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Old 6th June 2018, 11:03 AM   #201
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Not for independent thinking individuals
Who based what they believe on what other CT's tell them to believe, never check what they have been told and have produced scores of contradicting theories.

Yes hail the 'independent' thinkers who reject all evidence and go with 'feelings'.

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Old 6th June 2018, 12:22 PM   #202
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Is there a thread on this topic? If so, I’ll post the proof in due time. Of course they knew that the Japanese would attack Pearl Harbor that very day. They had broken the Japanese codes long before that happened.

Like reading from an open book. Prime time.

We're still waiting for you to post your "proof," which is undoubtedly long-debunked conspiracist garbage. And the Pearl Harbor attack plans were never sent via radio, so even granting, arguendo, that your assertion is true, it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
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Old 8th June 2018, 12:42 AM   #203
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More MSM on the RFK assassination. This time CBS interviewing RFKjr.

A couple of nuggets:
[...] ”But at the same time it's a history of the Kennedys and particularly the 40-year tension between my family and the CIA," he said.

The Kennedy feud with the CIA was multi-generational. The family patriarch, Joseph Kennedy, sat on a commission that called for an end to the CIA's paramilitary operations. And his sons John and Robert Kennedy both railed against the CIA's role in Vietnam.

"Actually, my father, a week before he was killed….The first thing he was gonna do was to remove the clandestine services from the CIA and make the CIA what it was supposed to be, which was an intelligence gathering organization," he said.
Something has clearly changed. This kind of honest reporting from members of the MSM is completely new in the case of the RFK assassination.

To be continued.
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Old 8th June 2018, 11:11 AM   #204
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More MSM on the RFK assassination. This time CBS interviewing RFKjr.

A couple of nuggets:
[...] ”But at the same time it's a history of the Kennedys and particularly the 40-year tension between my family and the CIA," he said.

The Kennedy feud with the CIA was multi-generational. The family patriarch, Joseph Kennedy, sat on a commission that called for an end to the CIA's paramilitary operations. And his sons John and Robert Kennedy both railed against the CIA's role in Vietnam.

"Actually, my father, a week before he was killed….The first thing he was gonna do was to remove the clandestine services from the CIA and make the CIA what it was supposed to be, which was an intelligence gathering organization," he said.
Something has clearly changed. This kind of honest reporting from members of the MSM is completely new in the case of the RFK assassination.

To be continued.
None of that is true.
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Old 8th June 2018, 12:11 PM   #205
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None of that is true.
Why should RFKjr lie about this?
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Why should RFKjr lie about this?
He's not lying. He's delusional, or working to protect the Kennedy mythos...or both.
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Old 8th June 2018, 01:56 PM   #207
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He's not lying. He's delusional, or working to protect the Kennedy mythos...or both.
Have you seen any other signs of him being ”delusional”?
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Have you seen any other signs of him being ”delusional”?
He's an anti-vaccination advocate.
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Old 8th June 2018, 09:56 PM   #209
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Why should RFKjr lie about this?
I don't know you have a lot more experience in making stuff up for attention than he does - why do you do that?
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Old 9th June 2018, 12:54 PM   #210
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He's an anti-vaccination advocate.
I believe he is of the opinion that forced vaccinations of children is wrong and should be a decision made by the parents.

I’m not saying this is a correct political opinion he has, but I certainly wouldn’t call it ”delusional”. There are a number of legitimate arguments on both sides of the controversy.

Anything else?
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I don't know you have a lot more experience in making stuff up for attention than he does - why do you do that?
I’m not looking for attention, hence being anonymous. I’m looking for attention to the fact that JFK and RFK (and MLK) was assassinated by elements within the US National Security State as State Crimes Against Democracy with unspeakable consequences for Americans and the rest of humanity present to this very day.

This has to be exposed. The alternative is dire.
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Old 10th June 2018, 11:42 AM   #212
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I’m not looking for attention, hence being anonymous. I’m looking for attention to the fact that JFK and RFK (and MLK) was assassinated by elements within the US National Security State as State Crimes Against Democracy with unspeakable consequences for Americans and the rest of humanity present to this very day.

