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Your complaint is that the "article" it is not what it never purported to be. |
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Why have you placed the word 'article' in quote marks? Are you still disputing that it is an article?
Are you also disputing the fact that this is not journalism but advertising, and therefore cannot be relied on as unbiased? The article, BTW, says at the bottom that it is adapted from the book. So it is not an excerpt from the book. If you want to drag the discussion down into petty semantics, I can play that game too. Is this in any way productive? |
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October 9, 1963. 'This filmed press conference focuses on the Central Intelligence Agency's (CIA's) alleged "independent activities in Vietnam," U.S. Department of State disputes with the CIA, and proposed oversights at the CIA.' :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX_sKMz32Wg He says he was in agreement with the CIA on what the CIA was going to do in Vietnam. He was also against additional oversight of the CIA as he clearly states. |
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More MSM cover of the RFK assassination, this time The Washington Post:
The assassination of Bobby Kennedy: Was Sirhan Sirhan hypnotized to be the fall guy?Of course he was. Hypnotized, drugged and brainwashed in connection with CIA’s MKUltra. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b690d31b765b |
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Sure as soon as you answer my question. You keep missing that part.
Is there somewhere there who could help you with with this? http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=167 lol |
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After all, this is the mainstream media. It;s under the control of the Evil Them, right?
I wonder, because the article is full of rebuttals to the idea that Sirhan was hypnotised.
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Sooner or later it will all crack open. Ordinary people are suckers for the truth.
This could be a first sign. A beginning of a new development.
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A good and well researched article in a MSM outlet for a change.
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I think schizophrenia or other mental illness is a much more plausible explanation for Sirhan's claim that he didn't remember shooting Kennedy than hypnosis or some other form of mind control, as is just plain lying. It seems clear that Sirhan's lawyer was working on the assumption that Sirhan was guilty, and trying to get him acquitted on insanity or convicted of a lesser charge due to diminished capacity. Claiming he didn't remember shooting Kennedy may well have been an attempt to support that strategy.
I, for one, am not at all convinced that that sort of mind control is even possible. The CIA certainly tried to achieve that with MK Ultra, but there is little evidence that they succeeded. Of course, if they did succeed, they wouldn't have advertised it. Of course, even if there was a second gunman, the most likely scenario is a conspiracy of two, in which case Sirhan may well have played dumb to protect his partner. I find the evidence presented for a second gunman to be far from convincing. There does seem to be at least one credible dispute of the initial finding that the bullet that killed Kennedy came from Sirhan's gun, which, if upheld, would be definitive, but I find the alleged acoustic evidence that 13 shots were fired, and eyewitness claims that Sirhan couldn't have fired the fatal shots to be not at all convincing. |
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Last night on Coast to Coast AM George Noory had Prof. Paul DeBole on to discuss the RFK Assassination.
While the various CT's were discussed, it seems that neither one believes them, which was shocking for this show: https://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/last-90-days The most interesting thing for me is that Noory interviewed Sirhan Sirhan a few years ago, and thinks he's full of crap when he says he doesn't remember shooting RFK. ps, If MK Ultra worked nobody outside of CIA would ever know it existed. |
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No, all the medical expertise who have diagnosed Sirhan after the trial agree that he has no mental illness. They also agree that he is extremely accomodating, suggestible and easy to hypnotize. These are/were all leading experts in the field.
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When in prison, the prison psychiatrist also tried to unlock Sirhans memory, but had to stop when orders came from the prison director not to do this. The psychiatrist resigned from his position.
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Had it not been for different associated files and financial records, this Project would possibly still be unknown to the public. My bet is that all this continued but in a more covert form and based on what was learned in MKUltra and preceding projects, as BLUebird and ARTichoke. And yes, lots of leads in internal reports of a working Manchurian Candidate concept have been found.
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- All the expertise that have met him and/or studied his case agree that he showed all the signs of post hypnotic suggestion after the arrest. - All the expertise that have met him agree that he is exeptionally easy to hypnotize. - The ’girl in the polka dot dress’ shouting in front of three independent witnesses that ”we shot him, we shot senator Kennedy”, when leaving the scene of the assassination. - The CIA taking over the investigation in the form of Special Unit Senator. - A tape recording containing 13 pistol shots from two pistols. - Impossible trajectories and number of bullet wounds and holes to account for only the max 8 bullets fired from Sirhans gun. - The security guard Thane Caesar who admitted that he drew his gun but has been vacillating on the issue of firing any shot. He stood at the exact position for firing the three shots that killed RFK. Slightly behind and to the right of him. - At least one witness saw Caesar firing his pistol. - Thane Caesar claiming he had owned a .22 caliber pistol but sold it before the event, when instead selling it months after the event. - Caesars employer was a security firm owned/controlled by Robert Maheu, liaison between the CIA and the Mafia in their joint efforts to assassinate Fidel Castro. - A young aspiring photographer who got his film confiscated from by the LAPD. When he got it back he saw that all the film that was exposed in the pantry was not there and when asking for it got the answer that the film would be ’secret’ for an additional 20 years. When 20 years had passed he sued LAPD for the film who ”lost it to a thief” the same day that they were directed by court to return it to its owner. - Lots of other critical evidence destroyed. - Sirhan would have been set free on parole as early as 1985 if he had ’admitted’ to remembering the assassination and thereby taking ’full responsibilty’ for his crime. He still do not remember. - Sirhan was a tiny kid and everybody who knew him testified to his gentleness without a trace of aggressiveness or violent tendencies. - He highly admired senator Kennedy recognicing his true commitment to racial equality, peace in Vietnam and social justice. - Shall I continue? |
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Wow. Yes, Noory is a world renowned psychiatrist and leading expert in hypnosis, trauma and coersive mind control.
He should know. Thanks for that gem.
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Or it's always been like this, only you've never noticed it.
Have you heard of something called "Watergate"? Here is your post. Please highlight the part where it says that. Aside from the fact that this is a ridiculous and unsupported generalisation, are you comparing this with the so-called 'alternative media', in which research appears to be a dirty word? On what are you basing this claim? The label 'MSM' covers a vast range of media outlets, from the serious and well- respected to, well, the Daily Mail. Are you seriously trying to tar them all with the same brush, or was this just lazy stereotyping? Oh, I see. You simply ignored any parts of the "good and well-researched article" that contradicted your prior conclusions. That's much better, then. |
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So, where does it say that professional expertise are ”gullible” and charlatans are not?
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