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Old 20th February 2015, 04:21 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by Charlie Wilkes View Post
This case may smolder for awhile, and we may see some interesting developments. From all I have read, it seems only remotely possible Henri did not commit this crime. If his relatives wish to keep a scandal subdued, they must keep him subdued. The challenge might substantially elevate household stress levels. What is the protocol when an ax murderer becomes a long-term guest? Should one offer a glib excuse for installing a deadbolt on one's bedroom door, or is it better to say nothing?

It's also possible someone will wake up in the middle of the night and think, "you know, it doesn't seem right that cousin Henri got away with killing his family," and take to social media with their concerns.

The police may be content to bide their time, and let this family live with the project they have taken on.
The concerning aspect is always that sober analysis ignores, and scarcely allows for the altered mind states that probably motivate, and thus explain these crimes. In NZ they are regrettably commonplace, statistically.

In simple terms there should be 60 crimes of a similar nature to an NZ crime in US, There should be 5 in SA republic or Australia.
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Old 20th February 2015, 05:35 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by anglolawyer View Post
What's fascinating is the distinctive sociological setting of all these cases. Italy is a far cry from SA which is very different from England etc. In SA we have a large and dangerous criminal class, an encircled white minority, truly awful police and a strong and robust legal tradition with an independently-minded judiciary. IMO this strongly colours these cases and enriches their instructive quality.

A most insightful comment.

Originally Posted by anglolawyer View Post
The forensics ought to make it open and shut. It's actually very odd that he has not been arrested - no head injury (I assume), history of serious drug abuse, no sign of forced entry and, very likely, an incriminating crime scene one way or another. Those aren't things that take weeks of analysis usually. So what's going on?
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truly awful police
Asked and answered

It could also be the case that SAPS (SA police service) is aware of the publicity and are loathe to have another Dewani or Pistorius fiasco and so are taking their time and being more tight-lipped than usual.

That or they're just incompetent. Or both. Probably both.
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Old 24th February 2015, 12:53 AM   #43
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Nothing new to report this morning. Marli is still unable so speak and doctors are concerned that her brain damage is such that she might never be able speak again

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Old 24th February 2015, 02:42 AM   #44
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Nothing new to report this morning. Marli is still unable so speak and doctors are concerned that her brain damage is such that she might be able speak again
This is too dreadful, in an eastern quadrant two Australians will be shot in a few days. Henri was a crazed ingester of substances that have captured his life, and his family's.
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Old 23rd June 2016, 01:37 AM   #45
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<Zombie thread resurrection warning>

It appears the Henri has finally been arrested and charged. According to the news reports, the NPA (national prosecuting authority) sent the case back to police several times for lack of evidence. At this point the prosecution have been forced (or so it appears) to move forward with what they have. This does not bode well for the prosecution.

http://city-press.news24.com/News/va...tough-20160618

Is anyone willing to predict the outcome of this case? I'd guess that if it's taken a year for the NPA to move on this, they probably don't have an ironclad case and it doesn't appear that any new damning evidence has come to light...

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Old 3rd February 2017, 12:40 AM   #46
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No new information on the article other than his trial starts today...

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfri...court-20170202
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Old 3rd February 2017, 04:01 AM   #47
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Octavo, are we essentially seeing a drug fuelled slaughter?
If so the case is interesting to various professionals and researchers, but not to help in more complex matters of wrongful accusation etc.
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Old 3rd February 2017, 06:04 AM   #48
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Octavo, are we essentially seeing a drug fuelled slaughter?
If so the case is interesting to various professionals and researchers, but not to help in more complex matters of wrongful accusation etc.
Well that's what the media has been speculating, but both defense and prosecution have been tight lipped, so I'm interested to follow the case.

