[Merged] Trump Fires Comey....

Bob001 · 9th May 2017, 02:48 PM

White House announces firing of Comey. Details to follow.

C_Felix · 9th May 2017, 02:49 PM

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...38175?cmpid=sf

TraneWreck · 9th May 2017, 02:50 PM

I'm not seeing it on any news site.

In any case, strange timing as Comey just lied (er, misrepresented) about how Huma Abedin's emails ended up on Carlos Danger's computer.

Comey is a strange cat. I can't figure him out.

Skeptic Ginger · 9th May 2017, 02:50 PM

If the Republicans let this stand the corruption is on their hands.

They don't need Comey, but they certainly need to stop Trump from quashing the investigation into Trump's corruption.

Cain · 9th May 2017, 02:51 PM

Long overdue. Now if only he can find a way to dissolve Congress and vacate the courts.

Resume · 9th May 2017, 02:52 PM

No longer useful.

Bob001 · 9th May 2017, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by TraneWreck

I'm not seeing it on any news site.
.....

Quote:

FBI Director James B. Comey has been dismissed by the president, according to White House spokesman Sean Spicer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.ee92b89068d7

dudalb · 9th May 2017, 02:53 PM

Not seeing this on any newsite, either.
I think this is going to happen..the guy has become too much of an am embarrassment, and has managed to make BOTH parties in congress mistrust him...but this has not been confirmed.

TraneWreck · 9th May 2017, 02:53 PM

There you go.

Wow. This is scary stuff. You can bet every ******* Republican Congressperson is going to be defending this.

Can you imagine the cries of outrage if Obama did this during one of the 340985723098457 Benghazi "investigations?"

dudalb · 9th May 2017, 02:55 PM

Now it is breaking all over the Newsites. Guess it takes them a few minutes to actually write the story...

dudalb · 9th May 2017, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Cain

Long overdue. Now if only he can find a way to dissolve Congress and vacate the courts.

Hate to defend Trump, but the FBI head serves at the pleasure of the President, and the President can fire him for any reason, good or bad.
He needs to be confirmed by Congress, but the POTUS retains the right of Dimissal.

dudalb · 9th May 2017, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by TraneWreck

There you go.

Wow. This is scary stuff. You can bet every ******* Republican Congressperson is going to be defending this.

Can you imagine the cries of outrage if Obama did this during one of the 340985723098457 Benghazi "investigations?"

Don't like Trump anymore then you do, but let's keep the paranoia down.
You can bet this story is not going to die. And Comey might well decide to get revenge by leaking stuff to the media.

Skeptic Ginger · 9th May 2017, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Resume

No longer useful.

More like, getting to close.

Tony Stark · 9th May 2017, 03:01 PM

TraneWreck · 9th May 2017, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Hate to defend Trump, but the FBI head serves at the pleasure of the President, and the President can fire him for any reason, good or bad.
He needs to be confirmed by Congress, but the POTUS retains the right of Dimissal.

Only 1 director has ever been fired, and that was due to ethics violations.

Now, certainly seems like you could find something on Comey given his inconsistent behavior, but there is no precedent for a firing due to political decisions.

Given that the FBI is investigating Trump's team, this looks even worse. I sincerely hope that Congress grows a *********** pair.

Skeptic Ginger · 9th May 2017, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by TraneWreck

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In any case, strange timing as Comey just lied (er, misrepresented) about how Huma Abedin's emails ended up on Carlos Danger's computer.

Comey is a strange cat. I can't figure him out.

I can. He was a decent guy for the most part but his hatred for Clinton dripped out.

When he testified about the last minute letter to Congress, he outright accused Clinton of being guilty while Comey claimed he thought the proof was in the first 3 months of emails that were deleted. He never allowed for other possibilities.

IOW, he believed her guilty and when he found nothing he refused to give up that belief.

Trump camp is claiming this is about not pursuing Clinton's emails.

Bob001 · 9th May 2017, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Hate to defend Trump, but the FBI head serves at the pleasure of the President, and the President can fire him for any reason, good or bad.
He needs to be confirmed by Congress, but the POTUS retains the right of Dimissal.

