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Old 25th September 2017, 08:59 AM   #241
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Who placed the Mystery Rocks of Saskatchewan?

Doesnt look like nature's work. Burial mound, maybe.

http://ryanwunsch.com/mystery-rocks-saskatchewan/
It's a Roman road.

In your next thread, you should explore how the Romans ever got to Canada.
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Old 25th September 2017, 09:59 AM   #242
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Originally Posted by ddt View Post
It's a Roman road.

In your next thread, you should explore how the Romans ever got to Canada.
They followed the roman road.
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Old 25th September 2017, 10:19 AM   #243
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Who placed the Mystery Rocks of Saskatchewan?

Doesnt look like nature's work. Burial mound, maybe.

http://ryanwunsch.com/mystery-rocks-saskatchewan/
It looks natrual to me, an outcrop of rock that tends to fracture into rectangular blocks. Even if man-made, so what?
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Old 25th September 2017, 11:47 AM   #244
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
You are ill informed.
I am not. Pedophilia is kind of a sore spot for me, and those stories stand out.

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You need to do some research about the matter and not just get your information from Fox News.
I don't watch a lot of Fox News, but you seem to be their target audience.

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Personally I think all this is connected to the murder of JonBenet Ramsey and the abduction of Madeleine McCann in Portugal
This is delusional. Have you ever seen a map or a globe?

The Ramsey case boils down to a handful of suspects: The mother, a security guard at the father's office, and maybe the brother.

The McCann case happened at a resort in a country where the cops are sub par.

In both cases nobody knows what happened beyond a murder and a kidnapping. Everything else is speculation.

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The problems victims of pedophilia have is that they can end up dead, as well as being accused of being mentally ill, and not being listened to.
In that order?

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There is a long list of suspicious deaths connected to the Clinton family which also appear to be associated with drug smuggling.
If you knew how unpopular the Clintons were with a few branches of Federal and State law enforcement agencies then you'd know there's a small army of men and women wearing badges hoping to nail them to the wall.

Our last FBI director was one of them.

So if this was true they'd be in prison now.

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It's a bit like Mexico with police inaction. Investigative journalists and others have ended up dead or had suspicious suicides.
It's NOTHING like Mexico, a place where human trafficking of children for sex is industry.

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There are strong suspicions that American Presidents have been pedophiles
Name one.

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though to his credit I don't suspect Trump of that, for all his faults and racial problems.
And here you demonstrate a political bias that creates a YUGE blind spot.

Trump bragged about walking into the Miss Teen USA pageant dressing room specifically to see the UNDER AGED GIRLS NUDE.

Then there is the allegation that he raped a 13 year old:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...awsuits-230647

She then received death threats and dropped the plans for a lawsuit:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2855631

Please don't think of yourself as a crusader for justice.
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Old 25th September 2017, 12:09 PM   #245
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
Imagine yourself to be a stupid person, and then ask that again.
Sorry. My imagination does not suffice to the proposed task, and a frontal lobotomy seems contra-indicated in this circumstance.
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Old 25th September 2017, 12:34 PM   #246
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Trump bragged about walking into the Miss Teen USA pageant dressing room specifically to see the UNDER AGED GIRLS NUDE.
I knew Trump was a piece of scum, but this... this is new to me.
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Old 25th September 2017, 12:37 PM   #247
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Miss Terri Rox of Saskatchewan is both a wonder of nature, and thoroughly man-made, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
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Old 25th September 2017, 01:13 PM   #248
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I love the casualy thrown-in "the batteries mysteriously went dead!" thing. Perfectly done, technically it's not claiming anything so they can just shrug at any criticism.

Originally Posted by CORed View Post
Even if man-made, so what?
I guess that depends on how interested you are in history or archaeology or whatever. It could, potentially, be an interesting thing if man-made. Not that I'm convinced it is.
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Old 25th September 2017, 02:54 PM   #249
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Originally Posted by ddt View Post
It's a Roman road.

