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18th April 2016, 07:30 PM | #1 |
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How the US covered up Saudi involvement
I am surprised there isn't a thread on this yet
http://nypost.com/2016/04/17/how-us-...i-role-in-911/ |
19th April 2016, 02:57 AM | #2 |
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Is this a big story in the MSM?
I see a lot about it on social media, but is CNN making this a big story for instance? As much as I hate to say it, Micheal Moore's conspiracy undertones from Fahrenheit 9/11 now seem completely justified. |
19th April 2016, 03:49 AM | #3 |
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Assuming that SA provided money to the hijackers... what would be their motive? All I can come up with is that if the attack was successful the US would have an immediate knee jerk reaction (which they did) and GWB's guys would demand that the USA launch wars in the ME in Iraq, Iran, and perhaps Syria... and maybe Yemen? Essentially make the region more comfortable for SA? If this is true it is like a SA false flag which the US fell for... if they didn't they hid the info of who was financing it because GWB was looking for an excuse to finish of Saddam... and the Saudi's gave it to him... along with his WMD lies...
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19th April 2016, 04:42 AM | #4 |
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There is. Try looking.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=297608 This is in fact a rather old topic that has been beaten to death for years - like most of them. |
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19th April 2016, 04:42 AM | #5 |
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It is most likely a case of the Saudi's (the family, individual princes, their secret service etc) being constantly busy supporting the Wahabi cause.
They may have been handing out cash without knowing exactly what would happen with it. Like the Pakistani secret service supporting all sorts of Islamist nutjobs on principle, and then finding out that their objectives don't align with yours. Possibly the big story here is not the 9/11 attacks, but the bigger picture of SA spreading ideological poison and fanatical enemy organisations into our (Western) and other (Indonesia, Pakistan etc) societies. |
19th April 2016, 11:27 AM | #6 |
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19th April 2016, 04:12 PM | #7 |
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Well when a regime's legitimacy is predicated on not just providing for the defense of the two holiest cities of Islam, but upholding the ultra-puritanical strain of Islam known as Wahhabism (remember, the alliance between the House of Saud and the Wahhabi clerics dates back to the 1700s, IIRC), and when said regime has systematically eliminated (or attempted to eliminate, anyway) any and all threats to their rule - as well as dissenting views from the ruling Wahhabi orthodoxy; and when that regime reveals itself to be not just in strategic alliance with the Western infidels, but incredibly corrupt and hypocritical in the behavior of its own rulers (e.g., the lavish, Westernized lifestyles of many Saudi royals and other elite businessmen), is it any surprise that many Saudi citizens will grow frustrated and angry with both the hypocritical, corrupt, and absolutist dictators that rule their country, as well as the "Great Satan" of the United States and other Western countries that ally with the House of Saud?
Under the particular conditions of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia - a population deeply indoctrinated in Wahhabi ideology, no civil society to speak of (other than rabidly Wahhabist mosques), and prospects for economic advancement being few and far between - the potential for an uprising is dangerously high. But such an uprising, far from being a remotely secular, liberal, or democratic revolution, would be an even more aggressively - and violently - Wahhabist, and openly anti-Western, in alignment with the likes of al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, and ISIS. Given these conditions, the inclination of the House of Saud has not been to liberalize or introduce substantive reforms, but to export the Kingdom's ruling Wahhabism all over the world. This serves two functions: first, it keeps the home-grown Saudi jihadists away from the Kingdom, where they are no longer an immediate threat to the ruling family. Second, it shores up the legitimacy of the House of Saud in the eyes of both the Wahhabist clerics - who are incredibly influential within Saudi society - as well as many devout Sunni Muslims around the world, who have increasingly looked to Wahhabism as the standard by which all Muslims ought to be measured. Thus, it does not surprise me in the slightest that members of the House of Saud, other Saudi government officials (perhaps especially in the military as well as the intelligence and foreign affairs services), Saudi "charities" that were easily infiltrated by operatives from Al-Qaeda and other jihadist organizations), and fabulously wealthy Saudi businessmen have donated generous sums of money over the years to all kinds of Wahhabist (or Wahhabi-influenced) individuals and organizations. And it does not surprise me at all that some of that money ended up in the hands of the 9/11 hijackers. The real scandal here is the fact that the U.S. government has been allied for so long with this brutally dictatorial regime that has cynically exported the ideology and the organizations that have directly given rise to the most dangerous terrorist organizations in the world. |
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