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3rd August 2018, 07:09 AM | #41 |
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3rd August 2018, 07:19 AM | #42 |
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"Q" is a Dept. of Energy clearance level. It doesn't have much relevance outside the DOE, since one of the relevant political nuggets is that DOE didn't want to be beholden to others for their security infrastructure. When they were given jurisdiction over the nation's nuclear program they legitimately did the power grab: no DOD or national intelligence interference. They were supposed to be a law unto themselves. And while Q is a high-ish level, it's not "top secret" in any sense that would imply keyword clearance or knowledge of topics outside their direct specialty. When I was working at DOE I was the only one not Q-cleared in my workgroup. It's not as uncommon or special as it seems they want us to believe. Looks to me like another "impress the rubes" ploy combining a nugget or two of fact with a whole lot of reliance on people's preconceptions and misconceptions of how security works.
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3rd August 2018, 07:44 AM | #43 |
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I heard about this "theory" a month or so ago during one of my forays to the dark side - that is, Reddit. I poked around the Qanon subreddit a little. Pretty kooky stuff, but also mostly the same repackaged malarkey to which we've all become accustomed. There's a great deal of creepy Trump veneration, which is totally weird and almost too over-the-top to take seriously. I suppose the cult angle is a little extra-disquieting.
I mostly just felt burning hatred for the idiocy on display, tinged with a dash of fear. I thought about starting a thread here, but figured since there wasn't one already, the whole thing must be pretty small and insignificant. Seems it's growing, though - super. |
3rd August 2018, 08:22 AM | #44 |
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That's the alt-right conspiracy MO. It's Pizzagate all over again. Some people are gullible idiots and buy the whole thing, some don't believe any of it and are shamelessly trolling, a bunch of people half believe and fall somewhere in between. It's all a big joke until someone takes it too seriously and starts popping off rounds at a pizza joint. It's weaponized bad-faith.
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3rd August 2018, 08:59 AM | #45 |
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3rd August 2018, 10:21 AM | #47 |
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3rd August 2018, 11:14 AM | #49 |
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3rd August 2018, 02:55 PM | #50 |
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5th August 2018, 10:13 AM | #51 |
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Hey, did you know that Qanon is actually a false flag, dedicated to bring Arabic law to the US? Well, let's start telling them that, at least, and see what happens!
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5th August 2018, 10:23 AM | #52 |
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What about Anon 7 ?
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5th August 2018, 11:21 AM | #53 |
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5th August 2018, 05:36 PM | #54 |
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6th August 2018, 04:01 AM | #55 |
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It doesn't have to scare off everyone from the bandwagon, just a few. The base is the base and it's not going anywhere. Who it may scare off are the lesser of two evils voters. It's those voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania and the I-4 Corridor in Florida who pushed him over the top.
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6th August 2018, 04:55 AM | #57 |
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I haven’t signed in for over a year, but I saw a segment on a news program and I was so discouraged that I had to post. A reporter asked one of the Q folks demonstrating outside the most recent President Trump speech if she had any evidence to support the theory that this Q stuff is real. She responded “no, but you don’t have any evidence that it’s not real.”
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6th August 2018, 06:50 AM | #58 |
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6th August 2018, 07:54 AM | #59 |
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Q is a beauty of a Conspiracy, since there is nothing that cannot be interpreted as supporting it. It also gives Trump carte blanche as well as an excuse for total failure.
I tip my hat to the originators. |
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6th August 2018, 09:34 AM | #60 |
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Out of curiosity I looked up Qanon groups on Facebook.
Serious crazy, some of these groups have over 1000 posts a day. From PizzaGate to the Tuscon "Child Trafficking Bunker" to this, it is amazing how much energy people put into this. They stay amped up and motivated continuously, for months and years. Qanon won't fade away so much as it will just morph into the next thing. |
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6th August 2018, 12:53 PM | #62 |
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6th August 2018, 12:56 PM | #63 |
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6th August 2018, 01:13 PM | #64 |
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6th August 2018, 01:27 PM | #65 |
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6th August 2018, 03:14 PM | #66 |
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6th August 2018, 03:21 PM | #67 |
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I heard that JFK and Elvis run a satanic child sex ping pong pizza parlor beneath the Denver airport.
Seriously, child abuse is probably the single worst thing most of us can imagine, so it's logical that this worst-imaginable thing gets projected onto the evildoers. It's just a matter of degree from Jack Abramoff's private jet sex dungeon to killing babies and making passover matzoh from their blood. |
6th August 2018, 06:13 PM | #68 |
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The really disturbing possibility is that they may believe the pedophilia aspects out of projection of their own thoughts.
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7th August 2018, 06:00 AM | #69 |
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This, from The Guardian:
How Journalists Should Not Cover an Online Conspiracy Theory Bottom Line:
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7th August 2018, 07:29 AM | #70 |
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7th August 2018, 03:01 PM | #71 |
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Why not ask Q?
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7th August 2018, 04:26 PM | #72 |
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The best description I've seen is "Q is Pokemon for dip *****."
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11th August 2018, 05:24 AM | #73 |
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They seem to want a Messiah. It's pretty sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vw9N96E-aQ https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawaken...e_mockingbird/ |
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11th August 2018, 09:26 PM | #76 |
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Almost half the country has been thoroughly brainwashed by hate radio and Fox over 30 years now. All their old narratives about who the bad guys are (communists, non-Christians, liberals) have fallen apart, so they're flying solo trying to make sense of the world now.
In short, the wingnuts are on facebook and redditt and youtube now and have discovered the weird world of conspiracy theories in a pretty epic way. I'm starting to think Cass Sunstein was right about "cascades" of faulty information within groups" and how scary it is. Where do I apply with the Deep State to become a..."re-information" operative and talk these guys down from the ledge? LOL |
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Yeah, Seeing it from outside of the US was one thing, but I've been back in the States now for a few months before heading back South of the border and it has been amazing to see first-hand. Lunacy and non-critical thinking are being applauded and celebrated as being their exact opposites. As my dad recently said to me, " This whole thing, this whole ******* thing, it's...it's...it's ******* la-la-land. I don't know what else to say".
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