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Old 21st May 2018, 05:06 PM   #281
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o ENSFI requires multiple tests before DNA results can be considered reliable. Even the RIS expert witness testified a single sample can not be considered reliable, even for standard tests, let alone LCN. Stefanoni failed to amplify more than once on all critical DNA samples.

o ENSFI requires you not perform LCN profiling in a lab not certified for such tests. You should never perform LCN profiling in a lab that has already processed DNA from the suspected sources. Neither of these procedures were followed.

o ENSFI certainly does not endorse an unqualified police officer, in a non-sterile environment like a police station, to remove an item of evidence from a sealed collection bag and then place in inside a non-sterile box sitting on the desk and not appropriate for evidence collection.

o I doubt ENSFI would consider it good practice to store a piece of metal in a plastic container, allowing the evidence to rust and become unusable.

o ENSFI would not have considered the extra male alleles on the bra clasp as 'stutter' and failed to report them.

o I doubt ENSFI would consider it good practice to pick up a piece of evidence with a dirty glove, stroke it, pass it alone to other technicians and then put that piece of evidence back down on the ground to photograph it.

o I doubt anyone following ENSFI would consider DNA negative, TMB negative samples to nonetheless be samples of the victim's blood.

These are just a few things that quickly come to mind. There's a reason why every single expert, world wide, who has looked at this case and commented has been exceedingly critical of how Stefanoni and the Scientific Police handled the case. It's why the court, in acquitted Amanda and Raffaele, was extremely critical of Stefanoni and the SP. You calling this nonsense is about as useful as declaring it "dark" at midnight.
Just for the record: ENFSI Best Practice Manuals
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Old 21st May 2018, 05:10 PM   #282
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In Vixen's mind a country's high conviction rate is a reflection on "more justice served" and not "higher standard of evidence brought to trial."

It's a cargo cultish thought process. I do get a good laugh though seeing guilters badmouth the Italian judicial system they spent eight years fervently defending.
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Old 21st May 2018, 05:10 PM   #283
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
It's been done several times, including a citation by a professor at Bath Uni, an expert in Italian history and law.
In other words, you CAN'T provide evidence to back your bogus claim and rather than be mature enough to admit you're wrong you're going to continue with this ludicrous claim.

That's OK Vixen. We ALL know you are wrong. No one else here has had a problem providing the evidence. You're the only one who claims something else and you're the only one who can't provide evidence to back your claim. You've already embarrassed yourself with the claim, as if we didn't have access to the CPP to read for ourselves. Had you simply admitted you were wrong it would be over, and you'd likely have earned a measure of respect in the process. Instead, you choose to continue to dig. Unreal.
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Old 21st May 2018, 05:15 PM   #284
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
The parade through the streets was banned. There was a memorial service. Can't stop the priest from doing what he likes in his own church.
False on both counts. Both the archbishop and the local police banned the original mass supposed to be held at 6:30 PM. The police declared it could only be held at dawn, but that too was cancelled:


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An archbishop and a local police chief in southern Italy have forced the scrapping of a public mass for the soul of a reputed Canadian crime clan boss, slain near Montreal.

Rocco Sollecito, 67, was gunned down in May while driving his car in Laval. Police said Sollecito had high-level ties to the former reputed head of the Montreal Mafia.
•Rocco Sollecito, reputed high-ranking Montreal Mafia member, killed in Laval

A priest in Grumo Appula, the Italian town of Sollecito's roots, posted notices inviting parishioners to mass Tuesday evening. But the police chief ordered the mass held at dawn instead to avoid drawing a big crowd.

Bari-Bitonto Archbishop Francesco Cacucci also opposed the evening public mass, calling it a "great scandal.'' He called it inappropriate for someone who didn't live a Christian life.

In the end, no mass at all was celebrated.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...lled-1.3913273

I have a question for you, Vixen: why was no mention of Francesco or Raffaele Sollecito ever made in any of the articles written about Rocco Sollecito at the time of his death? In 2016, a relationship between them would definitely have been mentioned, especially in Italy. Yet none was. Care to hazard a guess why that was?

