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View Poll Results: Is a Trump impeachment likely?
Yes, expect to see it happen sometime in the near future. 38 31.15%
No, Trump is safe(for now) 46 37.70%
Don't know 18 14.75%
On planet X Trump will dissolve Congress fire everyone and declare himself POTUS for life 20 16.39%
Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 17th May 2017, 09:00 PM   #1
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Is a a Trump impeachment likely?

Well..... I have nothing to add, the title should be self explanatory.
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You could have added a poll. I'd vote "yes."

Edited to add: I posted too soon, you DID post a poll, you sneaky little devil you!
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One option has reached 100%. Matter settled
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At the current stage, I see the investigation expose the entire administration plus Paul Ryan to be criminally tainted, forcing everyone with a shred to decency to resign.

So no, Trump will stay until the 2018 elections.
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Sadly, I had to vote my head instead of my heart. I voted no.

Although, I took it to mean "in the short term". I don't think we've seen anything worth impeaching him for....yet.
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I'm always wrong about Trump. He's basically admitted to the same thing that Nixon was almost impeached for. There's a special prosecutor now. He's getting nothing done.

Anyone with any sense of either patriotism or just plain access to his emotions would resign so the country can move on to important things like budgets and health care and stuff.

Still, with a Republican legislature that seems to only care that he's alive to sign legislation, and with some sort of disconnect between Republican morality and Trump amorality ... I can't tell anymore.

He should be impeached. Will he be? Maybe not until 2019? Maybe never?

I cant tell.
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Originally Posted by MrFliop View Post
Well..... I have nothing to add, the title should be self explanatory.
IMO not only not likely, I would say very unlikely.

For all the noises, GOP don't seem to do much. So i expect Trump to continue with its antics for 3 years and a half and nothing to happen.
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It's a snowball of stupidity, incompetence, and evil that appears to be gaining speed. In the absence of an impeachment before summer's out (Congress will want to wrap it up with enough time to spin and campaign for 2018), I believe there will be resignation. It will be bittersweet given that Pence will come off the bench, but mostly sweet.
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You could have added a poll. I'd vote "yes."

I would vote yes as well.
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You can't screw up this badly, day after day, bringing all the GOP legislators down with you and make it through 4 years. It's not just about firing Comey and trying to obstruct justice. If not this it will be the next incompetent self-absorbed action.
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I voted no as I don't think the House has enough votes to get rid of him for treason, bribery, high crimes blah blah blah. Would be nice to see him getting the boot though.

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He will get the boot when he becomes too much of a liability for the party. Nixon lost his GOP support because they had to get rid of him before the '74 mid-term elections and try to save their own skins.
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Safe until the midterms. After that, no idea.
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I'm more in the "not yet" camp, although it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't make it 4 years.

Originally Posted by Loss Leader View Post
Still, with a Republican legislature that seems to only care that he's alive to sign legislation, and with some sort of disconnect between Republican morality and Trump amorality ... I can't tell anymore.

He should be impeached. Will he be? Maybe not until 2019? Maybe never?

I cant tell.
I believe the Republican support depends on his poll numbers to a large extent. They won't impeach if his poll numbers stay around 40. If those start to go south though (and it looks like they have already started to move in that direction) then you will probably see his support in congress also start to evaporate.
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Based on past history, the odds are about 1/22. Of course, while both Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were impeached, they were not convicted and thus did not leave office.

You can make arguments for why Trump is more likely than other presidents to be impeached; here's an argument why he's less likely. Because the media are out to get him, have been from before he was elected. And yet they still haven't made anything stick.
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I think Trump takes his ball and goes home. He will resign before it gets that far.
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IMO it's very likely that Trump will server at least one full term. Any attempt at impeachment will likely descend into partisan bickering "the Democrats are making a big deal of this because they're sore that they lost the election" and in any case it'll be years before the process grinds to a conclusion.

There may be some GOP reverses in the 2018 elections, but 2020 is a whole different story and by then GOP voters will be enjoying their tax cuts, and the deficit will not yet be out of control. I think that if he chooses to run then Trump still stands a better than even chance of winning the 2020 Presidential election.
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Impeachment is a slow process that can be slowed down - but once it looks like Trump is definitely going down, it might be in the GOP's interest to try to get the whole thing over as quickly as possible, hoping to present a clean slate for the 2018 elections.
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He will get the boot when he becomes too much of a liability for the party. Nixon lost his GOP support because they had to get rid of him before the '74 mid-term elections and try to save their own skins.
Exactly my not yet has more to do with how republicans are hiding from commenting and making anything known until they get a better gauge how this plays to their base. Until the republican base buys into it, and all of their news sources are saying how unreliable it all is, nothing will move foward.

