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Old 4th February 2013, 06:50 PM   #81
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"do your research"
Oklay, so which post shall I move it to; isn't that what the mods are for?
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Old 4th February 2013, 07:27 PM   #82
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Oklay, so which post shall I move it to; isn't that what the mods are for?

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?act=idx

Have you been banned here yet, at Balsamo's School of Stupid Pilots? Pilots for truth could use some help, their DVDs filled with similar idiotic claims to your failed claims are suffering from slow sales. You could save them from the pit of ignorance, and mover to new lows.

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Oklay, so which post shall I move it to; isn't that what the mods are for?
I'm sure if you asked the mods, you'd get the answer you've earned.
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Thank you! Good night!
You're welcome.
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Anyone?

Were the fires hot enough to melt concrete or not?
Have you or anyone posted the temperature at which concrete becomes 'molten'? Does concrete ever become molten at any temperature while at sea level pressure?

Seems to me that concrete, being an amalgamation of several constituents, it would first disassociate into its constituents , each of which would have differing melting points, some of which would vapourize or even sublimate at atmospheric pressures and extremely high temp and it simply then could not reconstitute in concrete again.

One of the first things to actually disappear at very high temps would be the quartz in the aggregate. It would vapourize and blow away.

I don't have time to look right now but I hope someone stundied something in this thread.

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We’ve all heard the stories about the brave FDNY and the rivers of molten steel. The fire department is presented as hero-victims of 9/11 ais therefore beyond suspicion and reproach, as is their claim of molten steel. Second only to the FDNY on the sympathy scale is the NYPD, but what many people don’t know is not only was steel in the sky turned molten by kerosene on 9/11, but according to the NYPD, it also melted concrete a thousand feet below and not only that but after it cooled, it solidified back into concrete, encasing firearms therein.



So without the NYPD, we would have very few photographs of plane parts, and without the FDNY and FEMA we’d have very few stories of “rivers of molten steel”, but here the New York Police Museum gets into the game and offers this display of firearms encased in concrete that became so hot it turned to "lava" and then re-solidified, encasing handguns stored in an evidence room in the Customs office in WTC6.
Wow! So, the key to the Inside Jobby isn't WTCs 1 & 2, nor even WTC 7, it's WTC 6! Nucular-powered, Super-Duper Ultra-Mega Nanothermite in the port customs house! After 11 years, it's finally all becoming clear!
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SPAM Attack by 451?

Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Corruption in big-city police departments is legendary. ...

Yank
We got his crap from his web site of woo on 911.
Cut and paste.

http://yankee451.com/2012/07/15/963/

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Right here is simple proof the police lied, so if they lied about the concrete, what else did they lie about? Bernie Kerik will be out of the slam next year, perhaps we should ask him.
What a bunch of hogwash.

Next time size your plagiarized photo to smaller sizes - like 800 pixels or so.

Why does your video,
http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shan...ictional-dead/
Reminds me of this
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You make up fantasy, they made up fantasy.

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SPAM Attack by 451?
... as if it were a question.
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Wow! So, the key to the Inside Jobby isn't WTCs 1 & 2, nor even WTC 7, it's WTC 6! Nucular-powered, Super-Duper Ultra-Mega Nanothermite in the port customs house! After 11 years, it's finally all becoming clear!
Nothing about the article.
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Wow! So, the key to the Inside Jobby isn't WTCs 1 & 2, nor even WTC 7, it's WTC 6! Nucular-powered, Super-Duper Ultra-Mega Nanothermite in the port customs house! After 11 years, it's finally all becoming clear!


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OP photos Debunk No-Plane Missile Fantasy

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Corruption in big-city police departments is legendary. ... Yank
LOL, this has what to do with 911? Nothing.
A thread with no goal.

But you go on to full blown crazy fantasies about 911. No planes, missiles too small to do the KE damage seen on 911. Lost on simile, about melted steel, etc. Anti-police, anti-intellectual, and ironically posting photos which proves a 767 hit the WTC.

Self-Debunking your silly fantasy while ranting about your biases against police, firefighters, and others.
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No, because you're too smart for that.