As for that alleged photo of Francesco, it's no wonder you have failed to produce it. It doesn't exist any more than the memorial existed.
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Old 21st May 2018, 05:21 PM   #285
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
False on both counts. Both the archbishop and the local police banned the original mass supposed to be held at 6:30 PM. The police declared it could only be held at dawn, but that too was cancelled:



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...lled-1.3913273

I have a question for you, Vixen: why was no mention of Francesco or Raffaele Sollecito ever made in any of the articles written about Rocco Sollecito at the time of his death? In 2016, a relationship between them would definitely have been mentioned, especially in Italy. Yet none was. Care to hazard a guess why that was?

As for that alleged photo of Francesco, it's no wonder you have failed to produce it. It doesn't exist any more than the memorial existed.
Quite a few forum members will recall the picture.

Keep up the trolling.
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Old 21st May 2018, 05:26 PM   #286
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
It's been done several times, including a citation by a professor at Bath Uni, an expert in Italian history and law.
You are referring to Prof. Anna Bull who teaches
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Politics, Languages & International Studies
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https://researchportal.bath.ac.uk/en/persons/anna-bull

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Anna Cento Bull is Professor of Italian History and Politics at the University of Bath, UK.
http://www.unrest.eu/anna-cento-bull/

She is NOT an expert in Italian LAW whatsoever.
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Old 21st May 2018, 05:34 PM   #287
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Quite a few forum members will recall the picture.

Keep up the trolling.
Really? Yet no one here has mentioned recalling it. Why do you keep lying? If you could produce this photo, you would. You know it, we know it, anyone reading this forum knows it. Raper and Slick Pete on TJMK refer to this alleged photo, yet it is not even produced there. Hmmmmm. I wonder why that is?

This is your problem: you just make things up.
Or, you honestly believe something when you say it, but when unable to provide a single shred of evidence for it, you don't have the ethics to admit it. Continuing to claim something you know to be false or unsupported by any evidence is the action of a troll.

I notice you failed to answer my question: why was no mention ever made of Rocco's "brother", Francesco, or is "nephew", Raffaele, in any article written about Rocco?

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Old 21st May 2018, 05:40 PM   #288
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
I doubt there'll be another series. Sluts tend to be very boring people. One trick ponies.
Really? That hasn't been my experience. I have found them to be adventurous and not uptight about anything. I'll take a slut over a prude with a stick up her bum every day and twice on Sunday.
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Old 21st May 2018, 05:42 PM   #289
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Really? That hasn't been my experience. I have found them to be adventurous and not uptight about anything. I'll take a slut over a prude with a stick up her bum every day and twice on Sunday.
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Old 21st May 2018, 05:48 PM   #290
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I'm having a mental image of someone searching in vain through the ISF and TJMK archives for a photo that doesn't exist. It's "exactly similar" to the same fruitless search a while back for Raffaele's Napapijri jacket and cap with a red stripe.
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Old 21st May 2018, 06:25 PM   #291
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Quite a few forum members will recall the picture.

Keep up the trolling.
Why are you accusing others of trolling when you:
1) Have not produced the alleged picture?
2) Have not cited ONE forum member (other than yourself) who recalls the picture?
You make claims and allegations. They seldom line up with anything factual.
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Old 21st May 2018, 06:35 PM   #292
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Originally Posted by Methos View Post
Just for the record: ENFSI Best Practice Manuals
Methos, thanks for posting these, but you should understand by now that each of these manuals is one big typo.
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Old 21st May 2018, 07:13 PM   #293
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
I'm having a mental image of someone searching in vain through the ISF and TJMK archives for a photo that doesn't exist. It's "exactly similar" to the same fruitless search a while back for Raffaele's Napapijri jacket and cap with a red stripe.
I can all but guarantee you she isn't searching for a photo she knows does not exist. It's just easier for her to claim a non-existent photo exists than it is admitting she's wrong.

