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The NYPD and Molten Concrete
Corruption in big-city police departments is legendary. Countless movies about dirty cops litter the video shelves; movies like Serpico, Internal Affairs, and the Godfather depict corruption everywhere. Everyone’s aware of Philadelphia PD corruption, of the LAPD and Rodney King, etc., etc. To a lesser known extent, but likely just as corrupt, come other big city departments, like the fire departments and social services, or the mayor’s offices. Influence peddling (read: graft, bribery) in local and national governments is commonplace, but we common folk prefer not to talk about it, or tell ourselves the good guys win in the end. It’s a happy fantasy.
We’ve all heard the stories about the brave FDNY and the rivers of molten steel. The fire department is presented as hero-victims of 9/11 ais therefore beyond suspicion and reproach, as is their claim of molten steel. Second only to the FDNY on the sympathy scale is the NYPD, but what many people don’t know is not only was steel in the sky turned molten by kerosene on 9/11, but according to the NYPD, it also melted concrete a thousand feet below and not only that but after it cooled, it solidified back into concrete, encasing firearms therein. ...
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3rd February 2013, 08:56 AM | #2 |
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There was molten lava, an underground tactical nuke was used.
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3rd February 2013, 09:17 AM | #3 |
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A double dose of dumb threads.
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Wow, a no planer who posts utterly unreadable nonsense.
Oh Portland, what is it with you and the no planers? |
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There was nothing molten about the concrete. It was all turned to dust. Judy Wood proved this years ago, and it's only these last holdouts on the JREF that haven't accepted the reality of it all.
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3rd February 2013, 09:49 AM | #8 |
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So it's a massive conspiracy by the NYPD or someone who has no clue writes something wrong on a placard for a museum.
Occam's Razor would suggest it's the latter. Er, yep definitely the latter. /end thread. |
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So these intellectually stunted JREF denizens actually believe the concrete turned to lava and then back to concrete without melting the guns.
Fascinating. |
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The gun did not melt. The concrete was not melted.
You deny the moon landings, and you deny nukes exist. It is not a surprise you are full of political bias and can't figure out 911 given the answers and 11 years. You failed to make a point; you are spamming JREF with stuff that got you banned at crazy 911 truth sites. You are a 911 truther who can't find support from 911 truth. How ironic, your stuff is so stupid, 911 truth shuns you. The only point you have made; you take random quotes, and form incoherent rant, frothing at the mouth, spewing nonsense, posting piles of BS with no purpose, no goal. Now you will project some, and repeat. |
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It's a tough position to be in, I know.
So were the fires hot enough to melt concrete or not? |
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You are ranting with no point. What is your point?
The fires in the WTC complex were not hot enough to melt steel. They were hot enough to melt anything with a melting point near 1,000 C. There were special areas where the oxygen generators could have burnt, you would have to look up the heat and temperature of the oxygen generators to see what could happen. But you don't do research for understanding you google up lies and make them bigger and dumber lies. This thread has no purpose, and you can't explain what the purpose was; so far the purpose seems to be exposing your complete illogical approach to 911 research, and your complete ignorance of science. |
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Here you go boss. Molten/meteorite/museum madness from days of yore: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...36#post7569836 http://www.internationalskeptics.com...20#post7957120 http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=106240 http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=105273 (this forum does have a search function y'know ) |
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Anyone?
Were the fires hot enough to melt concrete or not? |
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Well, he dun got us but good here.
Maybe he should ride off into the sunset.... |
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The fires were not hot enough to melt steel. The fires reached 1,000 C. Can't you do the math and material science; and answer your own goal-free question?
Can you state your goal with this thread besides the fact you ask stupid questions? Why not declare victory before you realize you have 11 years of failure in the box. |
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The museum does not change 911. 19 terrorists, real people, murdered thousands. You know the stuff you ignore, so you can focus on nonsense from a museum.
Yes, it looks like a gun was smashed into concrete in the WTC collapse. With the energy of over 260 tons of TNT released during the collapse, it is not a surprise they have what looks like melted concrete around a gun. But is really a bunch of WTC debris crushed with the energy of tons of TNT with a gun. You don't do physics, so you can't comprehend how an event with more energy expended than a small nuke can have things that look funny. Wait, you don't believe nukes exist, and we never landed on the moon. Is there a conspiracy theory you don't try to make dumber? You mentioned the 100,000 tons of steel. Now you see what that does when it collapses on light weight concrete floors and crushes the debris into a new rock with a gun. There was more than enough heat and energy on 911 to make what looks like a meteorite with a gun in it. What is your point? Did the concrete melt, I doubt it, do I care if the museum got it wrong? No, because it becomes a test to expose fraud, people like you who make a big deal about things they can't grasp, so they make up lies and disrespect the dead. You got this act down to a science. |
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yankee451, I'd believe you, but there's no link to a you-tube video, the only truther evidence that is unassailable (emphasis on ass).
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The OP, without a photo that takes the text out to europe...
Warning: the BS below might be worse than waterboarding...
And has nothing to do with 911. And has nothing to do with 911. And has nothing to do with 911. Rodney King? lol, is he your hero too? And has nothing to do with 911. No, there were no rivers of melted steel. But the FDNY was brave. They were heroes. Wait till they read this. There was not melted steel. I have not seen on fireman say there was melted concrete. To fool gullible people like you? The fires were intense enough for people to jump instead of burn to death. Is that hot enough, is that intense enough. Are you going to make fun of the people who jumped? No wonder you were banned at crazy 911 truth forums, you are unique. Your claims are stupid. And has nothing to do with 911. And has nothing to do with 911. Yes, it proves an aircraft hit the WTC. Debunks the idiotic lie of no plane. Yes, it is a 767 engine. Debunks the no-plane lies. Wrong, we have multiple sources for the aircraft parts, and we have multiple RADAR sites proving 11 and 175 did the impacts. Makes your failed insane claims, nonsense. Concrete can't melt? lol And has nothing to do with 911. And has nothing to do with 911. So? You just solved the problem. The collapse of the WTC made concrete lump together under the tremendous weight of collapse, and energy greater as big as a small nuke. Like the nukes you say never existed. No you don't have proof of anything; we have foaming at the mouth rant about silly topics which don't prove anything, but you have a fantasy you can't define with math and physics. Did you use math to prove nukes don't exist? Why are you anti-science? |
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It was a nano thermite nuc. No loud explosions, no blinding light, no radioactivity, just pure power the push the tops down at faster than free fall speed, throw 60 ton I beams around like toothpicks, crush concrete into dust and then burn for three months against all the water in the river.
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