So you agree then there's no way fires were so hot they melted concrete and there's no way "thermal hotspots were caused by thousands of gallons of fuel buried beneath the rubble".
Of course. Neither of thiose statements are true. There were TONS of Class A fuels in the pile.
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I didn't put up a stinking museum exhibit, the police did that - you'd think THEIR lab analysis would be enough for you.

So were they wrong about the molten concrete or not?
DERP! Of course they were wrong. All but a few trolls who come in here to sell ******** think that there was melted concrete anywhere on site.
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It doesn't take a forensic scientist to notice that most people still believe the B.S. about intense fires burning for months after 9/11, but now no one has any proof to sustain that nonsense, it was all an officially propagated rumor. There's your official record for you.
Oh, but the fires were horrendously hot for a long, long time. They melted tons of brass, lead and aluminum.

What is so strange about that?
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DERP! Of course they were wrong. All but a few trolls who come in here to sell ******** think that there was melted concrete anywhere on site.
They were not just wrong about something so fundamentally bogus as the claim that the fires were so intense the concrete "melted" and then cooled back into concrete, they created a museum exhibit! School children at the time who are now adults STILL BELIEVE THE FIRES WERE SO INTENSE THE CONCRETE MELTED!

My sincere question to you is simple.

Were they incompetent or lying?
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Oh, but the fires were horrendously hot for a long, long time. They melted tons of brass, lead and aluminum.

What is so strange about that?
Nope.

Didn't happen. It's an old wives' tale just like the concrete.
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The police created a museum exhibit that claimed the fires were so intense the concrete melted, then cooled back into concrete, encasing guns that should have meen melted by the molten concrete they were incased in.


Single question opinion poll:

Were the police incompetent or lying?
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Corruption ... Yank
Is that like someone making up lies about 911 and ignoring reality like your claims?

Why do you spread lies and fantasy about 911? Corruption? Is that your goal?

The OP, copy and pasted from some delusional web site full of failed conspiracy theories.
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Single question opinion poll:

Were the police incompetent or lying?

No, they weren't.


ETA - Did you read these links?

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No, they weren't.


ETA - Did you read these links?
No - we're on this one. Have you read it?
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
The police created a museum exhibit that claimed the fires were so intense the concrete melted, then cooled back into concrete, encasing guns that should have meen melted by the molten concrete they were incased in.


Single question opinion poll:

Were the police incompetent or lying?
How many cops have you met that were experts in the physical sciences?
"incompetent" nice how you pick such a derogatory term. No surprise there. Unqualified to make such a statement...absolutely. But that happens in all walks of life - Richard Gage for example, Stephen Jones, Charlie Sheen, etc. etc. etc.
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The police created a museum exhibit that claimed the fires were so intense the concrete melted, then cooled back into concrete, encasing guns that should have meen melted by the molten concrete they were incased in.


Single question opinion poll:

Were the police incompetent or lying?
Both!

And it proves that 9/11 was a government conspiracy!

Good work, yank! You should submit your findings to all the news networks so we can expose GWB once and for all!
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Old 8th February 2013, 09:46 AM   #103
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
No - we're on this one.

And very silly it is too.


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Have you read it?

Yep, I noticed you were asking questions that have been asked before, so I provided links to relevant threads.



I'm really too nice, that's my problem
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Both!

And it proves that 9/11 was a government conspiracy!

Good work, yank! You should submit your findings to all the news networks so we can expose GWB once and for all!
So you think the police are both lying and incompetent.

What about the networks you refer to - the ones that broadcast the cartoon jets. Incompetent or lying?
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Anyone willing to seriously answer the question or are personal attacks and sarcasm all I can expect?

The police claimed the fires were so intense the concrete melted. They even built a museum exhibit to display their unscientific conclusions.

Were they incompetent or lying?
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So you think the police are both lying and incompetent.
Sure do!

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What about the networks you refer to - the ones that broadcast the cartoon jets. Incompetent or lying?
Naw. The MSM have obviously been run by the Zionistic government since WWII. They don't know any better, they just love a good story, for ratings, ya know!

Seriously, you should send your findings to them. I'm sure they would run with the info as a way to show the public how much of a tool GWB really was. Heck, the proof might be enough to get an indictment!