What really amuses me is her claim re; Art. 530. I mean, it's one thing to claim a non-existent photo exists knowing full well it doesn't (though probably thinking it's tough to prove a negative so what the hell) but it's quite another to continue to repeat a claim when the evidence to the contrary has been posted numerous times. She blames it on a Wikipedia error as if any of us are relying on Wikipedia. Even when faced with a copy of the CPP she continues to lie about it. And she has the chutzpah to accuse Amanda and Raffaele of lying.
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Old 21st May 2018, 07:14 PM   #294
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
The parade through the streets was banned. There was a memorial service. Can't stop the priest from doing what he likes in his own church.
You have shown nothing that contradicts news reports that the memorial was cancelled.
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Old 21st May 2018, 07:29 PM   #295
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
If the murder had happened in Texas, the pair would have fried on Old Smoky by now.
It's Old Smokey and no they wouldn't have. Add the death penalty in the United States to that exceedingly long list of things about which you know nothing. Only 6 states even still potentially use the electric chair with 2 more reserving its use in case lethal injection is ever ruled unconstitutional. Texas is not one of those states.

Unlikely that the "pair" would have ever seen the inside of a courtroom other than in hapless and routinely humiliated Italy
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Old 21st May 2018, 07:31 PM   #296
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Why are you accusing others of trolling when you:
1) Have not produced the alleged picture?
2) Have not cited ONE forum member (other than yourself) who recalls the picture?
You make claims and allegations. They seldom line up with anything factual.
Errata:

I have found pictures of the Rocco Sollecito funeral which was held in June 2016 in the Ahuntsic-Cartierville borough of Montréal in Québec, on the north of the island.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...eral-1.3614868

There are no pictures of anyone related to Raffaele Sollecito. The funeral service scheduled for December 2016 at Grumo Appula, the Italian town of Rocco Sollecito's roots, was first rescheduled to avoid controvery, then cancelled altogether by the local archbishop, citing scandal.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...lled-1.3913273
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You are referring to Prof. Anna Bull who teaches .

https://researchportal.bath.ac.uk/en/persons/anna-bull

http://www.unrest.eu/anna-cento-bull/

She is NOT an expert in Italian LAW whatsoever.
Stacyhs, thanks for posting this. Here are descriptions of Professor Bull's professional work and expertise:

"Anna Cento Bull

Anna Cento Bull is Professor of Italian History and Politics at the University of Bath, UK. She has examined the legacy of 1960s-1970s Italian terrorism, exploring issues related to reconciliation, memory, truth and justice and comparing the views of victims, perpetrators and politicians close to the right. Early research focussed on extreme-right terrorism. The findings of this research have been published as journal articles, book chapters, and a solo-authored book, Italian Neofascism. The Strategy of Tension and the Politics of Nonreconciliation, published by Berghahn in 2007 (re-published in paperback in 2011). More recently, her research has examined the end of terrorism and its legacy in Italy with reference to both left and right terrorism, thanks to a new major round of interviews with former terrorists and victims/relatives of victims. A new book, entitled Ending Terrorism in Italy, written jointly with Dr Philip Cooke, University of Strathclyde, was published by Routledge in 2013. During the course of her research on Italian terrorism she was awarded an AHRC Research Grant (2005) and an AHRC Research Fellowship (2010)."

Source: http://www.unrest.eu/anna-cento-bull/


"Professor Anna Bull was appointed Professor of Italian in 1996, having taught at Bath since 1987. She graduated from the University of Naples and wrote her doctorate at the University of Reading, where she subsequently held a lectureship. Her research interests include Italian fascism and neofascism, the Lega Nord, regionalism, federalism and political cultures and identities

She teaches a final-year option ‘Political Terrorism and its Legacy in Italy' and contributes to the Italian Politics and Society courses. She also convenes a postgraduate unit, Multi-Level Governance and Multi-Layered Citizenship in Europe and contributes to other MA units.