But it's supposed to be a 10-year term to isolate him from political pressures. That's why the FBI director doesn't resign like other top officials when the administration changes. Commentators are already comparing this to the Cox firing.

TraneWreck · 9th May 2017, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Don't like Trump anymore then you do, but let's keep the paranoia down.
You can bet this story is not going to die. And Comey might well decide to get revenge by leaking stuff to the media.

Hope so. It's just that time and time again, Trump flouts tradition and custom and people turn a blind eye. When he starts firing people investigating him, that's when it gets scary.

Hell, he very clearly threatened Yates before her testimony. Any other president attempting to intimidate a witness like that would have caused a national scandal - it's an abuse of power - but with Trump we just shrug our shoulders.

Hercules56 · 9th May 2017, 03:03 PM

this is some ********** up ****.

i hope this is the beginning of the end for Trump.

this was nothing less than a political, Stalinist purge.

Trump sees Comey as a threat to his power, so he fired him.

Hercules56 · 9th May 2017, 03:04 PM

Trump is justifying the firing because of Comey's press conference in May, when he accused Hillary of being very careless with the emails.

he's desperate for excuses.

Hercules56 · 9th May 2017, 03:06 PM

Irony is many Democrats called for Comey to resign or be fired, because of his statements against Hillary.

Cain · 9th May 2017, 03:06 PM

We are all free -- for now -- to disagree with President Trump's decision to fire Comey, but we should all agree that this is great for ratings. Trump knows how to generate excitement in the White House, much more than if Shwarzenegger were President.

Hercules56 · 9th May 2017, 03:07 PM

Nixon's firing of the head of the Watergate investigation led to his downfall.

Bob001 · 9th May 2017, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

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IOW, he believed her guilty and when he found nothing he refused to give up that belief.

He criticized her for administrative errors, which is pretty much indisputable. But he also said there was no evidence of criminal intent and no basis for prosecution. That's pretty much the most Clinton could have hoped for.

Tony Stark · 9th May 2017, 03:11 PM

dudalb · 9th May 2017, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

But it's supposed to be a 10-year term to isolate him from political pressures. That's why the FBI director doesn't resign like other top officials when the administration changes. Commentators are already comparing this to the Cox firing.

I know that, but he still serves at the President's pleasure.
I am surprised that Trump out and out fired him; that seldom happens at this level. Usually the guy is given a opportunity to resign.

Childlike Empress · 9th May 2017, 03:12 PM

I thought Comey was creepy the first time I saw him because he looks so much like Merkel's spokesperson, Steffen Seibert, who was a news anchor of state-controlled media before using the revolving door to "politics".

Skeptic Ginger · 9th May 2017, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Tony Stark

http://i.imgur.com/Z20R6Pv.jpg

Notice how the letter points out Comey confirmed Trump wasn't under investigation which I don't believe Comey ever said in those words.

Bob001 · 9th May 2017, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Cain

Long overdue. Now if only he can find a way to dissolve Congress and vacate the courts.

Give him time. He will be able to nominate hundreds of federal judges, who will be rubber-stamped by the Senate. Imagine a Jeff Sessions on every federal bench.

The Big Dog · 9th May 2017, 03:13 PM

Ha! He fired Comey for the Clinton email investigation disclosures.

Cognitive Dissonance of Clinton supporters causes heads to explode.

Skeptic Ginger · 9th May 2017, 03:13 PM

What a whitewash.

Hercules56 · 9th May 2017, 03:13 PM

this letter suggests that the firing was for political reasons

"you say im not being investigated, but that's not good enough. You're fired!!"

hopefully this begins the end for Trump

dudalb · 9th May 2017, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

Irony is many Democrats called for Comey to resign or be fired, because of his statements against Hillary.

Fact is, the leadership of both parties mistrusted Comey. He had shredded his credibility with his 180 degree reversal on Hilarly.
I am not surprised that Comey is gone, but am surprised that Trump out and out fired him.