This has to be exposed. The alternative is dire.
Yeah very dire that evil conspiracy has been moving to take over the USA/world at lightning speed. What 55 years or so since JFK was done in LHO...all the original planners (in your bizarro world) are now dead....worse conspiracy ever.



LOL

Sure you are looking for attention you're certainly not trying to convince anyone that you are right - to do that you would post evidence and answer questions, instead you try to score points.....you don't do that now do you?
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I believe he is of the opinion that forced vaccinations of children is wrong and should be a decision made by the parents.

I’m not saying this is a correct political opinion he has, but I certainly wouldn’t call it ”delusional”. There are a number of legitimate arguments on both sides of the controversy.

Anything else?
Depends. I would agree there is room for controversy over whether the clear benefits of mandatory vaccination are sufficient to override the individual rights of parents to make medical decisions. However, the anti-vaccination movement seems to be based largely on purely delusional ideas about imaginary dangers of vaccination, e.g the completely unsupported belief that vaccines cause autism.
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Yeah very dire that evil conspiracy has been moving to take over the USA/world at lightning speed. What 55 years or so since JFK was done in LHO...all the original planners (in your bizarro world) are now dead....worse conspiracy ever.



LOL

Sure you are looking for attention you're certainly not trying to convince anyone that you are right - to do that you would post evidence and answer questions, instead you try to score points.....you don't do that now do you?
Indeed with every post that contains bare assertions, every post contains no evidence from previous bare assumptions and more recently continuing to post nonsense concerning the MO. Very much causes the rest of the board to respond to his speculations.
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Depends. I would agree there is room for controversy over whether the clear benefits of mandatory vaccination are sufficient to override the individual rights of parents to make medical decisions. However, the anti-vaccination movement seems to be based largely on purely delusional ideas about imaginary dangers of vaccination, e.g the completely unsupported belief that vaccines cause autism.
I haven’t in any detail studied RFKjr’s reasons for his stand against forced vaccinations but I doubt he’s in any way ”delusional”.

Belonging to a grassroots movement in a broad sence is not equal to accept every single opinion from everyone part of said movement.

On the other hand, I can say that the majority of the members of this forum are severely delusional when it comes to what is possible in the US National Security State.

Either that or knowingly deceitful. For whatever reasons.
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Old 11th June 2018, 10:42 AM   #216
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Indeed with every post that contains bare assertions,
Bare assertions. Cite. Explain.

Quote:
every post contains no evidence from previous bare assumptions and more recently continuing to post nonsense concerning the MO.
Bare assertions. Cite. Explain.

Quote:
Very much causes the rest of the board to respond to his speculations.
I’m in the middle of
Edited by zooterkin:  <SNIP> Edited for rule 0 and rule 12
Hank’s pathetic little list. Turns out that most of it are either already provided (multiple times), quotes from questions I put to the opponents or are concerning the topic currently under debate (Hidell PMO). But no worries. I’m in the middle of answering everyone of them in full.

After that I’ll create a little list containing all the posts from members of the Mighty Church that are in need of provided evidence.

To be continued.
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https://www.quora.com/What-is-meant-by-bare-assertion

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A bare assertion is a claim of fact without supporting evidence. It may be true or false, or something in between, but we can’t know, because it is a bare assertion.
This answer is, itself, a bare assertion. :-)
It is also known as pulling stuff out of your ass.
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I believe there is a citation and an explanation. Want to move on to your next ridiculous claim?
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Old 11th June 2018, 10:46 AM   #218
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Yeah very dire that evil conspiracy has been moving to take over the USA/world at lightning speed. What 55 years or so since JFK was done in LHO...all the original planners (in your bizarro world) are now dead....worse conspiracy ever.