In your next thread, you should explore how the Romans ever got to Canada.
maybe they rode with the vikings
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Old 25th September 2017, 03:01 PM   #250
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Originally Posted by sts60 View Post
Normally, Bubba's passive-aggressive JAQing exercises are merely a little funny, as he mindlessly regurgitates yet another idiot conspiracist site or video and pretends that this time he's just honestly interested, not all-in credulous and willfully gullible and determinedly ignorant.

Normally.
It's starting to look like Bubba might actually take anti-vax nonsense seriously. This is indeed unfortunate, as, unlike most conspiracy theories, anti-vax crap may lead you to do something extremely stupid and dangerous, like refusing to have your children vaccinated. As far as I'm concerned people spreading this nonsense are morally, if not legally, guilty of murder.
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Old 25th September 2017, 03:35 PM   #251
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Originally Posted by Dancing David View Post
maybe they rode with the vikings
Rowed the road, and rode with the Vikings, you mean.
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Old 25th September 2017, 04:18 PM   #252
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Originally Posted by SOdhner View Post
I love the casualy thrown-in "the batteries mysteriously went dead!" thing. Perfectly done, technically it's not claiming anything so they can just shrug at any criticism.



I guess that depends on how interested you are in history or archaeology or whatever. It could, potentially, be an interesting thing if man-made. Not that I'm convinced it is.
It would be interesting in historical/archological sense if man-made, but probably not evidence of unknown advanced civilizations, aliens or any such nonsense. If those rectangularish boulders were oriented vertically, I'd be a bit more inclined to think they were part of an old wall (though they could still be natural). As they are, they don't look to me like anything but a bit of exposed bedrock with an interesting (but not too unusual) fracture pattern.
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Old 25th September 2017, 04:28 PM   #253
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It's starting to look like Bubba might actually take anti-vax nonsense seriously. This is indeed unfortunate, as, unlike most conspiracy theories, anti-vax crap may lead you to do something extremely stupid and dangerous, like refusing to have your children vaccinated. As far as I'm concerned people spreading this nonsense are morally, if not legally, guilty of murder.
Thank you, the anti-vac movement makes me feel rage. Where I live has been called "the most liberal town in California", and anti-vaccers are abundant. I have had many discussions and a few arguments on the subject.

My little 10 year old GD, was born with a cyst on her brain, she has seizures, has to wear a helmet to protect her head, and her immune system is not functioning well, so she comes down with every thing.
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Old 25th September 2017, 05:05 PM   #254
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I love the casualy thrown-in "the batteries mysteriously went dead!" thing. Perfectly done, technically it's not claiming anything so they can just shrug at any criticism.
Batteries going dead is never mysterious. It's when they keep working at critical times that's bizzarre.
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Originally Posted by tinribmancer View Post
I knew Trump was a piece of scum, but this... this is new to me.
Here you go:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/q...changing-vgtrn

Here he boasted:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7357866.html

He has referred to his daughter Ivanka as a "great piece of A**".
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Old 25th September 2017, 07:08 PM   #256
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Originally Posted by Dancing David View Post
maybe they rode with the vikings
I don't think the Romans ever got that far north.

But if they ever got to Ireland, they may have tagged along with St. Brendan.
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It's a Roman road.

In your next thread, you should explore how the Romans ever got to Canada.
They went with the Jews. See the Book of Mormon.
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There are strong suspicions that American Presidents have been pedophiles...

There are also strong suspicions that vaccines cause autism, man never landed on the moon and that the earth is flat.

I think it's wise to look at who's being strongly suspicious and, more to the point, what evidence there is for these suspicions beyond the hopelessly useless 'He denied it, therefore it must be true' that seems to be your stock-in-trade.
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
Here you go:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/q...changing-vgtrn

Here he boasted:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7357866.html

He has referred to his daughter Ivanka as a "great piece of A**".
Thanks. I do remember the Ivanka thing. I also remember what he said on that talkshow (think it was a talkshow) that he would do Ivanka if it wasn't his daughter (they showed this on the news last year)...
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
The Ramsey case boils down to a handful of suspects: The mother, a security guard at the father's office, and maybe the brother.