Skeptic Ginger · 9th May 2017, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Ha! He fired Comey for the Clinton email investigation disclosures.

Cognitive Dissonance of Clinton supporters causes heads to explode.

Ignorance at not seeing that claim as pure bull crap causes heads to explode.

newyorkguy · 9th May 2017, 03:14 PM

In his letter to Comey Donnie claims he is acting because Jeff Sessions is "recommending your dismissal." What's that all about?

Tony Stark · 9th May 2017, 03:15 PM

Honestly, as much as I hate Trump it is actually possible that Comey's firing has nothing to do with the Russia investigation and is actually about how he handled Hillary's email investigation.

Bob001 · 9th May 2017, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I know that, but he still serves at the President's pleasure.
I am surprised that Trump out and out fired him; that seldom happens at this level. Usually the guy is given a opportunity to resign.

That's part of sticking a thumb in his eye just to prove you can.

Hercules56 · 9th May 2017, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Cain

Long overdue. Now if only he can find a way to dissolve Congress and vacate the courts.

Sieg Heil!!!!

Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer Trump!!!!

The Big Dog · 9th May 2017, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Ignorance at not seeing that claim as pure bull crap causes heads to explode.

See what I mean folks!

Bob001 · 9th May 2017, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Tony Stark

Honestly, as much as I hate Trump it is actually possible that Comey's firing has nothing to do with the Russia investigation and is actually about how he handled Hillary's email investigation.

So what does that mean? Is Trump going to order Clinton's prosecution? That would put her back in the public eye for years, after she's already started to fade away. Why would he benefit from that?

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TraneWreck Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,929	I'm not seeing it on any news site. In any case, strange timing as Comey just lied (er, misrepresented) about how Huma Abedin's emails ended up on Carlos Danger's computer. Comey is a strange cat. I can't figure him out.
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Bob001 Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,241	Originally Posted by TraneWreck I'm not seeing it on any news site. ..... Quote: FBI Director James B. Comey has been dismissed by the president, according to White House spokesman Sean Spicer. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.ee92b89068d7
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dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 36,334	Not seeing this on any newsite, either. I think this is going to happen..the guy has become too much of an am embarrassment, and has managed to make BOTH parties in congress mistrust him...but this has not been confirmed.
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dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 36,334	Originally Posted by Cain Long overdue. Now if only he can find a way to dissolve Congress and vacate the courts. Hate to defend Trump, but the FBI head serves at the pleasure of the President, and the President can fire him for any reason, good or bad. He needs to be confirmed by Congress, but the POTUS retains the right of Dimissal.
	__________________ Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein.

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dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 36,334	Originally Posted by TraneWreck There you go. Wow. This is scary stuff. You can bet every ******* Republican Congressperson is going to be defending this. Can you imagine the cries of outrage if Obama did this during one of the 340985723098457 Benghazi "investigations?" Don't like Trump anymore then you do, but let's keep the paranoia down. You can bet this story is not going to die. And Comey might well decide to get revenge by leaking stuff to the media.
	__________________ Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein.

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Skeptic Ginger formerly skeptigirl Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 61,548	Originally Posted by Resume No longer useful. More like, getting to close.

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TraneWreck Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,929	Originally Posted by dudalb Hate to defend Trump, but the FBI head serves at the pleasure of the President, and the President can fire him for any reason, good or bad. He needs to be confirmed by Congress, but the POTUS retains the right of Dimissal. Only 1 director has ever been fired, and that was due to ethics violations. Now, certainly seems like you could find something on Comey given his inconsistent behavior, but there is no precedent for a firing due to political decisions. Given that the FBI is investigating Trump's team, this looks even worse. I sincerely hope that Congress grows a *********** pair.
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Skeptic Ginger formerly skeptigirl Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 61,548	Originally Posted by TraneWreck ... In any case, strange timing as Comey just lied (er, misrepresented) about how Huma Abedin's emails ended up on Carlos Danger's computer. Comey is a strange cat. I can't figure him out. I can. He was a decent guy for the most part but his hatred for Clinton dripped out. When he testified about the last minute letter to Congress, he outright accused Clinton of being guilty while Comey claimed he thought the proof was in the first 3 months of emails that were deleted. He never allowed for other possibilities. IOW, he believed her guilty and when he found nothing he refused to give up that belief. Trump camp is claiming this is about not pursuing Clinton's emails.

