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Old 24th March 2015, 08:37 PM   #2081
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Originally Posted by Son of Inigo View Post
So just how are memories held neurologically?

Lovingly, tenderly, in the palm of the brain's hand.

Seriously, that's a question LI proponents should be willing and able to answer. It might be worth writing their developer/contact person, Peggy Pace (who can be reached here: ppace@LifespanIntegration.com ) to ask that. If approached gently, there's a chance she might even respond. Then again, it might be more satisfying to make your skepticism obvious. You could pass along a link to this thread.

I'll leave you with this work of art from Ms Pace's informative article, The Neuroscience of Lifespan Integration Therapy:

This diagram represents a fragmented self system of separated neural networks. There is no solid core or ‘center’ of the self.
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Old 25th March 2015, 07:36 PM   #2082
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Originally Posted by Dismember View Post
Lovingly, tenderly, in the palm of the brain's hand.

Seriously, that's a question LI proponents should be willing and able to answer. It might be worth writing their developer/contact person, Peggy Pace (who can be reached here: ppace@LifespanIntegration.com ) to ask that. If approached gently, there's a chance she might even respond. Then again, it might be more satisfying to make your skepticism obvious. You could pass along a link to this thread.

I'll leave you with this work of art from Ms Pace's informative article, The Neuroscience of Lifespan Integration Therapy:

This diagram represents a fragmented self system of separated neural networks. There is no solid core or ‘center’ of the self.
http://i.imgur.com/gAhZYfC.jpg
Isn't that the logo of the Intergalactic Trans-planetary Olympics?
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Old 26th March 2015, 08:05 PM   #2083
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto View Post
Isn't that the logo of the Intergalactic Trans-planetary Olympics?

No. It's missing the infrared circle.
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Old 5th May 2015, 06:47 AM   #2084
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Mercy Ministries: The Wild West of Recovered Memory Therapy

Hey JRE-- er, ISers, please consider reading and signing the petition linked at the top of this page:

The Devil and Mercy Ministries: A Conversation with Chelsea Darhower

To my knowledge, Mercy Ministries hasn't been mentioned here, or perhaps only in passing. They are generally upstaged by places like Castlewood Treatment Center, which was getting a lot of publicity with the lawsuits filed against them.

Mercy Ministries combines the worst of faith-based malpractice with the worst of the Recovered Memory techniques. They are keen to accept applicants who are diagnosed with DID, not because it will guarantee them years of steady income with long-term treatment, but because the founder, Nancy Alcorn is obsessed with "deliverance sessions" (casting out demons) and she believes (and hires staff who agree with her) that the "alters" are demons. This gets her a lot of traction among the Pentecostal sect and among many Christians who still believe in such things, and think shes performing some miraculous service. Many of the residents also leave having "recovered" memories of "extreme abuse", Ritual Abuse, or "memories" of having been a victim of human trafficking. Repressed/recovered memories of human trafficking is replacing repressed memories of Satanic Ritual Abuse in these circles.

Unlike places like Castlewood, Mercy Ministries is not an accredited, licensed mental health care facility. They are, in fact, listed as a charity. While Castlewood at least has some standards they must adhere to, Mercy Ministries doesn't even have that -- there is no oversight at all, and the residents who leave more broken than they arrived are left with no recourse.

Please take a moment to read, or at least skim, the conversation with Chelsea Darhower, former Mercy Ministries resident, and consider signing the petition to the Governor of Tennessee requesting that he investigate and hold Mercy to some standard of practice (or better, simply shut them down).
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Old 5th May 2015, 09:16 AM   #2085
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Signed.

Thanks for posting the link.
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Old 5th May 2015, 05:10 PM   #2086
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Signed. The comments from the signers - both people who were "treated" at Mercy Ministries as well as their family - are heart wrenching.
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Old 5th May 2015, 08:28 PM   #2087
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Originally Posted by Orphia Nay View Post
From an open letter to Dr Phil by Douglas Mesner at Examiner:

http://www.examiner.com/article/jour...-health-menace





Just this week, Dr Phil was promoting the use of psychics in missing persons cases. Now this?!

