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13th February 2013, 08:45 PM | #361 |
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Mock outrage will get you nowhere, but it will allow you to avoid critical thinking. I have learned quite a bit about the WTC and the tenants over the years, you might say I'm an expert. You aren't.
We have a crash investigator who has done nothing but insult me, so what? He hasn't lifted a finger to try to state his case beyond stomping around shouting"I'm a crash inspector!". I can understand his being upset, what with a non-credentialed, charming fellow like me showing him up, but I can't help it if he doen't know how to explain why the authorities and the Truth movement would insist the fires were so hot. sI have a good explantion for it - they lied, which begs the question, what wiped out the buildings if it wasn't fires "so intense the concrete melted"? |
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Well, the item in question is on display. At least it's showing in the slide show on their website: http://www.nycpm.org/exhibitions/911/index.html
I can't read the sign though. Website also says they are currently closed because of Sandy. I'm really curious to know what they'd have to say about it. |
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It's still up?
Dang - I honestly thought it was closed. Here is the link to the closeup images of the exhibit from the archives - the way it once was. If they haven't changed the exhibit, if they're still claiming the fires were hot enough to melt concrete, well that'll definitely be worth a phone call. http://archive.org/details/NewYorkPo...mWtcGunsMelted |
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Actualy, you have two crash and fire investigators checking your work and dismissing your "evidence" as examples of your gross ignoranceof the subject matter.
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That was my point....that the force applied by the wing was greater than the column could react to, thus the column failed and the mass of the wing continued onward.
But the poo flinger likes to take things out of context and quote mine as if that somehow provides evidence of his fantasy. |
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The bigger problem is you, me and just about everyone else out there is tired of responding to the same tired old fantasies by troofers. Then you get a Google U. graduate that takes the short cut answers and tries to spin into some sort of proof that their woo is true. |
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Repitition-ion-ion-ion Helloo-oo-oo-oo Steve, putting your imaginary missiles to one side for a minute, what kind of explosives do you think the towers were rigged with? |
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I'd still like to know if I'm part of the conspiracy or even if I exist at all, since my company isn't part of a database. Maybe I can go home early?
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You have demonstrated in virtually every one the 855 (and counting) posts you've made since joining here last month that your claims of expertise are not only false but delusional. You are in the throes of a baseless obsession and are therefore incapable of rational debate. |
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That's the funny thing, according to yank's unique interpretation of physics, bullets won't work because lead is so soft compared to much of what bullets go through. Just as an example of the forces involved in bullets, I was once shooting at a sheet steel sled with my various guns. When I shot it with my 12 gauge (00 buck) I noticed nine holes and a large dent that wasn't there previously. On the ground in front of the sled was the plastic thingie in shotgun shells. So this lightweight, not too aerodynamic (they slow significantly out of the muzzle) chunk of plastic was able to put a significant dent in steel because of its velocity. |
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I propose that Truthers take Chemistry, Physics, and Strength of Materials 101, before they engage in any discussions regarding 9-11. Otherwise they just end up looking like silly fools.
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If you insist harping on our condescension, you might want to learn how to spell it. That red line that appears under the word every time you type it? That is a little something called spellcheck and while it isn't always right, it is usually worth paying attention to. It isn't trying to make you look foolish by correcting you, in fact it is trying to prevent you from looking foolish, in the same way that I am trying to prevent you from looking foolish. Clearly we are both failing you miserably in that regard. At the risk of appearing condescending, let me help you out: You have posted 860 posts since joining here on January 31st, 2013, averaging 62.12 posts per day. I have posted 4,167 posts since joining here on August 10th, 2008, averaging 2.53 posts per day. |
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