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Old 12th May 2018, 02:19 PM   #161
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I shouldn't have to say this but it is evident that it is necessary. When someone opines here they do not represent "the left". Would it be correct for people to believe that you speak for the right - that everyone on the far right believes exactly as you do?
What could possibly make you think Iím discussing people here?

Go ahead and answer that.
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Old 12th May 2018, 02:29 PM   #162
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And we Americans love defeating those haters over and over again.
Now now children. This can only end in tears.
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Old 12th May 2018, 02:45 PM   #163
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Originally Posted by Cain View Post
Trump didn't know about the payments to Cohen. Also, he didn't know about the payments to Stormy.
As if just the merger was all AT&T wanted. There was a thing called Net Neutrality and the tax cut as well.
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Old 12th May 2018, 05:00 PM   #164
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
When that "far right" consists of everyone so far to the right that they have fallen right off the edge of reality, then yeah ... it's probably correct.

I've seen it said that in the modern political lexicon "leftist" means someone slightly to the right of Ronald Reagan. Of course, that requires acknowledging the real Reagan, as opposed to the mythical Saint Reagan revered by modern Conservatives.
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Old 12th May 2018, 06:43 PM   #165
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I've seen it said that in the modern political lexicon "leftist" means someone slightly to the right of Ronald Reagan. Of course, that requires acknowledging the real Reagan, as opposed to the mythical Saint Reagan revered by modern Conservatives.
Yes Iíve seen many liberals say this. Itís quite amusing that a leftist has to get himself so close to Reagan, because even today not many want to be labeled a leftist.
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Old 12th May 2018, 06:50 PM   #166
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Yes Iíve seen many liberals say this. Itís quite amusing that a leftist has to get himself so close to Reagan, because even today not many want to be labeled a leftist.
Reagan was a leftist.
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Old 12th May 2018, 07:43 PM   #167
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Originally Posted by beren View Post
Reagan was a leftist.
Another leftist fantasy.

It would be interesting if your side could get anyone to believe this BS.
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Old 12th May 2018, 07:53 PM   #168
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Another leftist fantasy.

It would be interesting if your side could get anyone to believe this BS.
He was a leftist by your standard.
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Old 12th May 2018, 07:58 PM   #169
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Originally Posted by beren View Post
He was a leftist by your standard.
No actually he wasnít. He took the mantle of conservatism after Barry Goldwater. You donít know what youíre talking about.
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No actually he wasnít. He took the mantle of conservatism after Barry Goldwater. You donít know what youíre talking about.
Yes I do. You don't.
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Old 13th May 2018, 01:34 AM   #171
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Wouldn't a leftist be someone who was prejudiced against the left, in the same way that a racist is someone who is prejudiced against certain races?
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Old 13th May 2018, 06:18 AM   #172
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Wouldn't a leftist be someone who was prejudiced against the left, in the same way that a racist is someone who is prejudiced against certain races?
And like how a cellist hates the cello, a technologist abhors electronics and a feminist despise women.
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As Peter Cook said, ďthe Americans, like us in England, have a two-party system. They have the Republican party, which is like our Conservative party, and they have the Democratic party, which is like our Conservative party."
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Old 13th May 2018, 07:15 AM   #174
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Originally Posted by beren View Post
And like how a cellist hates the cello, a technologist abhors electronics and a feminist despise women.
Precisely.
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Old 13th May 2018, 07:16 AM   #175
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Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
As Peter Cook said, ďthe Americans, like us in England, have a two-party system. They have the Republican party, which is like our Conservative party, and they have the Democratic party, which is like our Conservative party."
Except now the Republican party is more like the BNP.
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Despite promising to punish companies that moved jobs overseas by raising their taxes, Trump is in fact rewarding them by eliminating their taxes all together
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Old 13th May 2018, 08:19 AM   #177
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America first?

Also, The FBI, CIA and NSA say American citizens shouldn't use Huawei phones.

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U.S. intelligence agencies have issued a stern warning to Americans: Do not buy smartphones made by Chinese tech companies Huawei or ZTE.

Republican Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas asked the group to raise their hands if they would recommend private American citizens use products or services made by Apple competitor Huawei or smartphone maker ZTE. None of them did.

FBI Director Chris Wray explained why it is an issue for companies and local governments to use Huawei or ZTE products and services.

There is a risk of letting any company "beholden to foreign governments" inside the country's telecommunications infrastructure, he said. Huawei is a global leader in networking equipment, and the government has previously blocked it from selling technology to some federal agencies.
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Chin... I mean America First.

Erm?
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Chin... I mean America First.

Erm?
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Chin... I mean America First.

Erm?
Now China, because it was bad enough when Trump was getting passed around like a fat joint by Russian oligarchs. The time is past when you can be a loyal American and support Trump.
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Now China, because it was bad enough when Trump was getting passed around like a fat joint by Russian oligarchs. The time is past when you can be a loyal American and support Trump.
There was a time when you could be a loyal American and support Trump?

At least if you realized what Trump was, and were not just buying the image he presented.
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He was a leftist by your standard.