The man is a menace, alright. Disgusting.
Him, Dr. Oz, Montel Williams - and so many more. All slime that should be trodden underfoot or jailed for life for the idiocies they promote to capture their audiences of inept, incredulous, incompetent fools.
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Old 6th May 2015, 06:20 AM   #2088
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Xterra and ddt, heartfelt thanks to both of you.

Yes, in any write-up on Mercy Ministries where parents and former residents comment, one is bound to see the most heart-wrenching accounts

As an aside, since the formation of False Memory Facebook group, it's been an interesting and rather heartwarming experience to see so many religious people, many of them devout, so grateful and appreciative of the skeptics there who are interested in their plight and want to help them get justice. When the group was new, most of the (primarily religious) false memory retractors and the families who lost their children/spouses/siblings quickly became aware that a significant number in the group were nonbelievers and skeptics, but beyond a few civil discussions here and there, it has never been an issue. The conversations don't devolve into religion or atheism bashing. For those families, the experience has changed their view of atheists and skeptics in a positive way.
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Old 9th May 2015, 11:47 PM   #2089
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Old 10th May 2015, 09:53 PM   #2090
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Originally Posted by fuelair View Post
Him, Dr. Oz, Montel Williams - and so many more. All slime that should be trodden underfoot or jailed for life for the idiocies they promote to capture their audiences of inept, incredulous, incompetent fools.
It bears noting that the article linked in the post you quoted was written before the show in question aired. In the show as it eventually aired, Dr. Phil projects an air of cautious skepticism of Judy's claims, and puts challenging questions to her at least twice. As a result the audience audibly disapproves of Judy's control over her victim's money. Judy looks around nervously as her credibility is questioned and undermined on national television. It's a pretty sweet moment.

Whether Dr. Phil deserves the branding of "slime that should be trodden underfoot or jailed for life for the idiocies they promote to capture their audiences of inept, incredulous, incompetent fools" is an open question, but from a reasoned perspective he did nothing objectionable in this particulat instance, beyond allowing Judy to appear on his show.
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Old 11th May 2015, 12:45 AM   #2091
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Old 15th May 2015, 09:08 AM   #2092
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Fuelair, as others have noted, the Dr. Phil show turned out better than expected, and the fallout eventually prompted Judy Byington to mimic Doug with her own poorly-written Open Letter to Dr. Phil.

Having said that, I tend to agree with you about talk show hosts in general. They had a significant role in instigating the Satanic Panic the first time around, and it's disgraceful how many hack journalists are still giving positive press to charlatans (Teal Scott, aka Teal Swan, for example) who claim Satanic Ritual Abuse.

Here's one of Teal Scott's interviews with a FOX/ABC affiliate:
https://youtu.be/B1CxV_nISyE
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Old 15th May 2015, 12:22 PM   #2093
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Having said that, I tend to agree with you about talk show hosts in general. They had a significant role in instigating the Satanic Panic the first time around, and it's disgraceful how many hack journalists are still giving positive press to charlatans (Teal Scott, aka Teal Swan, for example) who claim Satanic Ritual Abuse.
Don't forget Geraldo Rivera who still has a job as a reporter to this day (almost three decades later).
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Old 15th May 2015, 11:35 PM   #2094
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I don't buy into the quoted material in the OP, however, there is such a thing as Satanism. And Satanists idolize and worship the Devil just as other religions deities are worshipped by their adherents.

Are they going to do extreme counterculture stuff, like weird ass perverse rituals? Yeah. Do they all? No, probably not. But just as we see in all religions, there is a certain percentage of the ideological community who take their beliefs very, very seriously.
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Do you have evidence of such rituals being practiced? And when I mean such rituals, I am not talking about naked dancing around a fire. I am talking about actual perverse stuff, virgin/infant sacrifice and such.
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