Henri and his girlfriend were arrested and charged with possession of marijuana in December, but he managed somehow to keep his bail

Of course he has the finest lawyers money can buy so it should be a spirited defense
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Old 3rd February 2017, 08:35 AM   #49
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Trial scheduled to start 27 March. Will necro this thread then.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-cour...n-dock-7597212
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Old 3rd February 2017, 04:34 PM   #50
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I find this case interesting. Please let us know how it goes in court. I wonder if we can watch it like we watched the Pistorius trial.
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Old 3rd February 2017, 10:51 PM   #51
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I find this case interesting. Please let us know how it goes in court. I wonder if we can watch it like we watched the Pistorius trial.
I'm glad there is some interest. I'll be sure to keep the thread updated in that case. I don't know if this will get TV coverage, but there it will most likely be live-tweeted.
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Old 4th February 2017, 08:39 PM   #52
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Either he did it or it is a locked room mystery.
These are neatly devised in fiction, but in the real world?
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Old 5th February 2017, 10:24 PM   #53
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Either he did it or it is a locked room mystery.
These are neatly devised in fiction, but in the real world?
Well, to play advocate for a minute, violent home invasions are not uncommon in South Africa.

On the other hand, this happened inside a gated golf estate, no evidence of a break in and nothing stolen, so yeah, he almost certainly did it.
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Old 26th March 2017, 10:36 PM   #54
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Trial starts today

Trial scheduled to start today, with the judge to decide on whether the trial will be broadcast/live-tweeted.

Some nice catch-up articles appearing this morning:

We start with a handy info-graphic identifying the key persons involved in the incident.

Here, you will find a summation of the time-line and key events to date.

Here you will find a more detailed "all you need to know" type article.
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Judge Siraj Desai has agreed to let the trial be broadcast. No exhibits will be recorded and it looks like Marli's testimony will also not be broadcast.


Judge Desai: An absolute bar on audio recordings of bench discussions and of discussion between advocates.

10:14
No exhibits may be photographed or recorded.

10:14
Judge Siraj Desai grants the right for the Van Breda trial to be broadcast, but no footage of Marli van Breda can be shown without prior consent.
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Old 27th March 2017, 03:10 AM   #56
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Octavo:
I could read all that material, but is there any chance it is not a meth fuelled attack on people that were attempting to change his behaviour? That you are aware of?
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I could read all that material, but is there any chance it is not a meth fuelled attack on people that were attempting to change his behaviour? That you are aware of?
There absolutely is a small chance that is was a home invasion. They're hardly uncommon in South Africa and home invasions in SA tend to be violent. Killing or raping the family should they be caught at home is not at all an uncommon outcome for such crimes.

That said, the house is within a well-secured golf estate. Most middle & upper class families move to such protected enclaves to avoid home invasions and hijackings. These complexes typically have wrought iron fences with electric fencing all the way around, 24hr manned security boom at the entrance etc.

The chance that an assailant made it into the complex undetected, commited these heinous acts and then escaped without detection should strain anyone's credibility to breaking point... unless you could show the gate guard was involved somehow. Even then, you're going to have to work VERY hard.

Too many problem's with Henri's story. The google search for EMS numbers, which were only called > 3 hours later is going to be VERY hard for him to explain.

I'm interested in this case, not because Henri is likely to get off, but simply to see how far a well-paid defence attorney can go with what should be a slam-dunk for the prosecution.
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Oh goody - I will have to find a place to watch the trial. I enjoyed OP's trial. It's always interesting to learn about other countries and their justice systems.
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Oh goody - I will have to find a place to watch the trial. I enjoyed OP's trial. It's always interesting to learn about other countries and their justice systems.
Well, we'll all have to wait a bit longer I'm afraid. The defense has indicated it will appeal the broadcast decision all the way to the constitutional court and are still waiting for DNA evidence apparently. Trial delayed until 24 April for appeals etc.

I suppose this is exactly how you go about things if you're a defendant with lots of money and little prospect of a not guilty verdict. Delay, delay, delay, appeal, appeal, appeal.

Anyone wiling to start a betting pool on when the trial will *actually* get underway? I'm going with first quarter 2018.
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Trial has resumed today.

The salient points so far:

Henri has pled not guilty to all charges.

He has outlined his version of events briefly, explaining how he was injured. His description sounds like something from a horror movie, with the axeman allegedly laughing while going about his grisly work.

Importantly the medical reports indicate there were NO drugs found in Henri's blood, ruling out the salacious rumour that this was a meth-fuelled slaying.

Live reporting available here:
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...egins-20170424
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Trial has resumed today.

The salient points so far:

Henri has pled not guilty to all charges.

He has outlined his version of events briefly, explaining how he was injured. His description sounds like something from a horror movie, with the axeman allegedly laughing while going about his grisly work.