I mean, this was an obvious home grown attack so GWB could declare marshal law. Hell, he got the whole country to ground the planes for almost a week! But he didn't sweep up all the details properly so he could finish his plan. He belongs in jail for the rest of his life!
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Sure do!


Naw. The MSM have obviously been run by the Zionistic government since WWII. They don't know any better, they just love a good story, for ratings, ya know!

Seriously, you should send your findings to them. I'm sure they would run with the info as a way to show the public how much of a tool GWB really was. Heck, the proof might be enough to get an indictment!

I mean, this was an obvious home grown attack so GWB could declare marshal law. Hell, he got the whole country to ground the planes for almost a week! But he didn't sweep up all the details properly so he could finish his plan. He belongs in jail for the rest of his life!
Sarcasm. see ya.
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Sarcasm. see ya.
For real? What makes you think I was being sarcastic?
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No one?

Were the police incompetent or lying when they claimed the fires were so hot the concrete melted?

What else were they incompetent or lying about?

Anyone?
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Were the police incompetent or lying when they claimed the fires were so hot the concrete melted?
No evidence police made claim!
Bzzzt! Try again!
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Anyone willing to seriously answer the question or are personal attacks and sarcasm all I can expect?

The police claimed the fires were so intense the concrete melted. They even built a museum exhibit to display their unscientific conclusions.

Were they incompetent or lying?
Whoever wrote that notice didn't know what they were talking about. The gun did not end up encased in resolidified molten concrete, as the concrete never melted in the first place. This has been explained previously.

But, hey, people get careless.
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Whoever wrote that notice didn't know what they were talking about. The gun did not end up encased in resolidified molten concrete, as the concrete never melted in the first place. This has been explained previously.

But, hey, people get careless.
It was "careless" to build a museum exhibit based on bogus science, thanks to which whole generations of humans still believe the fires were so hot the concrete melted?

Considering we went to war over this stuff, and the police also supplied most of the evidence of plane parts, it's also careless to "hand-waive" such carelessness.
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It was "careless" to build a museum exhibit based on bogus science, thanks to which whole generations of humans still believe the fires were so hot the concrete melted?

Considering we went to war over this stuff, and the police also supplied most of the evidence of plane parts, it's also careless to "hand-waive" such carelessness.
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
They were not just wrong about something so fundamentally bogus as the claim that the fires were so intense the concrete "melted" and then cooled back into concrete, they created a museum exhibit! School children at the time who are now adults STILL BELIEVE THE FIRES WERE SO INTENSE THE CONCRETE MELTED!

My sincere question to you is simple.

Were they incompetent or lying?
There are also some completely retarded idiots who think military ordinance that didn't exist were involved.

are they incompetent or lying?
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There are also some completely retarded idiots who think military ordinance that didn't exist were involved.

are they incompetent or lying?
Ridicule, avoiding questions, ignoring the evidence - nice talking to you.
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Ridicule, avoiding questions, ignoring the evidence - nice talking to you.

I bet you say that to all the forums



ETA - did you get a chance to look through those links?

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He's about to "ignore" himself into a monologue.
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I bet you say that to all the forums



ETA - did you get a chance to look through those links?
I've answered you multiple times. Nice talking to you.
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I've answered you multiple times. Nice talking to you.

You've typed words, but you haven't answered.

Small difference
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The police created a museum exhibit that claimed the fires were so intense the concrete melted, then cooled back into concrete, encasing guns that should have meen melted by the molten concrete they were incased in.


Single question opinion poll:

Were the police incompetent or lying?
While I'm sure he could easily tell the difference between a Glock and a Browning pistol, the curator of the police museum is/was not competent to tell if concrete "melted" or not. This demonstrates the dangers of venturing beyond one's field of competence. (Hint, hint - know thyself, Yankee).

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It was "careless" to build a museum exhibit based on bogus science, thanks to which whole generations of humans still believe the fires were so hot the concrete melted?

Considering we went to war over this stuff, and the police also supplied most of the evidence of plane parts, it's also careless to "hand-waive" such carelessness.
The U.S. didn't go to war over whether or not there was melted concrete in the police museum display, any more than whether or not the notorious "WTC Meteorite" had "melted steel" in it. (It didn't.) Whether or not the U.S. had casus belli under international law is another manner.
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