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20th April 2018, 11:58 PM | #121 |
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21st April 2018, 12:10 AM | #122 |
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21st April 2018, 12:21 AM | #123 |
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If you're not a scientist but you think you've destroyed the foundation of a vast scientific edifice with 10 minutes of Googling, you might want to consider the possibility that you're wrong. Its TRE45ON season... convict the F45CIST!! |
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21st April 2018, 06:02 AM | #124 |
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21st April 2018, 08:35 AM | #126 |
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Alas, that's basically impossible. Even if the court gave a judgement for literally everything he owns, they can't confiscate his single biggest asset: the literally millions of idiot followers who hang on his every utterance, and send him money for it. Even if he loses the Infowars.com domain, he can start up the next day with a Go Fund Me to start DisInfowars, or some such thing, and his idiot minions will quite happily put him back on top in short order. They'd have to fine him everything he owns and everything he ever will own to stop this, which I suspect most courts would be reluctant to do. |
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21st April 2018, 04:27 PM | #127 |
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If you're not a scientist but you think you've destroyed the foundation of a vast scientific edifice with 10 minutes of Googling, you might want to consider the possibility that you're wrong. Its TRE45ON season... convict the F45CIST!! |
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27th April 2018, 11:22 AM | #128 |
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I'm questioning your nom de plume if you feel there is any need to bring a gun to Texas.
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27th April 2018, 02:02 PM | #129 |
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If you're not a scientist but you think you've destroyed the foundation of a vast scientific edifice with 10 minutes of Googling, you might want to consider the possibility that you're wrong. Its TRE45ON season... convict the F45CIST!! |
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27th April 2018, 02:43 PM | #130 |
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16th August 2018, 03:47 PM | #131 |
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Media companies are feeling the heat from this lawsuit etc.
Wordpress deleting Sandy Hook conspiracy theory blogs. Article at TechCrunch.
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16th August 2018, 06:16 PM | #132 |
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I fully expect alt-right numbskulls to start bleating about free speech and 1A... blah blah blah. However, I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with denying a platform to Alex Jones, and any other scumbag who would use their free speech rights to attack and slander the parents of slaughtered children.
I hope Jones gets kicked off every public platform and is forced to set up his own... then Anonymous can start the DDoS attacks without affecting anyone else. |
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16th August 2018, 06:51 PM | #133 |
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He should call it www.infowars.com
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16th August 2018, 07:05 PM | #134 |
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“Because there’s a moron for your mind”
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5th December 2018, 03:44 AM | #135 |
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In other news......
Lenny Pozner sues James Fetzer and Mike Palacek for defamation related to conspiracies about the shooting at Sandy Hook school
Originally Posted by New York Times
SEE HERE (link: New York Times) Compus |
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5th December 2018, 10:36 AM | #136 |
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I would rather see the Sandy Hook parents tortured in camps than have them partially responsible for removing a sliver of freedom. Freedom is more important than butthurt. Always has been, no matter what. People just don't care about freedom anymore. Now in France the're trying to censor conspiracy theories all together.
Actual crisis actor conspiracies have been conceived of before (1967 Operation Northwoods memo and the Bush-Blair 2003 Memo), so it's not like the conspiracy theorists started it. Plus, people wouldn't be so quick to judge them if they were aware of the true war-mongering nature of the U.S. for the last sixty years, and would especially become more sympathetic to the crazier crowd if they were aware of all the evidence surrounding the assassinations of the 60's. Conspiracy watchdogs are important in society because conspiracies happen. Besides, Alex Jones is technically more innocent than almost all mainstream media entities because he called BS on the Iraq war from the very beginning, an Iraq was a pointless mass murder that cost 1.5 million+ lives. Who here wants their freedom of speech to be decided by a committee of Kyle's mom from South Park? Because there's no argument that that's what we're going to get. |
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5th December 2018, 10:49 AM | #138 |
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5th December 2018, 10:57 AM | #140 |
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The "Sandy Hook parents" chose to become public figures by choosing to appear on news media. If you want to say the consequences of that are horrible, that's just the tragedy of reality. "I like freedom" is a political statement, not a Hallmark card. It comes with some good and some bad. Innocent people could get hurt, but then again people could get hurt the other way too. It is possible to disagree with having the maximum amount of freedom at all times. I happen to think that is the best way. If you disagree, say so.
