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12th September 2012, 12:50 AM | #1 |
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Well, there should be a bunch of new in a few hours. Including the release date:
http://technology.gather.com/viewArt...81474981626018
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Also, that link above should be updated with news as it happens at 1PM EST. Thankfully they are ditching the "no number" "just call it new" stunt that they pulled with the iPad "don't call it 3": http://www.techradar.com/us/news/pho...rumours-721534
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------------ Just to start the trashtalking off, I would note that we all have been seeing for weeks (unless you completely avoid the news) dozens of articles about how the iPhone 5 will be a "catch up" phone. Almost every new feature it will have is already on the Samsung phones (and other Android phones). (Apple needs to hurry up and get those features out there so they can sue Samsung for copying them. ) Anyway, this new article sums up many of those features we have been hearing about: iPhone 5: 10 Rumored Features You'll Already Find in Competing Devices |
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I'll buy one, but only because my three-year-old iPhone 3GS is starting to show signs of age. I figure it's time for an upgrade.
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That is a good point. It is my understanding that there are tons of 3GS users that skipped 4 and 4S completely.
Either they had 3GS since launch way back when (09?), or else they got it more recently in the 4/4S era because it was dirt cheap. Almost all of them have been waiting for this day. So add to that the die-hards that update ASAP every time there is a new version.... We are going to be looking at huge iPhone 5 sales numbers. They need it. Android/Samsung have been absolutely gobbling up the smart phone market share: Apple is seriously hoping this (3GS users like Vermonter) is one of the reasons, if not the main reason, why they have been losing market share. |
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the law of big numbers is kicking in for Apple now, they've come so far up that breathing is getting harder and they are fighting a technically superior enemy (The Gorg)
losing ground on O/S, input costs driving margin compression, and have never disappointed properly on earnings yet... AAPL the big short, some day.. |
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12th September 2012, 05:34 AM | #6 |
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"Beleaguered Apple" - A meme I have been hearing for two decades now.
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12th September 2012, 05:41 AM | #8 |
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After five years they're changing the connector to make it a third of the size and make precious room, when every square millimeter counts, on the inside. It's a good thing. And you could always buy an adapter (rumored on MacRumors to be 10 bucks).
One thing I'm disappointed with is that the screen is only taller and not wider as well. I don't know if this was done for old app compatibility or what but I loved the proportions of the 4" screen on my Droid X (though I hated the phone). |
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09..._five_reasons/
" Owning it will mark you out as an easily-led simpleton - and worse, the purchase will undermine western democracy." Classic calm balanced stuff from el Reg. |
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I was hoping for something astonishing, or really innovative and this doesn't deliver that. For me it's like the S3, nice phone but just a tech refresh dressed up.
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I've read some interesting columns on tech blogs recently saying that maybe we've entered the period of incremental changes instead of astonishing leaps forward from one gen to the next.
and ETA: The three things you probably would notice the most have gotten pretty big bumps...faster chip, bigger screen, 4G |
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LTE, meh, Samsung and others have been selling LTE phones for over a year. 4 inch screen? Meh, Samsung and others have been selling phones with 4 inch or larger displays for over two years.
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I'd argue we've been there since before the first iPhone came out.
Blackberrys Palms and Windows CE smart phones could perform all the functions the iPhone did and more (MMS & Video were not built in to the first iPhone). They just didn't do it as nicely. The appearance of the iPhone was the huge leap. Eliminating the keyboard and stylus, introducing gestures instead of taps, multitouch... I wouldn't call and of those individually astonishing leaps. I guess all combined in one device did make it a fairly big leap, but the core functionality (phone calls, text messages, email, web surfing and listening to music) were all things people could do on existing smart phones and even many (what we now call) feature phones. And as each new version of the iPhone comes out has there really been any huge technology leap? Siri doesn't count; it was avaialable as a download prior to the 4S release (though they disabled the old version after the 4S was released). |
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All machines go through a period of great engineering diversity at their inceptions, and then fall into a form that persists often as long as devices of that sort are made.
Steam engines were very, very diverse at the beginning, but quickly all followed the same pattern of design laid down by "Rocket" and with very few exceptions remained in that pattern until the end of steam. So too the pocket computer. We call them "phones" but they stopped being mere phones. I believe that they have found their stable form, and that form looks just like an iPhone. I do not expect many revolutions in this space, just improvements. |
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It turns out the adapter is $30 or $40, depending on the type you want.
Don't look for a cheaper non-Apple version either, not allowed. |
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Meh.
When someone complains about 'swappable batteries' an I ask them about their own phone/laptop and how many extra batteries they carry, the answer has always been zero. I understand that is anecdotal evidence, but there it is anyway. Besides, external batteries/battery powered chargers can be had that serve the same purpose, so I don't even see how that is a valid issue. If you must carry all your data on external memory cards, I guess you are SOL if you want an iphone. I don't see how this affects the average iphone user, but I would love to hear about all the use cases average users have for carrying their data on memory cards with no other way to access it ... |
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I was wow'd by the first iphones but they have lost the wow factor in the last couple of releases and especially this one compared with the competition. Just for one example the Nokia 920 generates wows with interesting looks, a touch screen you can use with ski gloves, and wireless charging. That doesn't necessarily mean it is a good phone or that the iphone 5 is a bad phone but my reaction to recent apple announcements has been "meh", not something I am used to associating with them even if I have never been a fanboy.
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I don't carry an extra battery for my G1, but when my old one would no longer hold a charge, it sure was nice to be able to replace it myself.
I thought this was an eye opener: http://mashable.com/2012/09/12/iphone-5-compared/ |
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I think it would be better if it ran Android, instead of their older, self-built, proprietary operating system.
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I'm not blown away by the new iPhone, but I'll probably still get one anyway, simply due to there being no reasonable alternatives. Android has an acceptable app catalog, but no nice hardware (expecting perhaps HTC's One X), where as Nokia's Windows Phone hardware is gorgeous, but the platform just isn't mature enough for my needs.
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Could you please not dishonestly snip my posts?
The "They need it." was clearly related to the rest of the post. TheL8Elvis likely knew this but yet disingenuously snipped it to contain the unrelated first half of the post and not the 2nd half. Here is the rest of the post TheL8Elvis intentionally left out. The "They need it." in that context clearly means "if they want to stop losing ground in phone and phone OS market share". For the past 2 quarters it appears that Apple is going to eventually end up with about a 5 to 10% market share, just like with PCs. TheL8Elvis tries to make it seem like I meant that Apple is going poor... Yes, TheL8Elvis, we know that Apple is the richest company in the world. That doesn't make market share facts just go away. |
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Well here is the first of those 10 that it appears Apple did not come through with:
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It's good to see they are following the innovation of Samsung, by making the phone screen larger and the phone itself thinner. It will use the new LTE technology that Samsung helped invent. Which is a good thing, as Apple is really just a company that designs the look and feel, the really hard stuff that's inside the phone is beyond them.
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For you. Not for me and many other people. I had a Droid X for a year. Never swapped the battery or memory card.
Well, I was certainly wrong about the price. But according to Phil Schiller it wasn't possible to make the phone any thinner with the 9-year-old plug. Seriously, they stuck with the same plug for almost a decade. New tech arose and they went with it. I'm all for the change. As Schiller points out in the article I posted a few sentences up...
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