The McCann case happened at a resort in a country where the cops are sub par.

In both cases nobody knows what happened beyond a murder and a kidnapping. Everything else is speculation.

Name one.
That's just your opinion. It's patently untrue and a load of bollocks. It's you who needs help. It seems you have been damaged by your child abuse experiences.

I'll name one. President Bush. They don't like publicity about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQFCGdwGaLk

There is now more and more evidence that Edward Heath in the UK was a pedophile. There was an article about it in last Sunday's Mail on Sunday newspaper.
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... Personally I think all this is connected to the murder of JonBenet Ramsey and the abduction of Madeleine McCann in Portugal...
Can you be any less vague about what exactly you mean by "all this"? What imagined controlling hand do you believe connects the killing of an American girl in the 1990s with the disappearance of a British girl in Portugal more than a decade later?

Have you considered that you might have been watching too many movies?
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There is now more and more evidence that Edward Heath in the UK was a pedophile. There was an article about it in last Sunday's Mail on Sunday newspaper.
That is ribticklingly funny.

There's more evidence of a scary conspiracy.
Where did you find this evidence?
There's an article in the Mail.

I need a lie down and a cup of tea after that.
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They don't like publicity about it.
How strong an indicator of guilt do you think that is?

What's your rationale? That the innocent have nothing to fear, so why would they object to people trying to link them to paedophilia?
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Wasn't there a thread in the past about rocks that someone claimed were actually dragon scales?

Here are some more pillars - actually quite common. And this one has a road through it!

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There is now more and more evidence that Edward Heath in the UK was a pedophile. There was an article about it in last Sunday's Mail on Sunday newspaper.
Which puts it on the same standing as a Richard Littlejohn column?

Lets note some key facts:
1) The inquiry made the news in recent days, not because of shocking new evidence, but because the officer in charge of the investigation admitted it was a mistake to announce the investigation on Heath's front door.

2) The Daily Mail itself reported that Operation Conifer was a "complete waste of time" in August.

3) The Daily Mail itself reported in March that the investigation was to be closed down, with no worthwhile results, costing too much money.

These are all headlines easy to find on the Mail Online.

4) The Mail itself should probably not be casting stones. Despite its outraged headlines, the Mail and Mail Online are well known for their Sidebar Of Shame, and the Private Eye has been covering their willingness to comment on the young and pretty, for years (coverage of Emma Watson and Charlotte Church spring to mind as notorious picture headlines).
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Which puts it on the same standing as a Richard Littlejohn column?

Lets note some key facts:
1) The inquiry made the news in recent days, not because of shocking new evidence, but because the officer in charge of the investigation admitted it was a mistake to announce the investigation on Heath's front door.

2) The Daily Mail itself reported that Operation Conifer was a "complete waste of time" in August.

3) The Daily Mail itself reported in March that the investigation was to be closed down, with no worthwhile results, costing too much money.

These are all headlines easy to find on the Mail Online.

4) The Mail itself should probably not be casting stones. Despite its outraged headlines, the Mail and Mail Online are well known for their Sidebar Of Shame, and the Private Eye has been covering their willingness to comment on the young and pretty, for years (coverage of Emma Watson and Charlotte Church spring to mind as notorious picture headlines).
Yes, the Daily Fail wrings it's prurient hands over the sexualisation of youth while at the same time sexualising youth.

Back to topic, at least one of Ted Heaths false accusers seems to be heading for prosecution.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ophile-claims/
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That's just your opinion. It's patently untrue and a load of bollocks. It's you who needs help. It seems you have been damaged by your child abuse experiences.

I'll name one. President Bush. They don't like publicity about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQFCGdwGaLk

There is now more and more evidence that Edward Heath in the UK was a pedophile. There was an article about it in last Sunday's Mail on Sunday newspaper.
I haven't seen anyone trot out Cathy O'Brien in a long time. What makes you believe her claims?
What evidence is there against Edward Heath?
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That is ribticklingly funny.

There's more evidence of a scary conspiracy.
Where did you find this evidence?
There's an article in the Mail.

