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http://www.internationalskeptics.com...7#post12317577
Manifesto said: I’m really doing my very best keeping up with your requests. Nice and easy. 'Nice and easy' seems to means, 'not in THIS decade' http://www.internationalskeptics.com...postcount=4860 Originally Posted by Hans View Post This is day twenty one of no evidence from manifesto Manifesto is now up to hundreds of claims with no evidence provided. We can now add to that another howler Quote: I’m really doing my very best keeping up with your requests. Nice and easy. Quote: Yes, I’m doing my best to keep up with all of you and all of your crap barrage of “requests” for evidence. Promise. http://www.internationalskeptics.com...postcount=5237 Quote: This post will be reposted until the questions are answered to H's satisfaction. |
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I watched the first few minutes of the video. Sirhan ^2 is "hypnotized" and a suggestion is planted for him to start climbing at some future point. Amazingly he
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Ok, here are the LAPD’s list of the five witnesses closest to RFK during the shooting. No one was asked by same LAPD how close Sirhan was to RFK when firing his pistol, but they testified to this elsewhere:
- Assistant maître d’ Karl Uecker: “The gun was one and a half to two feet away. There is no way the shots described in the autopsy could have come from Sirhan’s gun. . . . Sirhan never got close enough for a point blank shot. Never!” (to Congressman Allard Lowenstein)These are the LAPD’s five best positioned witnesses and no one corroborates the theory that Sirhan fired the shots that hit RFK. All shots fired from behind with a steep upwards trajectory and the fatal headshot fired one inch from the entrance wound, according to the powder marks identified at the autopsy. There is more. |
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Has anyone in the history of the universe ever been found not guilty because they were hypnotized and thus not responsible for the crime they were charged with?
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I did a short check too and ended up with an attempted computer hijack. Damned Russians!
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Sorry, I'm not seeing how this shows there MUST have been a second shooter.
Nobody knows for sure the order in which the bullets were fired. What if RFK had his head turned. What if the jacket shot, which entered and exited through the right shoulder of his jacket without striking him, was the first shot fired. What if he turned away after that shot and Sirhan was no longer directly in front. RFK would not have simply stood still, facing Sirhan, while Sirhan loosed off eight shots at him. Really, then how was he able to say in this interview with David Frost, what his reasons were for killing RFK?.
For a man who "has no memory of the shooting", he is sure able to give up a lot of details about whgat he was thinking at the time and in the time leading up to the shooting, as well as stating clearly that he was not part of any conspiracy to kill RFK. You have no met your burden. So far, all I have seen from you is supposition, bare assertion and unbridled speculation. How about evidence, such as Eye-witnesses who saw a second shooter Bullet from a gun other than the eight shot .22 caliber Iver-Johnson Cadet used by Sirhan. |
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- Sirhan bought the pistol from some dude.
- Sirhans controllers makes sure he attends the RFK election gathering at Ambassador that evening. - They administer drugs/alcohol to him. - He gets approached by the girl in the polka-dot dress and he follows her around looking for coffe (and sex?). - The two of them gets directed to the pantry shortly before RFK is guided through it by the security guard. - The polka-dot girl pinches him hard in the shoulder and turn him around facing the approaching RFK. - Sirhan goes in to ”range mode” and start shooting on an imagined range target in front of him. - The real assassin fires the shots that killed RFK while all the focus is on Sirhan. - Sirhan gets wrestled down on a steam table by four big guys and shows enormeus strength and a peaceful expression on his face. - The polka-dot girl leaves the pantry and (and presumably also the real assassin) the Ambassador with a latino looking guy and are observered by three witnesses independently, shouting triumphantly that: ”We killed the senator, we killed Kennedy!” That is, the operation is far from planned in detail in a sense that all bits and pieces had to fall perfectly in place for it to succeed. It was more ad hoc: 1. Get the programmed patsy in place in the vicinity of RFK’s public appearance. 2. Get his controllers and the real assassin in place. 3. Manipulate the RFK entourage to take the route through the pantry. 4. Guide Sirhan to same pantry just before the end of RFK’s speech. 5. Activate Sirhans ”range mode” and thereby the distraction and cover for the real assassin to step in. This is not a watertight plan with 100% certain success. They tried it and it worked. I’m sure they had other options if not successful this time. Maybe involving Sirhan, maybe something else. Who knows. |
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This would have been really funny if it was not for the complete disregard for truth and justice it conveys.
- Both the Pentagon and the CIA had ongoing multi million dollar mind control programs involving hundreds of institutions and thousands of participants and with the explicit aim to learn how to program unwitting assassins and patsies to assassins. Including assassination of domestic officials.But I guess all this and much more are funny too, Wolrab? As I said, keep exposing yourselfs for who your really are. We are observing, watching, learning and waiting. |
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Surely this nefarious plan has been used countless times since then as it worked like a charm?
-Those programs were discontinued. Governments spend lots of money and resources on things that don't work, see the War on Drugs and Poverty. -Nobody has ever been hypnotized into assassination. - Sirhan^2 will say whatever is needed to get attention. Who is this "we" you speak of? Yes, the things you post are funny and deserve nothing but ridicule. |
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Since I did not state this as facts, but purely as a hypothetical scenario, I’ll put that on the straw man shelf among all rest of them.
Point is, it doesn’t take that much of precision to set up a more or less coerced mind controlled patsy in the way Sirhan was. The difficult part is, as usual, how to get away with it. This takes P O W E R. Who had the power to get away with it? Well, that is the recurring million dollar question, isn’t it. Lumumba Hammarskjöld JFK MLKJr. RFK Che Guevara Gen. Sneyder Allende Aldo Moro Lennon Palme Etc ... Who has this power? |
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I'll bet it won't be long before you start trying to sell this BS as a claim... (perhaps around the time of your next fringe reset?)
We'll be watching for it! And you are claiming all those people were assassinated by "Manchurian Candidates"? |
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Chuckle so lets see you BELIEVE the evil CIA shot ALL these people? Okay you do know the CIA didn't form until after WWII so who shot all the people before and during WWI? Lots of people got shot poisoned or blown up prior to the CIA even existing..... Secondly why did those people all stop shooting people so that the CIA could do it? Just wondering? lol |
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Much like the silent explosives used one and only time on 9/11/2001, the CIA mind control assassin program was used only this one time, to kill RFK.
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Putting a gun into the hands of a man who was clearly mentally unbalanced was a huge risk. That's why your scenario doesn't work.
You don't hire an assassin for this kind of job, you recruit one. You find some extremist, get worked up, and put him into place where he can drop your target...because it's his target. If he is captured he doesn't know your name or anything about you. There's nothing to cover-up because you are nowhere near the scene of the crime. There is nothing to cover-up because your assassin was a willing participant; no second gunman needed. If you're going to blame the CIA for stuff you need to at least demonstrate that you have basic understanding of how they would have actually done stuff.
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If you use the term "assassination" as the killing of a prominent figure for political or religious reasons; you are spot-on. However, a person was hypnotized, killed an individual, and the Hypnotist was convicted of murder. This was a case in Kansas back in the late 1800's. I do not know all the details but it established case law...
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https://listverse.com/2015/10/16/10-...s-of-hypnosis/
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*1: No way can a person be an unwilling participant in hyponosis. *2: It is not possible to hypnotise a person to have a skill they did not have previously. If it were possible, every weekend bogey golf hacker could be hypnotised into being a Major winner, every weekend gun enthusiast could be hypnotised into being an Olympic sharpshooter. |
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