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Old 30th September 2017, 01:46 PM   #281
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The guy in that video is clearly mentally disturbed. And obsessed with pedophilia rings, shocker.

I truly can't comprehend how anyone could find any facet of it convincing evidence for anything, apart from its creator's lascivious fixations and bug-poo insanity.
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Old 30th September 2017, 08:48 PM   #282
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Allegedly, FAA flight logs have Bill Clinton aboard Epstein's "Lolita Express" as many as 26 times.

(from google search.....bill clinton 26 times on epstein's flight log )

fox news said:

Clinton’s presence aboard Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727 on 11 occasions has been reported, but flight logs show the number is more than double that, and trips between 2001 and 2003 included extended junkets around the world with Epstein and fellow passengers identified on manifests by their initials or first names, including “Tatiana.” The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.
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Old 30th September 2017, 09:27 PM   #283
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More Merry Martian Mischief

Just for fun.

Four Rover pics catch shadow of Martian Mechanic during Curiosity's annual brake job and wheel alignment

Hilarious however how it looks like the 'man's legs' are standing straight, then crouching, bent at knees. I wonder what it actually is, causing the shadow.

http://ewao.com/2016/06/02/nasas-cur...ian-astronaut/
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Old 30th September 2017, 11:52 PM   #284
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Just for fun.

Four Rover pics catch shadow of Martian Mechanic during Curiosity's annual brake job and wheel alignment

Hilarious however how it looks like the 'man's legs' are standing straight, then crouching, bent at knees. I wonder what it actually is, causing the shadow.

http://ewao.com/2016/06/02/nasas-cur...ian-astronaut/
Nope! Make a 3D model of the Curiosity Rover in EVERY detail. Place the sun in the same place overhead to generate the appropriate shadow and then get back to me ...
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Old 1st October 2017, 12:00 AM   #285
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Allegedly, FAA flight logs have Bill Clinton aboard Epstein's "Lolita Express" as many as 26 times.

(from google search.....bill clinton 26 times on epstein's flight log )

fox news said:

Clinton’s presence aboard Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727 on 11 occasions has been reported, but flight logs show the number is more than double that, and trips between 2001 and 2003 included extended junkets around the world with Epstein and fellow passengers identified on manifests by their initials or first names, including “Tatiana.” The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.
You make a claim about FAA logs, then quote something that is not an FAA log. Let’s first establish if your claim is even plausible:

What information about the flights will the FAA logs hold? The bed? The girls? Any information relevant to alleged sexual acts at all?
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Old 1st October 2017, 12:41 AM   #286
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
The point is that if Macron, or Edouard de Rothschild in France were pedophiles it might affect their policies towards adults. They might only be sexually attracted to children between five and eleven.
More baseless witch-hunting. If they were paedophiles, they would be paedophiles. No _ _ _ _, Sherlock. Do you have any evidence, or are you just mud-slinging?
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There was a paedophile scandal a few years ago involving Lord Robertson, a Scot with a senior position in Nato at the time. That was a position of influence and he resigned:

www.rense.com/general89/brownpd.htm
No, there wasn't, and no, he didn't.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/23/wo...bertson&st=nyt
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Old 1st October 2017, 02:46 AM   #288
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Henri, you appear to be eagerly quoting every baseless, ******** witchhunt claim you can find. Is it actually your plan to cry wolf so many times that everyone ceases to believe child molesters even exist?
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Old 1st October 2017, 04:13 AM   #289
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Yeah was going to say about Lord Robertson, he was a typical Scottish Labour machine politician and I couldn't stand him. However in the goldfish bowl that is Scottish politics if there had been even a whiff of this kind of scandal we would all have heard about it (all being any Scot with any interest in politics). I never had until Henri crawled out from under whichever stone he was lurking under this week.
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Old 1st October 2017, 07:48 AM   #290
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Bubba, your constant Just Asking Questions posts have become extremely tiresome. I wish you would stop.
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Shouldn't this be in humour?

Not because it's funny, but where else could silly stuff go.
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Old 1st October 2017, 11:10 AM   #292
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I'm not interested in regurgitation of some ignorant crackpot's claim. How about skipping the JAQ routine just once? Are you capable of doing that?

What do you claim it is, if not the rover?
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Old 1st October 2017, 11:33 AM   #293
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Old 1st October 2017, 11:48 AM   #294
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Originally Posted by sts60 View Post
I'm not interested in regurgitation of some ignorant crackpot's claim. How about skipping the JAQ routine just once? Are you capable of doing that?