I need a lie down and a cup of tea after that.
It's no good being absurdly credulous about this matter. There was an article about Edward Heath in the Sunday Mail last Sunday. This is how it starts:

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Child abuse claims made against Sir Edward Heath by seven of his alleged victims are serious enough that police would have questioned him under caution if he were still alive............
There was an earlier article about the matter in a Daily Mail article on 18 February 2017:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ice-chief.html
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
It's no good being absurdly credulous about this matter. There was an article about Edward Heath in the Sunday Mail last Sunday. This is how it starts:



There was an earlier article about the matter in a Daily Mail article on 18 February 2017:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ice-chief.html
And here is a more recent article from the Daily Fail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tic-waste.html
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
That's just your opinion. It's patently untrue and a load of bollocks. It's you who needs help. It seems you have been damaged by your child abuse experiences.

I'll name one. President Bush. They don't like publicity about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQFCGdwGaLk

There is now more and more evidence that Edward Heath in the UK was a pedophile. There was an article about it in last Sunday's Mail on Sunday newspaper.
you do know that even wikipedia don't believe the mail, don't you?

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ce-for-website
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And here again
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...se-appeal.html

The Daily Fail seems to have a split personality.
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And here again
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...se-appeal.html

The Daily Fail seems to have a split personality.

No, it's just very aware of its target audience and that those to whom it is preaching hate have no trouble with, or even concept of, cognitive dissonance.
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A nice article about the Crazy Mail:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Daily_Mail

Holy ****, they're Anti-everything!
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Old 26th September 2017, 08:47 AM   #274
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No, it's just very aware of its target audience and that those to whom it is preaching hate have no trouble with, or even concept of, cognitive dissonance.
Yeah, it's funny to observe how the cost of the wasted, pointless "investigation" gets inflated by the DM. £1m, £1.5m, £2m, which is it? At the same time, the DM claims the unfounded accusations as fact and a reason that any amount of money should be flung at it.

Not to mention that the fantasist "Nick" has his head on the chopping block and Veale will have no qualms about throwing that guy under the bus to save his own skin.

As if this were not bad enough, we are treated to the claim that "yournewswire" is some kind of reliable source. Who buys into that pit of nonsense?
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So are pedophiles in power or not?
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Old 26th September 2017, 09:00 AM   #276
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
So are pedophiles in power or not?
Yes and no. Sometimes maybe.
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Old 26th September 2017, 09:05 AM   #278
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Who placed the Mystery Rocks of Saskatchewan?

Doesnt look like nature's work. Burial mound, maybe.

http://ryanwunsch.com/mystery-rocks-saskatchewan/
That is nature's work, not done by man. This is sandstone and was once an ancient riverbed. Most of the erosion here was done by the rushing water, with the most obvious being the near-perfect cylinder holes. Some erosion happened after it was no longer a riverbed and became exposed on the surface as we see now. This would be accomplished now by rain and wind.

It looks man-made with design but it isn't. Everything there is explained by natural erosion of an an ancient quartz sediment (sandstone) plateau.
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Old 26th September 2017, 10:38 AM   #279
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That is nature's work, not done by man. This is sandstone and was once an ancient riverbed. Most of the erosion here was done by the rushing water, with the most obvious being the near-perfect cylinder holes. Some erosion happened after it was no longer a riverbed and became exposed on the surface as we see now. This would be accomplished now by rain and wind.

It looks man-made with design but it isn't. Everything there is explained by natural erosion of an an ancient quartz sediment (sandstone) plateau.
I suggested limestone. Someone else said granite. You say sandstone. Is there any way of checking? Is there a publicly available geological survey map of the area?
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Old 26th September 2017, 10:41 AM   #280
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Man, if I was a pedophile, AND I ruled the world, I would change the rules so paedophilia wasn't, you know, illegal...
Then where's the fun?

That's why the elites like to leave coded symbols everywhere - it's more fun if it's illegal and you can get a second set of jollies when the sheeple can't decode the clues hidden in plain sight.
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