Importantly the medical reports indicate there were NO drugs found in Henri's blood, ruling out the salacious rumour that this was a meth-fuelled slaying.

Live reporting available here:
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...egins-20170424
Thanks Octavo.
Good news that Henri may have a defence.
Very interesting.
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Apologies for the lack of coverage, but I have been taken up with other things recently.

The defense is laying out their case and the facts revealed so far certainly raise some doubts. Here are the key points (full article linked below)

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He alleges an intruder wearing a balaclava, gloves and dark clothes was behind the attack and that he had heard other voices of people speaking Afrikaans in their home
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advocate Pieter Botha, for Henri van Breda, argued that the windows in the Van Breda family's former dining room are big enough for a burglar to gain entry to the home
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At an inspection of the De Zalze home, defence lawyer Lorinda van Niekerk demonstrated how easy it was to access the Van Breda house. She easily scaled a wall and gate.

Blood droplets were also noted in photo evidence near one of the side gates, and was found on the wall of an adjacent property. This wall is opposite the room in which Rudi was hacked to death.
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...urt-20170502-5
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So, no drugs in his system although reports indicate his breath smelled of alcohol. Blood found on the wall nearby. It's not exactly the most stunning defense yet, but it might just have legs. I guess we'll see.

Anyone willing to speculate on the little we know so far?
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Botha for the defense is crossing Kleinhans (one of the cops). Some interesting sparring.

Defense accuses investigator of making up his mind about the scene before investigating. Asks why the police talked to the media about smelling alcohol on his breath when the blood tests revealed nothing.

Botha now bringing up previous history of break-ins at the estate.

Botha: we have evidence from 2002 till incident that 190 different crimes happened on De Zalze. That's 24 break ins.

EDIT:

On the stand is the security guard on duty that night for the estate. He confirms (and has geotagged & timestamped reports to back him up) that he checked on the security fence 5 times during his shift and did not find anything wrong at any point. The electric fence is reportedly very high tech and would have alerted the guard to anyone attempting to climb it.

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Botha for the defense is crossing Kleinhans (one of the cops). Some interesting sparring.

Defense accuses investigator of making up his mind about the scene before investigating. Asks why the police talked to the media about smelling alcohol on his breath when the blood tests revealed nothing.
Both are good points. Tunnel vision (confirmation bias) is a clear problem in homicide and arson investigations IMO. Are there rules which govern what the police can and cannot say to the media?
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So, no drugs in his system although reports indicate his breath smelled of alcohol. Blood found on the wall nearby. It's not exactly the most stunning defense yet, but it might just have legs. I guess we'll see.

Anyone willing to speculate on the little we know so far?
I'd like to know more about the blood found outside. I'm not sure it can overcome the evidence from the prosecution, but I would like to know more about it.

Thank you for updating!
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Both are good points. Tunnel vision (confirmation bias) is a clear problem in homicide and arson investigations IMO. Are there rules which govern what the police can and cannot say to the media?
There are some regulations, but in general the cops may speak to the media about their area of operation of they want to. Full rules are available if you Google this :
STANDING ORDER (GENERAL) 156 MEDIA COMMUNICATION IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN ...
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I'd like to know more about the blood found outside. I'm not sure it can overcome the evidence from the prosecution, but I would like to know more about it.

Thank you for updating!
We will have to see, but it already looks a bit like the media lapped up the cops statements and rushed to paint Henri as the only possible culprit. I'll be very interested to see how the rest of his defense plays out

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Day 5 & 6

Things got interesting in yesterdays afternoon session!

The guard on duty that night continued with his testimony, stating that he tested the alarm several times that night, everything was working and that there were no alarms triggered.

Combrink for the defense says he has a report from the security company stating that indeed the alarm did go off that night. Three times...

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The alarms were activated - once after 19:00, again after 01:00 and, finally, after 03:00. The alarms were activated on the perimeter fence.
Full article available here.

This morning (day 6), the state has called the second security guard on duty that night. Testimony is boring stuff, basically emphasizing how secure the estate is - builders must be fingerprinted, patrol cars on the estate, blah, blah. The state's implication that the place is tighter than fort knox is wearing a bit thin on me personally, but there you go.