Reagan raised taxes seven of the eight years that he was in office, and presided over massive increases in the debt ceiling. That sounds like the traits ascribed to leftist politicians these days.
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Reagan raised taxes seven of the eight years that he was in office, and presided over massive increases in the debt ceiling. That sounds like the traits ascribed to leftist politicians these days.
I don't know what a leftist is these days. Seriously. It isn't what it use to be. Is being a protectionist and cozying up to the Chinese and the Russians and blasting a massive hole in the National debt now conservative values? People like Logger have no clue about policy. This is simply tribal. Republicans good, Democrats bad.

Trump promised to bring back coal. Ain't happening. Trump promised to help lower prescription prices. His policies will not do that. Gas prices have risen 30 prevent since he has taken office and are now predicted to go much higher because of Trump's policies in the Middle East.

What has Trump done except help the super wealthy? I guess that is the true conservative value.
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Old 13th May 2018, 11:50 AM   #184
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Reagan raised taxes seven of the eight years that he was in office, and presided over massive increases in the debt ceiling. That sounds like the traits ascribed to leftist politicians these days.
Yes and he admitted it was a mistake. He made a deal with democrats to cut spending, they lied, he got screwed by them. Somehow that makes him a leftists?

All it shows is how a president should never compromise with the left, they only deserve defeat.
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Reagan raised taxes seven of the eight years that he was in office, and presided over massive increases in the debt ceiling. That sounds like the traits ascribed to leftist politicians these days.
Let's not forget his assault weapon ban.
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Yes and he admitted it was a mistake. He made a deal with democrats to cut spending, they lied, he got screwed by them. Somehow that makes him a leftists?

All it shows is how a president should never compromise with the left, they only deserve defeat.
You are the deal you make.
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Maybe you missed some of the news like Kushner going to the Saudi Prince with classified intel to trade for a bailout of his NY property?

Did you miss the meeting at Trump Tower to get sanctions overturned? The change in the GOP platform about the Ukraine? Backing out of Syria (with the exception of a few actions to look like we're still fighting) giving the Russians a free hand? Money flowing into Mar-a-Lago from foreign governments? The leak of classified intel to the Russian ambassador and foreign minister by Trump just after the election? The money that flowed to Trump via the inaugural fund? Money that flowed to the RNC via Russian donations? Both Cohen's and Manafort's direct connections to the Ukraine?

This administration is awash in criminal enterprising. We don't yet know the extent of it but it looks like Mueller knows a lot and is learning about moredoes.
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Let's not forget his assault weapon ban.
Amnesty for illegal immigrants.
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You are the deal you make.
Yes a lot of leftists say the same thing.
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White House advisers Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump reportedly received a blessing from a rabbi who previously compared black people to monkeys, according to The Forward. Kushner and Trump were both in Jerusalem for the opening of the new U.S. Embassy and received a blessing from Sephardic Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef during the celebrations. Yosef, one of the two chief rabbis in Israel, used the word “kushi”—a biblical term now considered derogatory for black people. “You can’t make the blessing on every ‘kushi’ you see—in America you see one every five minutes, so you make it only on a person with a white father and mother,” Yosef said during a sermon in March. “How do would you know? Let’s say you know! So they had a monkey as a son, a son like this, so you say the blessing on him.” The Anti-Defamation League called the remarks “utterly unacceptable,” and Yosef responded by saying he was “merely citing the Talmud.” Yosef has a history of questionable remarks, suggesting women who dressed immodestly were “animals” and claiming non-Jews were forbidden to live in Israel.
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That's ok. Trump is taking a "pastor" with him to Jerusalem who says the Chief Rabbi is going straight to hell anyhow.
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It is an easy and xenophobic response to claim that the US is subsidising drugs elsewhere, but objectively that is not true.
It is however perfectly consistent with Trumps self-pitying overdog victim complex: everyone takes advantage of America all the time! They take our jobs! Not anymore! Now other countries will pay our bills!
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All TVs at the FDA are now tuned to Fox News and the channel cannot be changed, by order of the Trump administration
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This post reconfirms something for me: that many people voted for Trump for no other reason than to give the middle finger to liberals.
Hey he is helping fraudulent for profit colleges and payday loans run the agencies that would regulate them that is classic middle american conservatism right there.
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[blockquote] As the city prepared for the ceremony, its top football team, Beitar Jerusalem, announced that it has renamed itself in honour of the ďcourageous US president. Henceforth the team will be known as Beitar Trump Jerusalem. [/blockquote]

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CHina just told Trump they will continue to trade with Iran, and ,in diplomatic language, of course where he coud put his sanctions.
Look he is going to stop trading with the rest of the world, that will make them all bow to us right?
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Drug pricing and manufacturing are...weird. Its easy to condemn drug manufacturers (Look! Charging hundreds of dollars for a pill that costs pennies to make). And the industry does make very large profit margins.

But drug companies DO have very high research costs, and the cost to bring new drugs to market (assuming the drug actually works) can easily costs millions
But that is peanuts to the cost of marketing said drugs. That is where the real high expenses are after all.
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I can't believe it, but I think this is the first time I've said out loud, "WHAT THE ACTUAL ****???!"

Planning to help a failing business in China that provides spyware-laden smartphones (ZTE).

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