Her publications include From Peasant to Entrepreneur. The Survival of the Family Economy in Italy [with P. Corner] (1993), Entrepreneurial Textile Communities [with M. Pitt and J. Szarka] (1993), Social Identities and Political Cultures in Italy (2000), and [with M. Gilbert] The Lega Nord and the Northern Question in Italian Politics (2001), Italian Neofascism. The Strategy of Tension and the Politics of Nonreconciliation (2007) and [edited with G. Baldini] Politica in Italia 2008 (2009)."

Source: https://theconversation.com/profiles...to-bull-122077

Professor Bull's background relates to the study of terrorism in Italy, as well as the history and culture of Italy; she is not a lawyer and has no publications related directly to Italian law.

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Old 21st May 2018, 10:03 PM   #298
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I can all but guarantee you she isn't searching for a photo she knows does not exist. It's just easier for her to claim a non-existent photo exists than it is admitting she's wrong.

What really amuses me is her claim re; Art. 530. I mean, it's one thing to claim a non-existent photo exists knowing full well it doesn't (though probably thinking it's tough to prove a negative so what the hell) but it's quite another to continue to repeat a claim when the evidence to the contrary has been posted numerous times. She blames it on a Wikipedia error as if any of us are relying on Wikipedia. Even when faced with a copy of the CPP she continues to lie about it. And she has the chutzpah to accuse Amanda and Raffaele of lying.
The guilters resort to remarkable misdirections in an attempt to hide their obvious lack of valid arguments and their readily apparent misunderstandings and/or misstatements of Italian law and other relevant topics.

Here's the short-form verdict (aka, the disposition) from the Marasca CSC panel motivation report, translated:

"FOR THESE REASONS

Pursuant to Article 620 letter A) Italian Code of Criminal Procedure; annuls the ruling under appeal with respect to the crime under charge B) of the rubric because the crime is extinct due to statute of limitations;

pursuant to Articles 620 letter L) and 530, section 2 Italian Code of Criminal Procedure; excluding the aggravating circumstance under Italian under Article 61 n. 2 Penal Code, in relation to the crime of calumny, annuls the ruling under appeal without referral with respect to the crimes under charges A), D) and E) of the rubric because the appellants did not commit the act.

Recalculates the sentence imposed upon appellant Amanda Maria Knox for the crime of calumny {calunnia = false accusation} in three years of confinement.

Thus decided 27/03/2015"

The recent artificial controversy generated by one or more guilters about Article 530 - pretending that there was a separate "Article 530.2", when the notation "Article 530.2" is simply a short-hand designation for "Article 530 section 2" (aka "Article 530 paragraph 2", aka "Article 530,2") was a misdirection to cover-up the guilters' false statements about the significance of the acquittal.

The original Italian word translated as "section" in the translation is "comma", which in context may be translated as either "section" or "paragraph".

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Just for the record: ENFSI Best Practice Manuals
Also here.
http://enfsi.eu/documents/forensic-guidelines/

Steffanoni clearly did not meet ENFSI standards for hair analysis. The guidelines show she failed to follow best practice when using non-standard protocols e.g. around testing of DNA on the knife.

Mentioned in the guideline

♦ Environmental monitoring procedures should be documented. Test results shall be recorded and reviewed.
♦ In case of a contamination event, the lab should implement corrective/preventive actions as necessary.
As a minimum the laboratories should keep the following information concerning
traceability of contaminations:
1. Contamination count vs. total number of samples processed;
a. Number of contaminations in reference samples;
b. Number of contaminations in case work samples
2. Contamination analysis;
a. Number of sample to sample contaminations;
b. Number of person to sample contaminations.
3. Determination of the analytical step where the contamination has likely
occurred (Crime Scene, Sampling, Extraction (separate automatic from
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ENFSI quotes Gill and Butler in their best practice manuals; Steffanoni not so much (ie not at all).
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I can all but guarantee you she isn't searching for a photo she knows does not exist. It's just easier for her to claim a non-existent photo exists than it is admitting she's wrong.

