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14th February 2013, 06:00 PM | #401 |
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The weight and velocity allow the wing to over-load the joints of the columns. DERP!
Aluminum does penetrate steel surfaces at sufficient speed. The observable phenomena that occur in this time/space continuum show that your theories lead to unsupportable conclusions. |
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14th February 2013, 06:08 PM | #404 |
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We do. This threat is full of statements and displays that demonstrate that you do not. You question the word of fire and crash investigators as to what a crash site or a fire scene should look like, you question construction laborers and ditch diggers as to how certain types of soills behave. You question the word of structural engineers as to how a building will resist an aicraft impact.
And you have demonstrated no credentials for your expertise or proofs or demonstrations of your theories. You are dribbling weak sauce all over the board. |
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14th February 2013, 06:21 PM | #406 |
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14th February 2013, 06:26 PM | #407 |
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The air of a hurricane is moving at 100 mph. This air, can tare apart wood.
The water of a tsunami may be moving at only 30 mph, and yet it can tear apart wood structures. Please explain how lighter and less dense substances can tare apart stronger and more dense substances. Cause it happens ALL the time. |
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On average you post more often within in a single hour than I post in an entire day. I think it would be in your best interests to slow down a bit. You know you don't have to completely derail your life just because a few dozen strangers on an obscure internet forum disagree with you, right? Surely you could be doing something better with your time? |
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14th February 2013, 06:55 PM | #409 |
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Soft lead can fly straight through much harder and stronger steel, if moving at a fast enough speed.
Why? Because force is a combination of mass AND velocity. This is why the planes were able to cut through the steel beams of the WTC and Pentagon. |
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With enough force driving it, lead can blow through steel, water can blow through wood, and air can tare apart concrete.
Its called "Physics", something that 9-11 Truthers fail to appreciate. This conversation reminds of when years ago 9-11 Truthers argued that the WTC towers were built like a solid tree, and that the top 1/3rd couldn't collapse the lower 2/3rds. |
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I'm not the one claiming that a jet's wing is like a water-jet, nor a bullet. That'd be you guys. Water jets need to be coherent for the same reason a bullet does, both of which have the benefit of applying their velocity and mass at a tiny point of inpact. Because the wing's thin aluminum sheeting is spread out over a wide point of imact, the same principles are not in play. It is not solid, and the fuel may add weight but not mass and density to the aluminum.
It is not solid, it is hollow. So what holds it together? If it doesn't support my argument, why don't you show me the argument that supports yours. MIT had to roll up all the aluminum into a big ball and reform into a hollow aluminum machete in their model. I didn't see the figures in the NIST model, can you point them out to me? Show me how this: Can shear this: It can't, and the 9/11 Crash Test will prove it. |
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Here's the video that describes the project.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn3a--hf7_s The website is http://www.911crashtest.org |
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Well, those piles still contained a lot of combustibles, for one.
And where are you getting 1000K (1340F) from? USGS says it was "over 800F", but doesn't say how much over: http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-...r-01-0405.html |
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Yankee451, I take it if I offer to accelerate some foam padding to 600mph you will have no problem letting your body be hit by it? After all, your body is denser.
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I just wanted to quote this for anyone that has you on ignore.
I have shown you several times. You might ask yourself, what holds it together enough to allow the plane to fly? Take note how badly this wing wants to stay "coherent". It doesn't have to be indestructible, only strong enough to overload what it hit.
BTW: The NIST figures are quoted in the powerpoint you never read. |
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Cool video. Reminds me of dad. He was a stress engineer for Boeing on the triple 7. Helped design the engine strut (that critical part that holds the engine to the wing). They had a cool slogan on their t-shirts: "Destiny. It's not a matter of chance, it's a matter of choice". I thought that was a cool saying for a group of guys who if they fail at their job...hundreds of people die.
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