What do you claim it is, if not the rover?

What questions?

No questions seen in OP. Two seen in your post though.

I would not claim it is anything other than a trick of light and shadow which happens to vaguely resemble a person standing and then crouching a little.

Relax, Just for fun, as the OP's first sentence says.

Note the non-question at end of OP:

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I wonder what it actually is, causing the shadow.
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Old 1st October 2017, 12:19 PM   #295
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Playboy magazine? Who knew?

...a paper by Judith A. Reisman, PhD: Playboy's Child Centerfolds and Child Playmates

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The Injurious ‘Four-Fold’ Design to Eroticize Girl Children

The following analysis addresses the use of the child in Playboy’s sexual milieu. A “centerfold” was a picture on a sheet of paper that was inserted into the middle of a publication. The original July 1977 Playboy“biography” displayed three little girl photos below a childish “handwritten” page. Turning the page, one saw the naked Centerfold along side her child photos, automatically eroticizing the girl child--hence girl children as a “class.” However, in recent times Playboy introduced a four-foldout centerfold. This new fold allows the child’s photos to open up over the lower body of her naked Playmate self.
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Playboy magazine? Who knew?

...a paper by Judith A. Reisman, PhD: Playboy's Child Centerfolds and Child Playmates
Reisman, a crank who writes for WorldNutDaily. Sure.
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Old 1st October 2017, 12:54 PM   #297
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
The point is that if Macron, or Edouard de Rothschild in France were pedophiles it might affect their policies towards adults. They might only be sexually attracted to children between five and eleven.

There was a paedophile scandal a few years ago involving Lord Robertson, a Scot with a senior position in Nato at the time. That was a position of influence and he resigned:

www.rense.com/general89/brownpd.htm
Except that it isn't true and rense is a crackpot site.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
What questions?

No questions seen in OP.

Plus some more words...
Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
And yet more words...

I wonder what it actually is, causing the shadow.

Just because you are question mark challenged doesn't mean it's not a question...
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Old 1st October 2017, 01:00 PM   #299
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Playboy magazine? Who knew?

...a paper by Judith A. Reisman, PhD: Playboy's Child Centerfolds and Child Playmates
Question marks. No doubt this time you're asking questions.
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And yet more words...

I wonder what it actually is, causing the shadow.
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Just because you are question mark challenged doesn't mean it's not a question...
Here's one for ya


Could it be Rover parts?
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Do think that's more likely than a Martian mechanic?
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Old 1st October 2017, 01:12 PM   #302
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Reisman, a crank who writes for WorldNutDaily. Sure.

Why get all ad hominem?

The images and quotes she presents tell their own story. What's that term for not looking at data ? I dont know, maybe its something like shooting the messenger.

(not saying you did not look, btw)

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Why get all ad hominem when images and quotes tell their own story?

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The term for not looking at data that wasn't linked is ... please post a link?
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The term for not looking at data that wasn't linked is ... please post a link?
Ooops, sorry, my bad. But there is the google

I think some of what she says is just common sense, about encouraging behavior/tendencies, true no matter who delivers the message.


https://www.scribd.com/doc/33663207/...hild-Playmates
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Do think that's more likely than a Martian mechanic?
It must be a Martian, because it seems to be about three feet tall.

Here is the Rover in relation to humans:

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Do think that's more likely than a Martian mechanic?

Of course
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Just because you are question mark challenged doesn't mean it's not a question...
In fact "I wonder what it actually is" is not a question, it is a positive statement that Bubba wonders what something is. The question would be "what is the thing he is wondering about?" But "I wonder ... " doesn't need a question mark.
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Ooops, sorry, my bad. But there is the google

I think some of what she says is just common sense, about encouraging behavior/tendencies, true no matter who delivers the message.


https://www.scribd.com/doc/33663207/...hild-Playmates
Wow. That woman needs help.
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Sounded questioning to me. But I don't speak Bubbese any better than I understand Kumarese.
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Commonly "I wonder..." statements elicit responses similar to responses elicited by actual questions.

Comin after me? On Sunday? Should I lawyer up?
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What questions?

No questions seen in OP. Two seen in your post though.

I would not claim it is anything other than a trick of light and shadow which happens to vaguely resemble a person standing and then crouching a little.

Relax, Just for fun, as the OP's first sentence says.