What really amuses me is her claim re; Art. 530. I mean, it's one thing to claim a non-existent photo exists knowing full well it doesn't (though probably thinking it's tough to prove a negative so what the hell) but it's quite another to continue to repeat a claim when the evidence to the contrary has been posted numerous times. She blames it on a Wikipedia error as if any of us are relying on Wikipedia. Even when faced with a copy of the CPP she continues to lie about it. And she has the chutzpah to accuse Amanda and Raffaele of lying.
Admitting she was wrong? What a laugh. Vixen wouldn't admit she was wrong about the charter despite being provided video footage of Amanda having her boarding pass being checked with the commercial fight number on the reader board above her head. She came up with excuses including that you can charter a commercial flight. Like Trump, she appears incapable of an admission of error.
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Admitting she was wrong? What a laugh. Vixen wouldn't admit she was wrong about the charter despite being provided video footage of Amanda having her boarding pass being checked with the commercial fight number on the reader board above her head. She came up with excuses including that you can charter a commercial flight. Like Trump, she appears incapable of an admission of error.
Depending on one's agenda, lying about stuff like that is so unnecessary.

If your agenda is a simple one - prove AK and/or RS guilty - then the status of the Oct 2011 flight home is unimportant.

But if the agenda is to slut-shame, vilify and conspiratorialize at every turn, then one cannot let up even on the stupid stuff.....

....... which is what makes the guiltier PR-campaign look so stupid.
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Depending on one's agenda, lying about stuff like that is so unnecessary.

If your agenda is a simple one - prove AK and/or RS guilty - then the status of the Oct 2011 flight home is unimportant.

But if the agenda is to slut-shame, vilify and conspiratorialize at every turn, then one cannot let up even on the stupid stuff.....

....... which is what makes the guiltier PR-campaign look so stupid.
I don't get this denial at all costs. We often joked that the guilters wouldn't admit they were wrong if there was video of Rudy breaking in and leaving alone covered in blood. They would come up with some excuse. Something like, just because there is only video of Rudy, doesn't mean that Amanda and Raffaele didn't come in the back entrance, or that they weren't already there.
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Admitting she was wrong? What a laugh. Vixen wouldn't admit she was wrong about the charter despite being provided video footage of Amanda having her boarding pass being checked with the commercial fight number on the reader board above her head. She came up with excuses including that you can charter a commercial flight. Like Trump, she appears incapable of an admission of error.
I said, "OK, fair enough". Stop nagging.

See pic of Francesco at Rocco's memorial mass in Bari.
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Errata:

I have found pictures of the Rocco Sollecito funeral which was held in June 2016 in the Ahuntsic-Cartierville borough of Montréal in Québec, on the north of the island.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...eral-1.3614868

There are no pictures of anyone related to Raffaele Sollecito. The funeral service scheduled for December 2016 at Grumo Appula, the Italian town of Rocco Sollecito's roots, was first rescheduled to avoid controvery, then cancelled altogether by the local archbishop, citing scandal.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...lled-1.3913273

Grumo Appula is a town and comune of the Metropolitan City of Bari, Apulia, southern Italy. The town has a population of about 13,000 and lies a few miles inland from the port of Bari on the Adriatic Sea. Wikipedia

From your own link:
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A priest in Grumo Appula, the Italian town of Sollecito's roots, posted notices inviting parishioners to mass Tuesday evening. But the police chief ordered the mass held at dawn instead to avoid drawing a big crowd.
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I said, "OK, fair enough". Stop nagging.

See pic of Francesco at Rocco's memorial mass in Bari.
You are absolutely incredible. No wonder no one believes you. The post you made - without a citation about its origin - says the exact opposite of what you claim.

