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15th May 2012, 05:17 AM | #1 |
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I was going to start a thread about this. I hope the idiot gets serious time.
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15th May 2012, 05:38 AM | #3 |
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15th May 2012, 05:44 AM | #5 |
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He is an interesting case. I am strongly against whale hunting, I think it's abhorrant and serves no useful purpose.
However I always root for the whalers against this guy. I found it hilarious when they sunk his ship. It just goes to show if you're loony enough, having a good cause in principal isn't enough if you're going to behave like a complete helmet all the time. Reminds me of PETA a bit as they're another group people despise despite fundamentally being against animal cruelty. |
15th May 2012, 05:44 AM | #6 |
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Enlighten me.
What is causing people to have such a low opinion of this man? I've only seen one of those Whale Wars episodes. His ship stalking a Japanese whaler and trying to get between them and the whale. I don't like fanatical enviro weenies. But I'm on the fence about protecting whales from the Japanese consumer. Can't they just get their fish from a frigging fish farm and make their kick-ass cameras and bondage porn in peace? |
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15th May 2012, 06:11 AM | #10 |
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im proud to have donated money to them. I hope they get bigger ships that can sink whale hunter boats.
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They lost me when they started going after tuna fishermen.
Tuna? Really? |
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Heh, this guy singlehanded turned me into a supporter of the whaling business with his TV show.
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I can't believe it took this long. Don't you need to be licensed to be a ship captain? If so, how the hell does this assclown keep his?
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15th May 2012, 08:46 AM | #18 |
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shorn bow
It sounds as if this canal runs both ways. Link. "Bethune was at the helm of the Sea Shepherd boat when its bow was shorn off by Japanese whaling ship Shonan Maru 2 in waters off the frozen continent in January." I am not sure what transpired before this.
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15th May 2012, 09:07 AM | #19 |
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You can watch the video here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/9069635.stm Those big boats don't brake very quickly if you dart a much smaller craft in it's way. |
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I'll be happy to enlighten you on why I personally hate Sea Shepard and Paul Watson. For one thing...they are vigilantes...they take the law into their own hands..rather than letting the appropriate authorities deal with it. They also engage in extremely dangerous behavior that puts not only their own crew, but the crew of other ships at risk. Here's a video of them ramming another ship:
This was not an accident...it was an intentional act. They could have easily knocked a hole in the other ship's hull, causing it's sinking...and possibly causing the death of some or all of it's crew. Here's another one where they ram a tuna cage, and injure two fisherman:
They are quite proud of destruction they cause... Here's a photo of the side of their ship where they brag about the number of vessels they have sunk, in the same way fighter pilots display their kills on the sides of their aircraft : They are a dangerously reckless group of Eco-terrorists...and it's miracle they haven't killed someone yet. |
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I've always found it telling that representatives of the American Humane Society have been quoted speaking out against PETA. When the organization that actually DOES protect animals thinks you are a bunch of useless freaks you have a problem.
When was the last time you heard of PETA working together with law enforcement to shut down a dog-fighting ring? Or rescue all the dogs from a puppy mill? No, sorry, that's the Humane Society. They know how to actually get things done. |
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Really? Let's look at the video:
Look at the back of the Ady Gill from the beginning of the video to around 07 second mark. Virtually no prop wash, and the Japanese boat is well to the left of their vessel. Then look what happens around the 14-15 second mark. The prop wash dramatically increases, and the boat begins to move forward...right into the path of the Japanese vessel. |
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What wake are you referring to? They're idling - then the Japanese whaling vessel turns right into them. Only then do you see the Ady Gil try to get out of the way. This can't be interpreted any other way!
I guess we need another view....
It's pretty clear that whaling ship turned right into the Ady Gil. |
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Whatever happened to jojoba oil? It was supposed to be a superior alternative to whale oil? I also wonder that bioengineering can't be sued to create a plant-based oil superior to whale oil. Destroy the market for whale oil, and whaling should be greatly reduced.
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It's also pretty clear that the Ady Gil was moving forward.
This is what an intentional ramming looks like:
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For some reason I can't open that last video you posted.
And yes, the Ady Gil was moving, about as fast as my cat can walk. There is NO DOUBT that the whaling vessel rammed the Ady Gil on purpose. None. For crying out loud, they turned so sharply the damn thing almost went horizontal! |
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You are correct, the video I saw started too late and the boat moving was from being dragged.
I do know that the accepted maneuver for two boats under power avoiding head on collision, or against another boat you are on the port side of, is a starboard turn, the former situation resulting in a port to port passage, the latter opening up your closest point of which is what was performed. If the small boat wants to confuse a large vessel and stop directly in it's way, it should expect to get rammed. Had they been of the same class of ship or boat, the whaler would have had to yield. |
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Lets see the look of evil on the face of the dastardly Pete Bethune, as he steers his own ship into the gaping maw of the unsuspecting Japanese whalers:
That is the face of a man intent on doing something deadly to himself and his crew, eh? OR It could have been the look of a guy relaxing after taking on fuel from the Bob Barker, about 10 seconds before the biggest WTF moment of his life. |
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both to blame
Link here:
The director of Maritime New Zealand, Catherine Taylor, said the Japanese skipper initially had responsibility for keeping his vessel clear of the Ady Gil as the overtaking vessel. "He had ample opportunity to avoid the close quarters situation that subsequently developed, but failed to do so," she said. He also "failed to take positive and ample action to avoid colliding with Ady Gil". But once the vessels were at close quarters, the captain of the Ady Gil "failed to respond by taking appropriate evasive action – choosing instead to maintain his course and speed, which allowed the close quarters situation to develop into a collision risk", Taylor said. |
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And that's the evidence of "authorities" not doing a damn thing. They're afraid of Japan. The crew of the Ady Gil was resting on the outside of the ship - it wasn't a matter of maintaing their course and speed. They were just sitting there. The video doesn't lie. The video taken from the Ady Gil shows this quite clearly.
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I'll be happy if this loser gets thrown in jail - the longer the happier.
I'm glad he's at least apparently decided to shift his fleet to these smaller boats; his using that bigger ship to ram whalers and tuna fishermen was a serious threat to life and limb and the maniac clearly doesn't belong behind the wheel of any vessel. |
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despite wether you're pro whaling or against it, Paul Watson is apparently a horrible person, thats why people have a low opinion of him, people didn't have such a low opinion before his antics were televised. He's a media whore who faked being shot to boost ratings for a season finale
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So..Noah...how does Sea Shepherd justify acts like this?
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