LOL

Sure you are looking for attention you're certainly not trying to convince anyone that you are right - to do that you would post evidence and answer questions, instead you try to score points.....you don't do that now do you?
Do you think USA is a functional democracy, Hans?
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https://www.quora.com/What-is-meant-by-bare-assertion




It is also known as pulling stuff out of your ass. Do you still have fingerprints after having to wash your hands whenever you do that?
Bare ad hominem assertions. Cite. Explain.
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Do you think USA is a functional democracy, Hans?
When we want it to be.

Also, it's a Republic, not a pure democracy, thank goodness.
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Bare ad hominem assertions. Cite. Explain.
Nope. Just a factual observation. You should try reading your own posts sometimes.
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[snip stupid comments]
Yes you have listed at least 100 bare assertions that have not been linked to any evidence.
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Go ahead and quote this comments with bare assertions but I'm quoting on your lack of evidence, if you have none, then say it.

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Nope. Just a factual observation. You should try reading your own posts sometimes.
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When we want it to be.

Also, it's a Republic, not a pure democracy, thank goodness.
Ah. Thank goodness?

How’s that?
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There are a number of legitimate arguments on both sides of the controversy.
Name them.
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Name them.
It depends on your ideological outlook.

Enough of OT in this thread.

The BIG NEWS still is that two of RFK’s children are demanding a new investigation of the assassination of their father, that one of them, RFKjr, publicely are alluding to the CIA as having something to do with it, and that US MSM are starting to cover it in an open minded and ballanced way.

Hope.
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Do you think USA is a functional democracy, Hans?
Do you think you're a functioning debater?

Its a trick question
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Hope.

We have hope you will provide evidence for all this stuff you make up

Hope

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Do you think you're a functioning debater?

Its a trick question
Do you think USA is a functional democracy, Hans?
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Do you think USA is a functional democracy, Hans?
PSSST...ah, dude,


you don't answer my questions so I don't answer yours. Do you have an adult there who could explain this sentence and its highly complex nature to you



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PSSST...ah, dude,


you don't answer my questions so I don't answer yours. Do you have an adult there who could explain this sentence and its highly complex nature to you


What questions of yours do you want me to answer?

Link, and I answer.
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We have hope you will provide evidence for all this stuff you make up

Hope

Evidence of what, Hans? Name it and I provide.

But, remember, be specific.
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What questions of yours do you want me to answer?

Link, and I answer.
Given your demonstrated inability to debate the subject, a constant use of lying and refusal to even clarify a mistake you made.

I'm afraid you are simply not worth talking to.
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Is anybody else hyped as hell for A Lie Too Big To Fail by Lisa Pease?
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Is anybody else hyped as hell for A Lie Too Big To Fail by Lisa Pease?
No, I expect the same overblown CT mongering that will lead to nowhere as usual, however I'll wait until it actually comes out.
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Is anybody else hyped as hell for A Lie Too Big To Fail by Lisa Pease?
Of course.
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Given your demonstrated inability to debate the subject, a constant use of lying and refusal to even clarify a mistake you made.

I'm afraid you are simply not worth talking to.
Lets see how much more public lying Manifesto will do today.
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Lets see how much more public lying Manifesto will do today.
More from The Washington Post on the assassination of RFK:
The Bobby Kennedy assassination tape: Were 13 shots fired or only 8?
Yes, it was.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0a20d29a58ea

Btw, Hans hasn’t provided evidence for me lying anywhere in this or any other thread on this forum. He’s the one lying, pages up and pages down, and the reason that he do this is crystal clear.
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More from The Washington Post on the assassination of RFK:
The Bobby Kennedy assassination tape: Were 13 shots fired or only 8?
Yes, it was.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0a20d29a58ea
That is the correct answer. Yes it was one or the other. I will go ahead and assume you meant 13.

The article however only has "claims" it does not provide evidence. There are claims in the article for both. So what exactly is the point of you linking to it?
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That is the correct answer. Yes it was one or the other. I will go ahead and assume you meant 13.

The article however only has "claims" it does not provide evidence. There are claims in the article for both. So what exactly is the point of you linking to it?
Yes, it was 13 shots fired, not only eight.

The point is that MSM is covering the assassination AT ALL, and to that in a fairly ballanced way.

That is new.
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