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Old 16th September 2020, 06:27 AM   #1
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CIA Analyst goes off the deep end

Years ago, just post-911, I read CIA Analyst Michael Schueur’s book, “Imperial Hubris”. He was the agent in charge of “Project Bin Laden” and was primarily involved in tracking the guy.

I thought the book made some good points, primarily that in the face of the common (and Bush Administration) idea that this was a religiously-motivated attack, it was instead a political act, a protest against US policies in the region.

However, in recent years, it appears that Schueur has drunk the Q-anon kool-aid and the Trump conspiracy nonsense as well... Openly calling for violence against “Democrats”:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/michae...ticles&via=rss

Pretty disturbing stuff, making you wonder just how deeply this stuff has infected people across the board.
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Old 16th September 2020, 07:46 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Bikewer View Post
Years ago, just post-911, I read CIA Analyst Michael Schueur’s book, “Imperial Hubris”. He was the agent in charge of “Project Bin Laden” and was primarily involved in tracking the guy.

I thought the book made some good points, primarily that in the face of the common (and Bush Administration) idea that this was a religiously-motivated attack, it was instead a political act, a protest against US policies in the region.

However, in recent years, it appears that Schueur has drunk the Q-anon kool-aid and the Trump conspiracy nonsense as well... Openly calling for violence against “Democrats”:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/michae...ticles&via=rss

Pretty disturbing stuff, making you wonder just how deeply this stuff has infected people across the board.
That is a truly horrifying read. So many parallels with Nazi rhetoric in Germany in the 1930s.
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Old 16th September 2020, 10:13 AM   #3
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Article is behind a paywall. Is this guy still employed by the CIA, and how deep down the Q-anon rabbit-hole are we talking?
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Old 16th September 2020, 10:15 AM   #4
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Old 16th September 2020, 10:17 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by uke2se View Post
Article is behind a paywall. Is this guy still employed by the CIA, and how deep down the Q-anon rabbit-hole are we talking?
He retired before he wrote the book. Went through the process to get the book cleared pretty fast. Probably a lot of support in the bureaucracy for his POV at the time. Haven't followed him for the last 15 years or so.
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Old 16th September 2020, 11:08 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by uke2se View Post
Article is behind a paywall. Is this guy still employed by the CIA, and how deep down the Q-anon rabbit-hole are we talking?
I'm using Firefox. I can switch to Reader View and beat most firewalls. I presume there is a similar add on available in other browsers.
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Old 16th September 2020, 11:09 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by uke2se View Post
Article is behind a paywall. Is this guy still employed by the CIA, and how deep down the Q-anon rabbit-hole are we talking?
I don't think it is. Just click "close" on the box that comes up. Or try clearing your cookies.

And the guy is a raging, raving lunatic, probably truly certifiable.
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But the conspiracy was less important than what it licensed: “Personally, I would prefer immediate and lethal, post-trial punishment —by loyal-citizen firing squads chosen by lottery,” he wrote. Targets included the “Kenya-born” Obama, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, John Brennan, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, Russiagate’s Christopher Steele and leading congressional Democrats. Other hit lists include journalists, academics, “any police chief or officer” who supports police budget cuts, and “all medical doctors, teachers, and teacher unions advocating the continued closure of schools across the republic,” which Scheuer sees as commensurate with the predations of Jeffrey Epstein and, allegedly, Ghislane Maxwell. “There is no Constitutional protection for U.S. citizens who wage war against their country, especially those who enlist foreign governments to assist them,” Scheuer judged—meaning not the “Russia, if you’re listening” president, but Trump’s opponents.
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Old 16th September 2020, 11:15 AM   #8
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One thing I can assure you.

The more someone advocates for a trigger finger solution to social problems the less they know about the actual subject matter.
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Old 16th September 2020, 12:07 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Bikewer View Post
Pretty disturbing stuff, making you wonder just how deeply this stuff has infected people across the board.
I've been saying Scheuer is a nut for more than 15 years. Welcome to the club.
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