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Old 6th March 2020, 01:19 PM   #3121
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And the ScotSec wants to connect Scotland and Norn Iron by tunnel rather than bridge.
Oh well that's much more sensib... No, I can't even manage it as sarcasm.

If you'll excuse me I'll just be banging my head against the wall...
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Old 6th March 2020, 02:32 PM   #3122
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And the ScotSec wants to connect Scotland and Norn Iron by tunnel rather than bridge.
Probably more practical.
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Old 6th March 2020, 02:36 PM   #3123
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Long tunnels aren't that difficult though. We are being tunnelled under at the moment. A new Polyhalite mine being developed on the edge of the moors behind Whitby will be connected to Teesport by a conveyor belt in a 37km long tunnel, getting to Northern Ireland isn't much further.
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Old 7th March 2020, 08:04 AM   #3124
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Oh well that's much more sensib... No, I can't even manage it as sarcasm.

If you'll excuse me I'll just be banging my head against the wall...
Don't hurt yourself.

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Probably more practical.
In the sense of being possible, if very expensive and rather pointless, yes.
Still any disturbances of the Beaufort Dyke dumps might be interesting.
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Old 7th March 2020, 08:07 AM   #3125
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Long tunnels aren't that difficult though. We are being tunnelled under at the moment. A new Polyhalite mine being developed on the edge of the moors behind Whitby will be connected to Teesport by a conveyor belt in a 37km long tunnel, getting to Northern Ireland isn't much further.
Woodsmith has an economic justification, it's not just another BoJo vanity project.
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Old 7th March 2020, 11:08 AM   #3126
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More Brexit winning. The UK will have to spend £40m annually to replace the function of the European regulatory body which costs £1-4m annually.
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The UK will leave the European aviation safety regulator after the Brexit transition period, Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has confirmed.

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He said UK membership of the European Aviation Safety Agency - responsible for certifying the airworthiness of planes - would end on 31 December.
He said the UK's Civil Aviation Authority would "bring expertise home", the agency's powers would revert to the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) "and the expertise will need to come home to do that, but we'll do it in a gradual way".
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The trade body ADS - which represents more than 1,100 UK businesses in the aerospace, defence, security and space sectors has estimated that it would take 10 years and cost up to £40m annually to create a UK safety authority with all the expertise of EASA, against a current contribution to the European agency of £1m to £4m a year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51783580

While being an EU body the EASA has a number of none EU members and associates.

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Old 7th March 2020, 12:28 PM   #3128
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Ah yes, but you see, that agency is staffed by foreigners that restricted British interests, whereas the new agency will be staffed by people assigned by Dominic Cummings and thus will only serve the British public to the fullest. Which is why it will cost 10 times more.
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Old 7th March 2020, 12:33 PM   #3129
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2019 The British people are prepared for No Deal Brexit. The Blitz spirit will see us through

2020 The British people absolutely lose it over 12-packs of Andrex.
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2019 The British people are prepared for No Deal Brexit. The Blitz spirit will see us through.
If the Blitz spirit isn't strong enough perhaps you could ask the EU to help out by dropping a few thousand bombs on London?
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Old 7th March 2020, 03:35 PM   #3131
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More Brexit winning. The UK will have to spend £40m annually to replace the function of the European regulatory body which costs £1-4m annually.
Leaving ECDC may save a little...
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Old 8th March 2020, 02:39 AM   #3132
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If the Blitz spirit isn't strong enough perhaps you could ask the EU to help out by dropping a few thousand bombs on London?
Dropping rolls of toilet paper might be more appropriate, simultaneously useful and indicative of what a complete farce this is.
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Old 11th March 2020, 11:53 PM   #3133
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Fair is fair, here is the first Brexit win.

For voting the way Trump wanted the British are still allowed to fly to the US whereas the rest of the EU is not. Clearly the purity of Brexit will filter out the virus.
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Old 12th March 2020, 01:27 AM   #3134
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Or could it be that Trump only has European resorts in Scotland and Ireland?
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Old 12th March 2020, 02:57 AM   #3135
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I'm sure that never crossed his mind....
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Old 12th March 2020, 07:04 AM   #3136
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Or could it be that Trump only has European resorts in Scotland and Ireland?
Not that Trump is likely to understand that one is part of the UK and one isn’t but is his resort in Ireland or is it in Northern Ireland?
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Not that Trump is likely to understand that one is part of the UK and one isn’t but is his resort in Ireland or is it in Northern Ireland?
Ireland (Doonbeg, County Clare)
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Old 14th March 2020, 04:01 AM   #3138
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Surely the government is going to have to extend the transition agreement, no one could blame them for this and no one could claim it is for anything but a real reason.
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Old 14th March 2020, 04:33 AM   #3139
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Surely the government is going to have to extend the transition agreement, no one could blame them for this and no one could claim it is for anything but a real reason.
Rubbish. We can't delay the benefits of isolationism any longer. Build the wall. Hail Kim Don Johnson
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Old 14th March 2020, 04:38 AM   #3140
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Surely the government is going to have to extend the transition agreement, no one could blame them for this and no one could claim it is for anything but a real reason.

