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12th September 2012, 05:24 PM | #41 |
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I've read the stuff, I'm underwhelmed re the iPhone 5. Oh well.
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12th September 2012, 05:26 PM | #42 |
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In this case, the iPhone is physically in great condition. There are no hardware problems with it. However, the OS updates have rendered it sluggish and it doesn't respond as quickly as I would like. I'm going to keep the old one as a backup phone, or just to use as a mobile iPad / alarm clock. I don't need to replace it, as I'm sure the 3GS would provide service for several more years. However, I want to replace it since I would like an upgrade. That's why I waited for the 5 to come out.
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12th September 2012, 05:31 PM | #44 |
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If you would like to do more than simply assert nonsense, please include some actual facts and figures, then we can discuss market share.
As you clearly demonstrated here, you don't have much of a grasp on apples actual market share. |
12th September 2012, 05:37 PM | #45 |
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That's a very fair assessment, to me. As much of a tech-head as I am, I haven't had the urge or desire to buy the latest gizmo when it comes out for the sake of having the latest gizmo. Hell, most of the time I wait a year before buying it. This is an exception. I'm not a die-hard fan of Apple, but I do hope that they succeed where they can. Maybe they will regain market share from legacy users upgrading to the 5, who knows? The 3GS is a perfectly functional phone, it's just more sluggish compared to what I would prefer.
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12th September 2012, 05:48 PM | #46 |
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Ugh!!
First of all, I included links to the facts and figures. It's not only linked to in the parts snipped out of what you quoted, it's actually quoted! You say "please include some actual facts and figures". They were in both posts you quoted. But you wouldn't know it from looking at both of your posts, because it was snipped from my quotes! They have dipped a bit to around 15% Phone OS market share. I explained why I think that happened in that post. If that would have continued they would be into single digits, just like their PC and PC OS market share. Everyone is predicting a huge bump from the iPhone 5 which should bring them up to maybe 20%. I made that quite clear in my posts. Second off all, your post from that other thread is clearly a fail. All you have to do is read my quote for comprehension and then look at your source. |
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12th September 2012, 06:00 PM | #48 |
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Agreed.
Odd how when TheL8Elvis reads my post, the fact that I am saying that Apple is going to get a huge market share boost in the next couple of months is completely missed. I'm glad that other people see that I made my opinion clear. I'm not sure how anyone can read this: ...and not see that I am saying its a good time for Apple. |
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12th September 2012, 07:13 PM | #50 |
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I would be very surprised if Apple didn't have a huge turnout for the iPhone 5. While I don't think many who have the 4 or 4S will make the swap (except for the technophiles), legacy users such as myself will likely upgrade. If it's not a record turnout for sales, it certainly will bring them back up several percentage points of the market share.
The only snafu I really see is that some users may feel alienated with the change in form factor and socket. Then again, when has that stopped people before? I'm glad that Apple released the specs and relevant information for the iPhone 5 several days before it's available for order. This was a smart move. It allows new and existing users to compare between their existing phone and the 5. I may be wrong, but previously I thought that they released it for sale as soon as it was officially announced. |
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12th September 2012, 07:28 PM | #52 |
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http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/12/app...ip-in-october/
So, no video or audio out with the expensive little adapter, thus rendering all those audio/media systems with iPod docks obsolete. By the way, I love the expandable memory slots on my S3 phone and my Sony tablet. I don't have pay a manufacturer's tax to get that extra 32GB. It's not an anti-Apple thing. I didn't buy the HTC One-X precisely because it has no expandable memory slot. |
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At first I would have said no. As others have said in this thread.
But then 2 posts after yours:
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There may be some unhappy customers after all. This now goes a bit farther from "we didn't have room for it" into "forced upgrade" territory. |
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I just read that. I saw the adapter, but didn't read into what the limitations were. I agree, this is definitely in "forced upgrade" territory, and there will be a (very understandable) backlash as a result. If I had a bunch of accessories that used A/V out, I'd be pretty torqued!
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12th September 2012, 08:15 PM | #55 |
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You seemed less emphatic about this a few months ago, when the same subject came up in this thread, and a number of people pointed out that they routinely carry spare batteries.