On the cross, Combrink asks if someone could get over the (electrified) fence using insulation. Guard says it sounds risky. Combrink points out that there were 20 police reports between 2014 & 2015 with zero arrests made. Guard says he thinks he remembers one arrest.

Originally Posted by Live reporting - defence
Some housebreaking or theft cases at estate, the suspect was "undetected". "We know it's possible to get inside".

Do we detect the first unraveling of the state's case?
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Alarm went off at 01:37 on 27 Jan 2015 in zone 39 and someone patrolled at 01:41. Wyngaard says it was not him.

Guard Lorenzo Afrika yesterday said he did not check alarm that went off. Wyngaard, his supervisor, now says he also didn't check.

Bwahahaha... the state requests a postponement to review the evidence. The defence objects, but Judge Desai grants the request.

Court has been adjourned to Monday morning!

Live reporting available here

ETA1: Fence referred to is electric fence, hence the need for insulation to scale it
ETA2: After tea testimony added
ETA3: State requests postponement
ETA4: Formatting & apologies for the ratty post

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There are some regulations, but in general the cops may speak to the media about their area of operation of they want to. Full rules are available if you Google this :
STANDING ORDER (GENERAL) 156 MEDIA COMMUNICATION IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN ...
Sorry, was on my phone when I posted this and stuggled to copy a PDF link, because my phone kept opening it in the PDF viewer and the 2 hour window for edits is long gone, but here it is anyway:

http://r2k.org.za/wp-content/uploads..._Order_156.pdf
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Things got interesting in yesterdays afternoon session!

The guard on duty that night continued with his testimony, stating that he tested the alarm several times that night, everything was working and that there were no alarms triggered.

Combrink for the defense says he has a report from the security company stating that indeed the alarm did go off that night. Three times...



Full article available here.

This morning (day 6), the state has called the second security guard on duty that night. Testimony is boring stuff, basically emphasizing how secure the estate is - builders must be fingerprinted, patrol cars on the estate, blah, blah. The state's implication that the place is tighter than fort knox is wearing a bit thin on me personally, but there you go.

On the cross, Combrink asks if someone could get over the (electrified) fence using insulation. Guard says it sounds risky. Combrink points out that there were 20 police reports between 2014 & 2015 with zero arrests made. Guard says he thinks he remembers one arrest.




Do we detect the first unraveling of the state's case?



Bwahahaha... the state requests a postponement to review the evidence. The defence objects, but Judge Desai grants the request.

Court has been adjourned to Monday morning!

Live reporting available here

ETA1: Fence referred to is electric fence, hence the need for insulation to scale it
ETA2: After tea testimony added
ETA3: State requests postponement
ETA4: Formatting & apologies for the ratty post
Very interesting! Muchas gracias for updates, seriously. I come here to see what's been going on in court.
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Day 7

Summary

A fairly boring day by most accounts. The security manager for the estate took the stand to once again stress the secure nature of the estate. The defence did their best to poke holes, pointing out deficiencies in the security and using previous security reports which were not acted upon which indicate the estate was perhaps not as secure as is being made out.

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Rossouw: De Zalze Estate security manager.
Botha: Advocate for the defence.
Galloway: Prosecutor.

Highlights

According to the patrol report of that night, the security officers completed their patrols as is required.

A report from Thorburn Security - De Zalze's security company - now being discussed. It says that according to an interview with the controller, the system was checked for actual activations for the night before and morning of the murder

Four incidents were confirmed. These were not true alarms, she says. These were followed up on; there was a power drop, means there could later be a problem with the system.

People said they had heard a car speeding; there were no complaints reported the night. Suspect it could be the person who delivers the newspapers.

Rossouw concedes that entry is possible if someone activates fence - with a branch, for example - at a zone, and enters at the already activated fence and runs into the property, alarm would be triggered.

Judge Desai asks if it would be possible to dig a tunnel. Rossouw says one would have seen signs of this. There were no signs of this, nor footprints, damage or wires being cut.

According to report, about 35% of the fence under CCTV cameras. Vast areas could not be seen by the cameras. The camera system did not change between 2012 and the night of the murders.

The report reads that CCTV camera footage is inadequate, Botha says.

Botha asks if she saw there were more than the four "alarm ons" on the report. She says she did.