So really it is up to Fox News.
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If Hillary can survive Benghazi and the e-mails, Trump can survive this.

Depending, of course, on just what "this" turns out to be. I don't think anyone really knows yet.
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Would impeachment require some sort of cross party cooperation?

If so, no.

If not, possibly.
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Define "in the near term". I see an opening after the midterm elections as a possibility, is that in the near term or not?

Short of special prosecutor uncovering major evidence of Trump-Putin collusion, I don't see GOP impeaching him. This is not likely to happen before the elections. If it happens by the end of this year all bets are off though.

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Originally Posted by McHrozni View Post
Define "in the near term". I see an opening after the midterm elections as a possibility, is that in the near term or not?

Short of special prosecutor uncovering major evidence of Trump-Putin collusion, I don't see GOP impeaching him. This is not lokely to happen before the elections.

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Impeached for what?
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Of course we will have to wait and see what new scandals we get next week.
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So really it is up to Fox News.
Fox has a 100% monopoly on the pro-Trump audience. Why in the world would they give up that edge?
No other media outlet can deliver this target audience to their advertisers.

No, Fox will stick with Trump probably even past an impeachment and even incarceration.
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I think Trump takes his ball and goes home. He will resign before it gets that far.
I agree with this, with the exception that Trump has no balls.

(Metaphorically, of course.)

Trump's narcissism won't let him get into a position where he loses, so he'll do what he always does in these situations and declare a strategic bankruptcy with a premise of a rigged system and forces conspiring against him.

On the other hand, and here I hope I'm wrong, this Republican-run House will never impeach a Republican President. This isn't the 70s. Integrity is a thing of the past. Party before county.
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If Hillary can survive Benghazi and the e-mails, Trump can survive this.
Hillary isn't in office any more.
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I think Trump wants to be impeached.

This whole presidenting thing is getting in the way of his cable news consumption and golfing schedule. If he can get himself impeached, he can say that the establishment politicians were so scared of them, they had to conspire to expel him from the White House. He can claim that if only people had listened, he would have #MAGA, and the pansy Washington beltway conspired to fix the game against him.
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I voted yes, but it is dependent on a few things.

1) The Comey memos are real and at least as explosive as they have been claimed to be if not more so.

2) The GOP growing a Backbone and deciding that they can live with President Pence.

As to the what for, I suspect that should 1) be confirmed, it'd going to be for obstruction of Justice.
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Hillary isn't in office any more.
Sabbatical.
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Yes, he is an arrogant and not bright dodgy bussinessman with no knowledge or care for government ethics. He is openly on shakey ground with his behaviour towards Comey, which has been triggered by investigations into dealings with Russians, both political interference and possible money laundering.
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If you manage to impeach two presidents, you get the third Impeachment for free.
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Sabbatical.
No, she hasn't been elected to anything since and not for lack of trying. She only survived it in the sense that there was never any legitimate reason to "LOCK HER UP".

If the various investigations finds that Trump either obstructed justice (and it's hard to see how they couldn't, given his tweets) or colluded with Russia, that will be a distinct difference between Trump's and Clinton's situations.
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Once Comey presents his memos then it would be all over for Trump. It was most bizarre that people believed a pathological liar could make America great.

Perhaps Trump will resign before impeachment and blame the Democrats.
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The combination of intentional gerrymandering and coincidental "gerrymandering" due to the modern tendency of demographic groups to self-segregate makes it unlikely that the Republicans will lose their majority in the House in 2018. And I don't see a political party impeaching a president from their party unless he doesn't something that is so blatantly bad that the country overwhelmingly supports removal of the president.
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At the current stage, I see the investigation expose the entire administration plus Paul Ryan to be criminally tainted, forcing everyone with a shred to decency to resign.
That would leave only the bad guys in congress!
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Impeached for what?
You're so cute.
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I voted yes, but it is dependent on a few things.

1) The Comey memos are real and at least as explosive as they have been claimed to be if not more so.

2) The GOP growing a Backbone and deciding that they can live with President Pence.

As to the what for, I suspect that should 1) be confirmed, it'd going to be for obstruction of Justice.
But in this new age you expect that from a president just like you expect an attorney general to commit perjury.
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