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Spare batteries are smaller, for one thing. Why buy a battery to charge another battery with a battery charger unless it's a battery you can't swap out. Other reasons ... for example ... My dad turned 82 last month, and for some stocking-stuffer type presents I got him a couple of spare batteries and a spare USB data/charger cable for his phone, plus one of these. You see, he likes to go camping on the Outer Banks, and is prone to leave his car charger in his other car. He's run out of phone juice pretty regularly down there. Now he can keep the universal charger and spare cable in his toiletry kit, and he'll always have a few days worth of batteries charged up 'til he can get to a power source, if he needs them. Sometimes he forgets to put his phone on the charger even when he's home. (Hey, he's 82. ) It's more convenient for him to swap in a charged battery and put the used one on a charger than it is to hook up the phone and wait. |
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I dunno. Certainly not features the competition has had for years.
It is certainly no big deal to get an Android phone with an LTE radio anymore. Of the Android phones Verizon has on their website, 16 have LTE radios. 4 do not. AT&T has 10 Android phones with LTE radios. 5 without. |
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almost 60 posts and none has mentioned the killer feature yet? How the phone market has lasted so long without wrist straps I'll never know.
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Wrist strap, oh man!
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Sad is your cultish devotion to Apple.... in other news, Windows continues to suck
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13th September 2012, 05:49 AM | #62 |
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Let me break it down for you more clearly, then...
Evidence ? Where did you get this understanding from. Did you speak with tim cook ? Did he tell you this ? How did you draw the conclusion that 3GS users waiting to upgrade might be the main reason for apple losing market share. You only linked to data for the last quarter - not overall market share, and not any prior data that might show any trends, such as sales dipping the quarter before the expected new phone release every year. 2nd level quotes don't appear in responses. I read your link with 'facts and figures. It didn't do anything to support the point you were trying to make. See above about how quotes work when I hit reply. Which smart phone manufacturer has more market share than apple ? Please elaborate. You claim apple has only 12million active devices but my post is a fail ? ETA: I see you responded in the other thread, so we can keep that topic there ... |
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I was referring to people I know IRL. But as I said in that thread,
People who need extra batteries, swap SD cards, root/jailbreak thier phones, etc are the exception, not the rule. I don't see why something like this, Stitchway UltraPower 1900 mAh Backup Battery Charger for iPhone 3G, 3GS, 4, 4G, iPod, and iPod touch - External, Portable, Rechargeable (Black) isn't pretty much functionally equivalent. It's small, portable and cheap. I think that makes the non-removable battery a non-issue for those few folks who feel the need to have spare batteries. |
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In the other side, they give you streaming video mirroring so it can perform the same function without tying the phone down. Will it be possible to create a app to turn the old iPhone into an apple tv like device? Then you could stream content from the new phone through the old phone and onto the video dock thing. |
13th September 2012, 07:42 AM | #69 |
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For the claim to be literally true, it is only required that about twenty-three1 3GS users skipped 4 and 4S.
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One of the problems with any radio communication is that the user cannot see where the communication is comming from. While NFC reduced power makes interception and spoofing unlikely, it cannot be prevented entirely. An alternative to Near Field Communications would be Near Sighted Communications. A QR code on one device can be read by a camera on another device. With a smart phone, the user can see the image that is being scanned. The phone can then be turned around to present a reply. |
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From what I understand, Apple plans to introduce "self checkout" in their own stores. No additional hardware required: Use the camera to scan the barcode on the product, and send payment information to Apple, who have the customer's credit card info on file.
No reason to extend that to other stores as well. Of course, it means Apple's in the loop for all payments, but I guess there's a way around that. From Apple's point of view: Why invest in R&D for NFC to make it safe and reliable when you already have a safe and reliable equivalent function on hand that just needs to be licensed and contracted? |
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Another metric: According to NetMarketShare*, iOS has a 65% share of mobile internet traffic, vs. 21% for Android. It seems that Android owners don't use their phones and tablets for much web browsing....
*I'm not sure of their hot linking/image copying policies, but I think a direct links seems OK. |
13th September 2012, 08:46 AM | #76 |
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Batteries die over time. I like the practicality of simply popping in a new battery instead of sending in the entire phone to be fixed.
There is also a vanity reason for the removable battery cover on the Samsung S3. This. I turned my pebble blue phone into a sweet hot pink with a pop of a lid. The official case replaces the original back cover for a sleek effect. :-) |
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NFC isn't limited to payment. Programmable NFC tags can be really useful. E.g. tap a tag in your car to instantly switch the phone to handsfree mode + turn on GPS without flipping through the screen menu, or switch to music player mode on the fly. Any bets that if this feature is introduced in the iPhone 5S, the Apple faithfuls will think it's the best thing since sliced bread and that it's all thanks to Apple "innovation"?
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Apple started self checkout last year.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/08/...retail-stores/ |
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