How do you live with yourself for lying so baldly like this?
Originally Posted by Vixen's own citation which contradicts the point she is making
Pastor invites to mob boss: “Papa receive me, I am grieved.” – “The Sollecito family withdrew the reservation made sufferage of Rocco Sollecito, therefore, not to be held at 10:30 none has been held this morning at six, as established by the Police and as archbishop ban. I think to convey an appeal to Pope Francis to receive me as the father welcomes a child in pain.”

And what he writes in a message to Radionorba the pastor of Clot. Father Michael Leaves, at the center of controversy for having invited the citizenship to a mass in memory of the boss of the ‘Ndrangheta Canadian, Rocco Sollecito.

The masses – writes the parish priest – were not celebrated in honor of the deceased, the holy masses are celebrated in sufferage for the dead, and the closer you are to sinners as much wonders of God’s mercy.”
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Old 22nd May 2018, 12:03 PM   #306
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The. Memorial. Was. Cancelled.

The. Claim. You. Made. Above. Is. A. Lie.
Are you sure about that?
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Old 22nd May 2018, 12:04 PM   #307
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From your own link:

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A priest in Grumo Appula, the Italian town of Sollecito's roots, posted notices inviting parishioners to mass Tuesday evening. But the police chief ordered the mass held at dawn instead to avoid drawing a big crowd.
You cannot read. After that, the archbishop stepped in and cancelled the morning mass.

But there's a larger question..... why are you arguing that Rocco Sollecito's funeral mass had been held in Italy when it clearly had not been? Why argue against fact?

Even the citation YOU YOURSELF PROVIDED said it had been cancelled.

Is slandering Knox and Raffaele Sollecito so important to you that you'd lie to do it?
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Are you sure about that?
Yes.

The only remaining question is why you continue to post the lie that it had taken place.
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Originally Posted by bagels View Post
Texas Cowboy: Any last meal request?

Amanda Knox: I'd really like to say I'm dying for a pizza but it doesn't seem right.
Macabre and grotesque as it is, that's probably exactly what she would say. Probably would want to write a song about it, for the second time in her life (as you know, she is quoted as writing, "for the first time in my life, I wanted to write a song...about my friend's murder."


Sounds like it gave her quite a thrill.
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"Good try"? I think you mean "bloody abysmal, mendacious, wilfully-misdirecting, weasel, intellectually-dishonest, embarrassingly poor try"......
Is that the sum of your adverb collection?
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
If someone is lying here, it's not me.

When asked about how the suitcase was supposed to arrive, Jovana P. replied:


(Court Hearing of March 21, 2009)

By saying that "one could not send things this way in Italy" and the fact her Serbian mother had tried to send the suitcase in this manner implies that it was done that way in Serbia. Note that I also said "apparently it was not unusual".

So you were lying by innuendo.
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Macabre and grotesque as it is, that's probably exactly what she would say. Probably would want to write a song about it, for the second time in her life (as you know, she is quoted as writing, "for the first time in my life, I wanted to write a song...about my friend's murder."


Sounds like it gave her quite a thrill.
I'd ask for a citation for the last sentence, but you'd probably post something which contradicts your stupid claim. It is clear from your last few posts that you'll lie as long as it slanders Knox.
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In Vixen's mind a country's high conviction rate is a reflection on "more justice served" and not "higher standard of evidence brought to trial."

It's a cargo cultish thought process. I do get a good laugh though seeing guilters badmouth the Italian judicial system they spent eight years fervently defending.
The USA has far more people convicted and in jail than Italy per 100,000 head of population. Ginormously more.
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Really? That hasn't been my experience. I have found them to be adventurous and not uptight about anything. I'll take a slut over a prude with a stick up her bum every day and twice on Sunday.
That's great if all you want is to get laid. I get that some people enjoy 'open relationships' but it wouldn't be something that suits me.
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Originally Posted by Bill Williams View Post
You are absolutely incredible. No wonder no one believes you. The post you made - without a citation about its origin - says the exact opposite of what you claim.