Note the non-question at end of OP:
Mendacity.
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Ooops, sorry, my bad. But there is the google

I think some of what she says is just common sense, about encouraging behavior/tendencies, true no matter who delivers the message.


https://www.scribd.com/doc/33663207/...hild-Playmates
One of the sillier things in that article is the insistence that showing images of women with shaved pubic hair means that Playboy was trying to portray them as children. Sorry, no, they were just following cultural trends, the author should have known that. I also don't think that including a playmates child pictures in her biography means that they were trying to sexualize children.
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One of the sillier things in that article is the insistence that showing images of women with shaved pubic hair means that Playboy was trying to portray them as children. Sorry, no, they were just following cultural trends, the author should have known that. I also don't think that including a playmates child pictures in her biography means that they were trying to sexualize children.

Cherry picking, (no pun intended) unless maybe you did not read the part describing what else was done with the child pics...?

Nor do you mention other devices used. If you read the part about shaving, you would have also seen what else was done to portray them as children. Since that came after the part about what what was done with the child pics, Makes me wonder...Are you cherry picking?
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One of the sillier things in that article is the insistence that showing images of women with shaved pubic hair means that Playboy was trying to portray them as children. Sorry, no, they were just following cultural trends, the author should have known that. I also don't think that including a playmates child pictures in her biography means that they were trying to sexualize children.
Ya gotta be kiddin. Based on the description of what was done with the child pics, and the captions mentioned, it seems like the opposite is the case. Why else would they do that with the playmate child pics?
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Cherry picking, (no pun intended) unless maybe you did not read the part describing what else was done with the child pics...?
Do you mean placing them in a position the author claims would be used for the purpose of masturbating to both pictures simultaneously? This makes no sense to me. Pedophiles wouldn't have any interest in Playboy centerfolds.
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Nor do you mention other devices used. If you read the part about shaving, you would have also seen what else was done to portray them as children. Since that came after the part about what what was done with the child pics, Makes me wonder...Are you cherry picking?
If you mean things like dressing them like lolitas, or holding dolls, etc, yes, it is a common meme, but I don't think it has any connection with child exploitation. Pedophiles are not going to be interested in anything Playboy has to offer, those girls are aged out as far as they are concerned. The author seems to be looking for ways to be offended. Even the cartoons shown in the article, young girls, but with big breasts, are not something a pedophile would be interested in. Offensive, inappropriate, sure. But not pedophilic, they are interested in people without secondary sexual characteristics.
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" Pedophiles are not going to be interested in anything Playboy has to offer, those girls are aged out as far as they are concerned. The author seems to be looking for ways to be offended.... not something a pedophile would be interested in...."


IIRC, part or all of the author's research is that the various devices seen promote new attraction, new behavior toward children in general in the target readership, not necessarily established pedophiles.

Seemed easy enough to understand, reading the paper.
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IIRC, part or all of the author's research is that the various devices seen promote new attraction, new behavior toward children in general in the target readership, not necessarily established pedophiles.

Seemed easy enough to understand, reading the paper.
I understand it , I just don't buy it. You can't turn men into pedophiles, any more than you could turn a gay person straight.

I think there is a confusion with some people, perhaps the author, between pedophiles and hebephiles. The problem is that the term "children" includes both pre- and post-pubescent people.
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Nope. Given your history of passive-aggressive JAQing and attempted fringe resets, it's a suitable evaluation. But let's take you at your word; even though you invoked an idiot crackpot site with a patently absurd claim, you accept it for what it is: a shadow cast by part of the rover.

Are we done here?
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IIRC, part or all of the author's research is that the various devices seen promote new attraction, new behavior toward children in general in the target readership, not necessarily established pedophiles.

Seemed easy enough to understand, reading the paper.
You can't make healthy men into pedophiles.

Pedophiles don't read Playboy, pedophiles hangout on the dark-web on message board just like this one where they DM each other pictures and videos.

We are six pages into this thread and none of the CT loons have mentioned the dark-web which tells me these jackwagons don't know anything about REAL Pedophiles, nor do they care. It's about spreading lies couched as rumor and innuendo.

The dark web is where you can find real pedophile groups, and get tips and pointers on how to bugger little kids. The FBI and states AG's talk about this often, make arrests when they can. Cters post YouTube threads by loonies, but never post anything useful (rooted in fact).

This thread is a beacon of CT ethics.
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