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5th December 2018, 11:08 AM | #142 |
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Are you a politician? None of what you've written answers my question.
Should I be allowed to tell all of my friends and yours that you indulge in illegal and reprehensible activity? Am I at liberty to run round telling the world about it and maybe publish a book entitled "MicahJava's Illegal and Reprehensible Activity all over the Western Hemisphere"? (Read about the remarkable interaction with Thai 'ladies', marvel at the the wonder of what he can do with three balloons and a peanut. "A work of unparalleled truth" Alex Jones)
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5th December 2018, 11:09 AM | #143 |
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We are living in a time of a legal test of the 1st amendment. Seems that malicious actors are trying to walk the razor's edge of protected speech. What counts as a protected opinion and open slander, harassment, or incitement to harassment is a tricky question that I have no simple response for.
One thing is abundantly clear, these trolls hiding behind 1A are among the worst people.
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5th December 2018, 11:39 AM | #144 |
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Freedom of speech does not absolve you of the consequences of your speech. That book is tantamount to libel, and if there are people that have harassed the Sandy Hook parents to the degree that is being claimed (and from what I have read there is no reason to think he's lying), the people who wrote the book could and should be responsible for causing the harassment.
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5th December 2018, 12:16 PM | #148 |
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5th December 2018, 12:26 PM | #149 |
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5th December 2018, 12:39 PM | #151 |
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Freedom of speech does not equal freedom from speech.
If I walk into a predominantly African-American nightclub and start calling people the N-word, I should expect the profound beating that follows. If I write a book claiming that Patrick Stewart is indeed the head of the Illuminati without any documented evidence proving that he is, then I should expect Stewart to sue my butt into oblivion. The Sandy Hook parents have a Constitutional right of redress, a freedom you want to take away.
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I'm curious how you justify fascist terror threats under the hollow banner of Freedom?
How can you argue on one thread that the JFK assassination and the 9-11 attacks were part of a right-wing conspiracy, and then defend Nazis on this thread? Or are you even aware that this is what you are doing? The Sandy Hook parents didn't choose anything, they were chosen by the cruelest of fates when a spoiled, mentally ill rich kid shot his way into their kid's school, and killed a bunch of them. The press stuck microphones in their faces and they spoke, that was it. If someone killed my kid I would become a crusader in a New York Minute. You only care about human suffering when it suits your political world view. If you can't show compassion for the murder of 20 kindergartners then how can we see your lamentations over the deaths of Iraqis as anything but crocodile tears? I hope they win. I hope Jones and other like him ends up penniless living under a highway overpass in Omaha. |
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6th December 2018, 02:45 AM | #158 |
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Scum like Alex Jones propelled Sandy Hook victims into the media spotlight with their lies. Innocent people got hurt by a man with a gun and Jones and his ilk choose to make money out of it. That seem reasonable to you? If it does I'd take a good look at yourself in the mirror and throw a rock at it.
I completely disagree with your utterly stupid non sequitur that being a victim of an atrocity makes you fair game for morons and charlatans in the name of freedom. |
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6th December 2018, 03:25 AM | #159 |
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No, Sandy Hook parents were forced to take that path because of the pack of lies told by a vile, despicable, and barely sub-human pile of steaming faeces called Alex Jones, and the rancid turds who support him and follow him. Some of those rancid turds physically threatened the lives of Sandy Hook parents.
I'd rather see Alex Jones and those who agree with him tortured in these camps of yours... they would certainly be more deserving of such treatment than the parents of murdered middle-schoolers Being threatened by nutcase conspiracy theorists because your children have been murdered in a mass shooting is not "butthurt", its a tragedy. I would be quite happy to have my "freedom of speech" curtailed to the point where if I publicly accused people of faking their child's murder, I would need to prove, in a Court of Law that what I am accusing them of is true. I would still have freedom of speech, as long as accusatory speech is verifiable truth. The world would be a lot more civil place if everyone had to be accountable for what they publicly said about others. |
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Yes.
This isn't a case of someone being mistaken. This is a case of someone spreading blatant lies. At best without performing the basic steps one would expect a reasonable person to perform to determine their truth before making the accusations, and at worst a malicious and deliberate callousness as to the effect of their speech on others in the name of personal profit. This type of speech is not any "watchdog of freedom", it's non-government propaganda. There are reasons that pretty much every civilized country in the world has libel and slander laws. |
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