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TraneWreck Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,929	Originally Posted by dudalb Don't like Trump anymore then you do, but let's keep the paranoia down. You can bet this story is not going to die. And Comey might well decide to get revenge by leaking stuff to the media. Hope so. It's just that time and time again, Trump flouts tradition and custom and people turn a blind eye. When he starts firing people investigating him, that's when it gets scary. Hell, he very clearly threatened Yates before her testimony. Any other president attempting to intimidate a witness like that would have caused a national scandal - it's an abuse of power - but with Trump we just shrug our shoulders.
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Hercules56 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,551	this is some ******** up **. i hope this is the beginning of the end for Trump. this was nothing less than a political, Stalinist purge. Trump sees Comey as a threat to his power, so he fired him.

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Hercules56 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,551	Trump is justifying the firing because of Comey's press conference in May, when he accused Hillary of being very careless with the emails. he's desperate for excuses.

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Hercules56 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,551	Irony is many Democrats called for Comey to resign or be fired, because of his statements against Hillary.

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Bob001 Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,241	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger .... IOW, he believed her guilty and when he found nothing he refused to give up that belief. He criticized her for administrative errors, which is pretty much indisputable. But he also said there was no evidence of criminal intent and no basis for prosecution. That's pretty much the most Clinton could have hoped for.
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dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 36,334	Originally Posted by Bob001 But it's supposed to be a 10-year term to isolate him from political pressures. That's why the FBI director doesn't resign like other top officials when the administration changes. Commentators are already comparing this to the Cox firing. I know that, but he still serves at the President's pleasure. I am surprised that Trump out and out fired him; that seldom happens at this level. Usually the guy is given a opportunity to resign.
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Skeptic Ginger formerly skeptigirl Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 61,548	Originally Posted by Tony Stark http://i.imgur.com/Z20R6Pv.jpg Notice how the letter points out Comey confirmed Trump wasn't under investigation which I don't believe Comey ever said in those words.

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dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 36,334	Originally Posted by Hercules56 Irony is many Democrats called for Comey to resign or be fired, because of his statements against Hillary. Fact is, the leadership of both parties mistrusted Comey. He had shredded his credibility with his 180 degree reversal on Hilarly. I am not surprised that Comey is gone, but am surprised that Trump out and out fired him.
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Skeptic Ginger formerly skeptigirl Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 61,548	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Ha! He fired Comey for the Clinton email investigation disclosures. Cognitive Dissonance of Clinton supporters causes heads to explode. Ignorance at not seeing that claim as pure bull crap causes heads to explode.

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newyorkguy Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NY Posts: 9,015	In his letter to Comey Donnie claims he is acting because Jeff Sessions is "recommending your dismissal." What's that all about?

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Tony Stark Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 9,385	Honestly, as much as I hate Trump it is actually possible that Comey's firing has nothing to do with the Russia investigation and is actually about how he handled Hillary's email investigation.
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Bob001 Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,241	Originally Posted by dudalb I know that, but he still serves at the President's pleasure. I am surprised that Trump out and out fired him; that seldom happens at this level. Usually the guy is given a opportunity to resign. That's part of sticking a thumb in his eye just to prove you can.
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The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 19,456	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Ignorance at not seeing that claim as pure bull crap causes heads to explode. See what I mean folks!
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Bob001 Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,241	Originally Posted by Tony Stark Honestly, as much as I hate Trump it is actually possible that Comey's firing has nothing to do with the Russia investigation and is actually about how he handled Hillary's email investigation. So what does that mean? Is Trump going to order Clinton's prosecution? That would put her back in the public eye for years, after she's already started to fade away. Why would he benefit from that?
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