No, they’ll just carry straight on over the cliff edge, and then blame the coronavirus for the whole thing.
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Surely the government is going to have to extend the transition agreement, no one could blame them for this and no one could claim it is for anything but a real reason.
Can't be done apparently:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-says-johnson

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When Johnson’s spokesman was asked whether the status quo transition period might need to be extended as a result, he said simply: “No”, then added: “In UK law, a request for an extension is not possible”.
So, expect an about face in month or so...
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No, they’ll just carry straight on over the cliff edge, and then blame the coronavirus for the whole thing.
Exactly, it's the best thing that could have happened to brexit.
Anything bad now is the fault of the virus.
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Can't be done apparently:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-says-johnson



So, expect an about face in month or so...
How an informed senior spokesman can come out with that without laughing is amazing. Of course one could think they weren't being entirely forthcoming.
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Exactly, it's the best thing that could have happened to brexit.
Anything bad now is the fault of the virus.
Well they do have the wonderful plan to kill sixty thousand older people...
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How an informed senior spokesman can come out with that without laughing is amazing. Of course one could think they weren't being entirely forthcoming.
Quite.
Anyone would think they didn't have an 80 seat bullet-proof majority.
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The UK is screwed.
And nothing you can do about for at least four years.
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Old 16th March 2020, 12:35 PM   #3147
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Well they do have the wonderful plan to kill sixty thousand older people...
Between the potential mortality among the older generation and them being forced to step back and self isolate this could be a watershed moment.
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Between the potential mortality among the older generation and them being forced to step back and self isolate this could be a watershed moment.
Alas Brexit has been passed...
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No, they’ll just carry straight on over the cliff edge, and then blame the coronavirus for the whole thing.
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Exactly, it's the best thing that could have happened to brexit.
Anything bad now is the fault of the virus.
With all the recent fuss over the coronavirus, I suppose that Brexit has been pushed off the front pages. But now I wonder if all the apocalyptic economic predictions will come true, albeit largely thanks to the looming global recession that's beginning? Bit of an unfortunate concurrence of events it would seem.
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Alas Brexit has been passed...
Yes, unfortunately. But this could be the moment when influence shifts and if there really is a faeces/ventilator interface situation people might (just might mind you) start to see through the line 'things are better than they were, and if they're not it's the other party's fault, yes even if they've been out of power ten years, anyway it was the last government so it wasn't our fault even if it was the same party and most of the same people because the Telegraph tells you so'.

I also think that with so many people encouraged to home work companies will find themselves under massive pressure to continue a homeworking expansion afterwards, which could have massive implications. Yes it was a pre-existing trend, but I think this will advance it significantly.
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The Guardian is reporting that Michel Barnier has tested positive. That will result in a further delay to talks, it suggests.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...latest-updates

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Duplicate.

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The Guardian is reporting that Michel Barnier has tested positive. That will result in a further delay to talks, it suggests.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...latest-updates

(Live link, so story may fall down the page)
No the intellectual titan who is the UK's foreign secretary has said just today that there's no need for a delay:

"UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab has said a post-Brexit UK-EU trade deal can still be done by the end of the transition period in December 2020.

Speaking to the Commons' Foreign Affairs Committee, Mr Raab said there was "plenty of scope" for talks "to be done through teleconferencing and remotely".

"We don't want to extend - we want to get this done," he told MPs."
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Dominic Raab: I've spent the day teleconferencing with Europe
Advisor: No Mr Raab that was a TV. You've been shouting at CBBC
DR: Fine, I'll cut their license fee. Then they'll agree to a trade deal!
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As others have said, looking at the lists of key workers it seems there's an awful big overlap with the lists of unskilled workers we need to stop coming to the UK.
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The NFU are calling for British people to work in the fields during the Coronavirus crisis because, due to a combination of immigration controls and people self-isolating there is a critical shortage of labour.

They are suggesting that it would be a great job for students home from college or people laid off from other jobs.

Of course whether someone would drive for hours to do backbreaking work for minimum wage is a good question.
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I thought Boris said they’ve already got it done.
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I thought Boris said they’ve already got it done.
Shockingly he may have told an untruth Although they have banned mentioning the B word but that's about it.
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So LAbour may finally have competent leadership, shame its about 2 years too late.
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