26 January at 1:08 - first alarm on. What activated this? Rossouw says when a fence test is done, that is when the alarm is activated. It is logged

Did you check that it's alarm tests?

Rossouw: no I didn't do that personally.

Rossouw says she can't confirm what causes these activations.

At 01:41 a patrol was conducted. Both who were on duty denied that they had been there, Botha says. Rossouw says she can't recall. Galloway objects, says both witnesses said if was long ago and they couldn't remember everything.

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According to report, about 35% of the fence under CCTV cameras. Vast areas could not be seen by the cameras. The camera system did not change between 2012 and the night of the murders.

The report reads that CCTV camera footage is inadequate, Botha says.
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It seems that if the crime had been perpetrated by someone other than Henri, that person or persons would have had to have known which parts were not covered by CCTV, in order to avoid them. This would point to an inside job of sorts.
I suppose the most likely explanation is still Henri himself.
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It seems that if the crime had been perpetrated by someone other than Henri, that person or persons would have had to have known which parts were not covered by CCTV, in order to avoid them. This would point to an inside job of sorts.
I suppose the most likely explanation is still Henri himself.
Agreed. I think the defense is doing a good job of showing reasonable doubt so far.

I hope that the forensics will be more conclusive, but given the state of our crime labs and perennial underfunding, I'm not going to bet on it.

I think one of the articles had a map of the estate. I'll see if I can find it and post it tomorrow, so we can plot what routes an intruder could have to have taken and how plausible that looks given the other houses in the estate should have been more of less equally likely to be the target.

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Day 8

Summary
The defense continues their cross of Rossouw, the estate manager. Security footage from the night is played and the defense shows that at least 5 cars entered the estate that night without anything being logged. There are also 3 hours of CCTV footage missing.

The defense is doing a good job of sowing doubt about the overall security at the estate.

Cast
Rossouw: De Zalze Estate security manager.
Botha: Advocate for the defence.
Galloway: Prosecutor.

Highlights
3:17 - a white car pulled up to the gate. No record of it on the logs

4:19 - a guard takes down the registration number of a taxi. No record of it in the logs. Rossouw says if it is staff, they would have had an access card.

At 4:29 another vehicle enters, without being stopped. No record on the logs.

Statement from gate security guard said it was a quiet night and from 23:00 after restaurant closed, no other vehicles entering or exited.

This is clearly incorrect, Botha says.

5:25 - a bakie with a canopy enters. No record of it.

Botha says procedure wasn't followed in logging entering vehicles. Rossouw says this is possible.

It seems there are three hours missing from this footage. (in ref to cctv cameras)

Photos taken in 2013 of guards sleeping at the gates part of evidence handed up by Botha

Footage shows about 5 vehicles entered Klein Zalze night of #vanbreda murders and not logged

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Day 9

Cast
Siraj Desai: Judge.
Botha: Advocate for the defence.
Combrink: Advocate for the defence.
Galloway: Prosecutor.
Cornelius Andries - Andre - van Breda: Henri's uncle and Martin's brother (Martin being Henri's dad).
Precious Myongane: Domestic worker for the van Breda family.

Summary
Andre starts by describing the family as close-knit, his brother Martin as an honest and successful businessman. Andre and Botha discuss Henri's visit to the house after the murders to collect wine and expensive whiskeys. The domestic worker for the family identifies the axe and knife used in the attacks as ones that were always in the house. On the cross she admits she can't be certain it's the same, but it looks the same. The judge objects to a "toturous" line of questioning.

Highlights
Nothing was missing from the house. Nothing was noted or indications that anything was gone. He couldn't see anything was missing.

Henri fetched some wines and an expensive Japanese whiskey which had sentimental value from the house after the murder.

Domestic worker says she would enter from a side gate. The key was on a piece of string at the gate. She used the back door, which was left unlocked. 'I just opened and entered.'

Shown photo of an axe, cigarettes. She had identified the items - the axe was the same one that had been in the house. Usually stored in a shelf in the scullery where I used to fetch the ironing board

She is now shown exhibit one, the axe, and exhibit 2 - the knife. Myongane says they look the same as what was in the house

She doesn't know what the axe was used for in the past, as she never saw anyone using it. There was a fireplace outside the house.