How do you live with yourself for lying so baldly like this?


But it is definitely the case a mass DID take place, if not ar six o'clock at dawn 'in memory for the dead in general', to get around the ban on Mafia boss Rocco being eulogised, at 7:00, as a generalised mass. And you can see Francesco, Raff's Papa, making the effort first thing on a Tuesday morning at a mass that was thinly disguised as Memorial 'not for Rocco, but for Rocco, except we had to change the wording'.

You can see the photo of his coming out of the door.

Compare it to the pic on the left (a stock Getty image of Francesco Sollecito) and you can see the figure coming out of this special mass, is indeed the upright respectable doctor of urology.
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That's great if all you want is to get laid. I get that some people enjoy 'open relationships' but it wouldn't be something that suits me.
I'd ask for a citation for this, but you'd probably post something which contradicts your stupid claim. It is clear from your last few posts that you'll lie as long as it slanders Knox.
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The USA has far more people convicted and in jail than Italy per 100,000 head of population. Ginormously more.
The homicide rate in the US for example is over 600% higher than in Italy. The sentences are harsher for equal crimes, three strikes laws, etc etc. Doesn't say anything about the quality of evidence brought to trial.
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I'd ask for a citation for the last sentence, but you'd probably post something which contradicts your stupid claim. It is clear from your last few posts that you'll lie as long as it slanders Knox.
LOL the Italian woman Knox tried to gag.
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Originally Posted by bagels View Post
The homicide rate in the US for example is over 600% higher than in Italy. The sentences are harsher for equal crimes, three strikes laws, etc etc. Doesn't say anything about the quality of evidence brought to trial.
Few even go to trial these days for fear of extortionately harsh sentencing.

Just imagine, had Knox taken the cue at her Mignini interview, she could have got off with second degree murder and be living now as a normal citizen with good mental health. Even proper employment and a family.
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I said, "OK, fair enough". Stop nagging.

See pic of Francesco at Rocco's memorial mass in Bari.

I know exactly where you got that:
http://www.perugiamurderfile.net/vie...461&start=8000

And they got it from here (scroll almost down to the bottom):
https://www.deliapress.it/products/p...no-addolorato/

The trouble with this is that the alleged pictures (and most certainly not the one photoshopped in of the "stock" pic of Dr. Sollecito) do not appear.
That photo claiming it is of Dr. Sollecito coming out of the church is not mentioned anywhere in the article...nor are Francesco or Raffaele at all. That picture of Dr. Sollecito could have been taken at any time, including of him coming out of his own local church as it is not identified in the article. Once again: why is it that NO article EVER mentioned Dr. Sollecito being at the (non-existent) memorial mass OR mentioned either him or Raffaele in any article related to Rocco Sollecito?

As for the alleged memorial mass, I've already quoted and cited the article that says that NONE was ever held. Try reading it again:

Quote:
An archbishop and a local police chief in southern Italy have forced the scrapping of a public mass for the soul of a reputed Canadian crime clan boss, slain near Montreal.

Rocco Sollecito, 67, was gunned down in May while driving his car in Laval. Police said Sollecito had high-level ties to the former reputed head of the Montreal Mafia.
•Rocco Sollecito, reputed high-ranking Montreal Mafia member, killed in Laval

A priest in Grumo Appula, the Italian town of Sollecito's roots, posted notices inviting parishioners to mass Tuesday evening. But the police chief ordered the mass held at dawn instead to avoid drawing a big crowd.

Bari-Bitonto Archbishop Francesco Cacucci also opposed the evening public mass, calling it a "great scandal.'' He called it inappropriate for someone who didn't live a Christian life.

In the end, no mass at all was celebrated.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...lled-1.3913273

Just like you're stuck in the 2009 evidence whirlpool, you can't get past the end result that no mass was held even at dawn. PERIOD. END STOP.
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