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15th June 2011, 10:52 AM | #601 |
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15th June 2011, 10:55 AM | #602 |
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Limbo,
Do some people believe themselves to have super-natural powers, but are mistaken in that belief? Using your methodology, how could that be determined? |
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15th June 2011, 11:13 AM | #604 |
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15th June 2011, 11:30 AM | #605 |
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You are amazing Limbo. Not only are you above all of us uneducated JREFers because you read books that agreed with your beliefs, but you're way beyond the English language by declaring a commonly used word obsolete. You truly do deserve to feel like you're better than all of us. I would recommend you write a book, but no one at JREF would read it
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15th June 2011, 11:40 AM | #606 |
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Limbo,
Do some people believe themselves to have Using your methodology, how could that be determined? |
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"Faith in what?" he asked himself, adrift in limbo. "Faith in faith," he replied. "It isn't necessary to have something to believe in. It's only necessary to believe that somewhere there's something worthy of belief." |
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15th June 2011, 12:04 PM | #608 |
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15th June 2011, 12:19 PM | #609 |
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Sure it can. Like I said I proved it to myself by witnessing many instances of veridical psi over the past couple of years. You can do it too but science and Randi can't help you. You have to become a mystic and you have to devote a lot of time and effort and mental alchemy to it and most people just aren't up to it. Especially people like the average JREFer. |
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"Faith in what?" he asked himself, adrift in limbo. "Faith in faith," he replied. "It isn't necessary to have something to believe in. It's only necessary to believe that somewhere there's something worthy of belief." |
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15th June 2011, 12:27 PM | #610 |
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15th June 2011, 12:29 PM | #611 |
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Of course the plus side of playing on Randi's team is that we believe that Western medicine works so it does work for us and we get healed.
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15th June 2011, 12:55 PM | #616 |
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OK I'll try. You have to be in a psi-conducive state of mind. You have to have a psi-conducive attitude, environment, and worldview. These are the ingredients of the mental alchemy. There are a lot of variables that can inhibit psi and they have to be minimized. The cynical disbelief of the JREF skeptic being a prime example. |
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"Faith in what?" he asked himself, adrift in limbo. "Faith in faith," he replied. "It isn't necessary to have something to believe in. It's only necessary to believe that somewhere there's something worthy of belief." |
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15th June 2011, 01:16 PM | #617 |
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Psi-conducive state of mind, worldview, attitude = Stoned
Psi-conducive environment = Dark room with blacklight posters and no sharp objects. Preferably with pizza on the way. What a load of crap, but it's nice that it makes you feel superior to everyone. |
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15th June 2011, 01:25 PM | #619 |
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Joey your last few posts have really sucked so I think I'll go ahead and put you on ignore now. Bye.
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"Faith in what?" he asked himself, adrift in limbo. "Faith in faith," he replied. "It isn't necessary to have something to believe in. It's only necessary to believe that somewhere there's something worthy of belief." |
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15th June 2011, 01:35 PM | #620 |
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Oh hey I thought you did that pages ago when you didn't reply to my rebuttal which was markedly more serious than my recent attempts at skewering and mocking your bizarre appeals to emotion.
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15th June 2011, 06:23 PM | #626 |
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Unfortunately, what you specify here is not distinguishable by anyone but yourself from delusion, and since people who are delusional cannot be depended on to make the distinction themselves, we're back where we started. Even if everything you say is true, and even if your experiences are genuine, real and deep, you have no argument. I wonder why you bother at all.
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15th June 2011, 08:06 PM | #627 |
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What I don't understand is why the PSI folks don't just believe that their PSI powers are 10,000 times stronger than skeptic powers and overwhelm us. After all it is not about an independent reality. Why don't they create a reality where PSI power is, you know, actually powerful?
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16th June 2011, 12:37 AM | #637 |
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Aaaand out comes a post full of superior attitude, a book that happens to agree with you and not a single factual argument. What DOES it take? 'Cause so far, all you're promoting is self-delusion, narcisstic fantasies and a smug refusal to provide any evidence of those mighty mind-powers you've gained by levelling up in the "Mysticism" skill-tree. Also, why would you ask my approval on your participation in the discussion? Sure, you managed to turn my genuine interest into annoyance in just half-a-dozen rude replies, but that doesn't mean I'm not amused by hearing you shout out your message of "PSI is real! I can do stuff! Now stop asking!" |
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