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21st July 2016, 11:12 AM | #161 |
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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21st July 2016, 11:12 AM | #162 |
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On the officer side of this debate, the Dallas Chief had an excellent observation about this. As the legislators cut back treatment for the mentally ill, it falls on the cops, and no they aren't trained.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard cops claim anyone getting shot other than in a shootout it was, "suicide by cop". It doesn't bother them a bit when they say it, as if the victim deserved it. |
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Ironic that lack of training and competence ( ... with regard to marksmanship ) of the police officer probably saved the man's life.
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I'll ask my brother what kind of M4 he is issued. It may be just semi automatic. But there is no reason it can't have three round burst or even full auto capabilities. Police departments can purchase those weapons if they want.
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I actually would too. Or say well, maybe put him on desk duty. If he had good reason to be pointing his rifle at someone with a potential split second reason to shoot. But he didn't. He was pointing it at an unarmed man with his hands in the air explaining that he was trying to help an also unarmed mentally ill person.
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Since no one died.
You can't blame the police for being concerned about the toy truck - in 2014 alone 11 people were killed by toys and a quarter million of people injured. Why there isn't stronger regulation on these deadly and dangerous toys I simply don't know. |
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Depending on where it hit it's possible. I was tagged just above the knee by a .222 & I fell in mid stride, thought I'd tripped & banged my knee on something. Didn't realize I'd been shot until I looked.
Not saying it wasn't a ricochet mind you, but it is possible to not feel like you'd think. |
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Gee, guess we should be cuffing people in the ED, never know when they are going to slug you if you hurt them during an exam.
Sorry, I'm not buying that, cuff first, figure out the bloody obvious after. Your gun accidentally went off, there was no man with a gun, it was a toy truck!!! How long does that take to figure out? |
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"It was like a mosquito bite, and when it hit me, I'm like, I still got my hands in the air, and I said, 'No I just got shot!' And I'm saying, 'Sir, why did you shoot me?'" Kinsey recalled, "and his words to me, he said, 'I don't know.'"
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...ile-he-n614106 That's pretty-much spot-on. |
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At five pages in that's quite a reach. Don't you think?
Even taken at face value (that it was an accident, and not in any way criminal) it still doesn't in any way convey the sentiment that the victim "deserved" to be shot. Maybe this thread illustrates something WRT other threads discussing officer shootings. Some things are more "obvious" than others. |
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2 (out of 3) of my young adult kids are on the autistic spectrum. One of them is routinely mistaken for mixed-race.
This is one of the reasons I fear and distrust police. And yes, the local police have not only shot people in mental health crisis, they've also let them bleed to death rather than get medical help. |
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It depends. First, it wasn't a little mistake. Second all of their actions after shots fired at a minimum need disciplinary action. Third, whether the shooter is fired depends on his work record, but this should not be some little report that shows up in his annual review. An accidental discharge is a mistake of the highest magnitude.
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He's complaining about the 'another hands up' as if Brown was the only time that has occurred. He thinks that never happens.
Video Shows UNARMED Man With Hands Up Right Before Cops Shoot and Kill Him Oh wait, that guy was white. Here's a black man: New Jersey Cops Shot Man With Hands Up, Get Away With Video Recorded Murder That search took less than a minute. |
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Okay, first things first: Being cryptic is a poor communication strategy. It does not make you look intelligent, it makes it look like you are trying to avoid substantive communication.
What about my comment was hearsay? I can find multiple sources indicating that many police departments are equipped with selective fire rifles. I don't know what the man in question was shot with, I am only arguing what is possible, based on how American municipal police departments are often equipped. |
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