.

I suppose many people on this forum are too young to remember, but there used to be a famous comedian called Bob Hope. He used to have the knack of telling a joke, which is a bit unusual nowadays, and he was an MC/comedian at the Oscars for many years. The thing is since he died in about 2003 there have been many books and rumors which suggest he was similar to the famous DJ Jimmy Savile in the UK in his child sex activities. There are also allegations against Spielberg which I confess I know nothing about.
Name 3 of these books, please.
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Name 3 of these books, please.
The book Full Service:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ood-golden-age

...but how believable is it?
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
At the risk of being suspended on this forum, which does not like controversy, there is more stuff on You Tube about pedophiles in Hollywood.

I suppose many people on this forum are too young to remember, but there used to be a famous comedian called Bob Hope. He used to have the knack of telling a joke, which is a bit unusual nowadays, and he was an MC/comedian at the Oscars for many years. The thing is since he died in about 2003 there have been many books and rumors which suggest he was similar to the famous DJ Jimmy Savile in the UK in his child sex activities. There are also allegations against Spielberg which I confess I know nothing about.
Controversy is cool, we just like evidence to go along with it. You can rail against Jimmy Savile or Roman Polanski all day and night here and no one will say they didn't commit crimes. You could probably do the same with Bill Cosby if you liked. But you want to come at Bob Hope you better come with something strong.
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Old 22nd September 2017, 08:15 AM   #156
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This subject interests me because I think it's relevant to the JonBenet Ramsey murder. Fleet White's father used to arrange these wild parties in California. I think Fleet White Jr carried it on in conjunction with Lockheed Martin when he moved to Colorado. Fleet White has immunity from prosecution and immunity from criticism.

The Hollywood director Stanley Kubrick has mentioned these pedophile parties and secret societies, including Bob Hope, in the past and there is controversy about his death which was the same year as he made a controversial film about the matter, which I think starred Nicole Kidman in 1999.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EneQ6T32aJc

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Old 22nd September 2017, 08:27 AM   #157
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Originally Posted by Civet View Post
Controversy is cool, we just like evidence to go along with it. You can rail against Jimmy Savile or Roman Polanski all day and night here and no one will say they didn't commit crimes. You could probably do the same with Bill Cosby if you liked. But you want to come at Bob Hope you better come with something strong.
There is a bit about Bob Hope at this You Tube video:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=emIrEUdpUTc
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Old 22nd September 2017, 08:44 AM   #158
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Yeah, that's some complete bollocks there, Henri. Conspiracy theorists. Ever heard of them?

He's made the entire case against Bob Hope, which you seem to have swallowed, based on a mask worn by someone in Eyes Wide Shut by Kubrick. This is Kyoon's territory. You can do better.
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Yeah, that's some complete bollocks there, Henri. Conspiracy theorists. Ever heard of them?

He's made the entire case against Bob Hope, which you seem to have swallowed, based on a mask worn by someone in Eyes Wide Shut by Kubrick. This is Kyoon's territory. You can do better.
Good lord, is this what conspiracy theories have sunk to? Back in my day, even a journeyman CTer would have a good 45 minutes of rubbish in a video. Bunches of video clips from different movies with hidden messages. Maybe an interview with Ted Gunderson. That clip was just lazy. Alex Jones would just be shaking his head in disgust.
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Old 22nd September 2017, 11:42 AM   #160
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60s and 70s news reports, vaccines

On their homepage it appears that Aaron and Melissa Dykes have been digging in various areas. Here is one item they produced

60s and 70s govt/news reports, vaccines.

Quote:
Back in 1971, they just admitted vaccines were ineffective and even that some had cancer viruses in them… right on the nightly news.
Footage here

http://truthstreammedia.com/2017/05/...ted-news-1971/
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