Combrink is trying to determine if it's the same axe that had been in the pantry. He tells Desai he is testing whether the axe was brought there. Desai says he finds the line of questioning torturous.

Combrink says Marli's ex-boyfriend described it to have a black head and longer handle. The one shown is green.
Desai says it's a very dark green from where he is sitting. Galloway says there is some black on the head.

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Day 10

Cast
Siraj Desai: Judge.
Botha: Advocate for the defence.
Galloway: Prosecutor.
James Reade-Jahn: Marli's ex-boyfriend.
Nicholas Steyn: Police Captain (28 years on the force)

Summary
An interesting morning. Both Henri and Marli's romantic interests at the time take the stand. Henri's gf describes the family as normal and well-adjusted. Marli's boyfriend (James) spends longer in the box, also describing the family as close and happy. James remembers the family axe as having a black head, not the green headed axe recovered from the scene.

Police Captain Steyn is next to take the stand. He indicates the scene did not appear to be a robbery as nothing was disturbed or taken. He relates how calm Henri was. Defense gets Steyn to concede that people respond to shock in wildly different ways.

Court adjourned until Monday.

Highlights
James Reade-Jahn on the witness stand.

His family knew the Van Bredas, says they were family friends. They were dating at the time of the family's murders. He was 16 in 2015.
Saw them as a normal family. All seemed to have good relationships with one another, a few arguments, as with all families. But besides that, nothing detrimental to the family.

The axe: earlier in 2014, I walked into the house after school and Martin had bought an axe. I saw if a few times after that in garage. The axe I saw was 40 - 50cm long, light brown handle, black top with silver blade. When I saw the picture, the blood on the axe made it look very similar. Distorted the colour and made it seem black.

He is shown exhibit A - he recognises shape and size, but from his recollection head of axe was black. Back to the axe. Reade-Jahn says the axe he remembers was black. Exhibit is green.

Police Captain Steyn on the stand.

Scene was not deurmekaar (turned upside-down/messy/mixed up). Usually a house robbery would see items thrown out of cupboards, etc
His experience says cellphones, laptops and small valuables would be taken. These were all still in the house. Strange they would come into house and not take anything.
Investigated to see forced entry. Couldn't find anything at that time.

The person would have had to have blood on his hands. If he jumped over wall there would be blood, but none. Also no shoe print.

Steyn now relates Henri's account from that morning. Steyn interviewed him in an ambulance. Henri fought with attackers, fainted, awoke, googled emergancy services.

There were no robberies or murders at De Zalze before this.

Botha on the cross for Steyn: Although there were no signs of an intruder escaping, there is a possibility, Botha asks. Steyn agrees. Botha says a blood spatter expert had been on scene and said he cant exclude that the blood spatter landed on side wall due to object being carried past the area. There was no blood on Henri's socks, Botha says. Steyn agrees. There was blood on his boxer shorts.

Some people become hysterical, some cry ,others don't, some are quiet, Adv Botha says to Steyn. He agrees.

Botha says Henri had so many injuries it couldn't fit on the J88. Among them were knobs on his face, various cuts and a bruise under his knee.

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Thank you, Octavo!

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That axe is green, not black. It is clearly green and the handle is hardly light brown, it is blonde.
What that means I don't know but if it has to be black to suit the prosecution it isn't. It is a good thing you got the picture Octavo. The colour of the desk looks true.

Earlier we hear Henri was not on drugs. His plan is hopeless if he also regards the property as secure, and unable to be breached. And his catalogue of injuries odd if self inflicted.
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Thank you, Octavo!

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I'm glad people find it interesting. Doesn't hurt to boost my abysmal post count either
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That axe is green, not black. It is clearly green and the handle is hardly light brown, it is blonde.
What that means I don't know but if it has to be black to suit the prosecution it isn't. It is a good thing you got the picture Octavo. The colour of the desk looks true.

Earlier we hear Henri was not on drugs. His plan is hopeless if he also regards the property as secure, and unable to be breached. And his catalogue of injuries odd if self inflicted.
I agree, the axe is clearly green, not black. I've got to say that my initial prediction about the trial is starting to look fairly accurate. Given the initial media reports it seemed like a slam dunk case, just like Dewani and Pistorious, so obviously, he'll be aquitted and we'll all lose our minds.
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