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21st July 2016, 11:57 AM | #201 |
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21st July 2016, 12:00 PM | #202 |
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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21st July 2016, 12:16 PM | #204 |
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Maybe it's time that North Miami got a visit from Black Lives Matter.
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21st July 2016, 12:17 PM | #205 |
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21st July 2016, 12:23 PM | #206 |
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Why? Because it shows the truth, that there are a lot of PPJO's (pistol-packing jerk-offs) in uniform?
Not all police are "bad." Not all civilians are criminals. When the police quit reacting to all civilians as criminals, maybe people will stop treating cops as bad. Might help if they cleaned their own ranks as well. Police are a closed society -- Us vs Them, with Them being anyone not a cop. I've seen it. The closest real-world example is a gang. If they don't want Them coming in to deal with the reportedly few bad apples and incompetents, then it would behoove them to do it themselves. The situation is ridiculous -- even I'm scared of the cops these days, and I normally back them on most everything. They've been militarized and brainwashed into believing they're under assault that their actions have made it a self-confirming prophecy. Beanbag |
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21st July 2016, 12:24 PM | #207 |
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21st July 2016, 12:26 PM | #208 |
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21st July 2016, 12:29 PM | #209 |
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21st July 2016, 12:30 PM | #210 |
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21st July 2016, 12:33 PM | #211 |
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21st July 2016, 12:34 PM | #212 |
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Wait, "Another"? Who was the first? Not still flogging the long since debunked by Obama's DOJ Mike Brown dead horse are you?
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21st July 2016, 12:38 PM | #213 |
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21st July 2016, 12:45 PM | #214 |
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They are not bad they just are the kind of people who will refuse aid to some innocent that their buddy accidentally shot. And make a point of arresting the innocent victim before medical care. Nothing wrong with any of that it is basic policework 101.
Any cop who actually wanted to treat the victim here before going through with the arrest would certainly lose their job, no one would work with a rat like that. |
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21st July 2016, 12:46 PM | #215 |
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21st July 2016, 01:06 PM | #216 |
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21st July 2016, 01:08 PM | #217 |
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21st July 2016, 01:26 PM | #218 |
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This was not an AR-15, it was an M4. Shorter barrel, and the rounds used typically have a lower muzzle velocity to avoid over-penetration and bystander casualties. If they're using the standard ball rounds like the military does, the round can punch straight through the leg, and as long as it doesn't hit a bone it will leave an easily survivable wound. Those rounds do not mushroom out like the hollowpoints typically used in handguns, and shock can often cause the pain response to be lessened greatly. |
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21st July 2016, 01:28 PM | #219 |
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And that black man was shot by a black cop. And the guy wasn't exactly a saint--he had a gun in the car and had previously served 13 years in prison for shooting at cops, which the policeman apparently already knew about.
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Some AR-15 platforms, and probably M4s as well, can be converted to fire 9x19mm pistol ammunition. All the same, even if it was a .223 that's not a guaranteed devastating wound unless it hits bone - if it went in and out hitting nothing but soft tissue then it's not impossible he didn't feel much. Let's remember he's surrounded by cops with assault rifles trained on him, he's not in his normal frame of mind.
I'm open to this being a negligent discharge, but that in no way excuses the handcuffing and denial of medical treatment. And I forget who said it here, but being handcuffed is not a requirement across the board for riding in the back of a squad car. When a truck crashed into my car a few years ago and it got towed, I had no ride home and no money for a cab, so Dallas PD gave me a ride in the back, and I wasn't cuffed. |
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21st July 2016, 01:33 PM | #221 |
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Well if the shooting was intentional, then it was very bad marksmanship. That's why I think it was not intentional.
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21st July 2016, 01:46 PM | #222 |
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21st July 2016, 01:49 PM | #223 |
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Did the caller break the law?
I'd like to know who called the police to report the situation and exactly what was said. I feel it's important to know if someone called saying a man had a gun and was threatening suicide-- and if the caller knew that was false but just wanted to cause trouble?
I wonder if what the caller did was an intentional cruel and wicked act, akin to a hate crime? |
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21st July 2016, 01:53 PM | #224 |
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Then you have a greatly exaggerated view of police marksmanship. There was an incident here a number of years ago where 5 or 6 police officers discharged a dozen round ammunition each at a single target standing in the middle of the road, from close range, with only about a half-dozen hitting him. I can't find the specific news article on it; but I did find this gem: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b093be51bbb978 Police officers do not spend nearly enough time training with their firearms, and some of them are seriously bad shots. |
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21st July 2016, 01:56 PM | #225 |
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It's possible, but it's even more possible that it was just some moron panicking, over-reacting, and exaggerating what they saw in their own mind. I've certainly seen enough of that happen, particularly involving the mentally ill. Not that the former does not happen. In fact, some people even do it as a joke. |
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I always thought this one was pretty good. 9 bystanders injured by cops' bullets. Because shooting in a crowded area makes so much sense. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/woman-su...tate-shooting/
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21st July 2016, 02:15 PM | #229 |
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Don't forget Winston Hayes.
"When 44-year-old drug suspect Winston Hayes' SUV lurched forward he hit a police car, deputies unloaded their weapons, firing 120 shots. Four bullets ended up hitting Hayes who survived, one hit a deputy sheriff, 11 hit patrol cars and 11 hit five homes in the neighborhood (one of them ended up tearing a hole in a homeowner's hat)." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagious_shooting |
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21st July 2016, 02:43 PM | #234 |
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It was probably just a misunderstanding:
"911? There is a man on the corner trying to commit suicide. Can you displace [edited-dispatch] an officer to help him?" |
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21st July 2016, 03:30 PM | #240 |
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Well maybe you can help him explain to his kids what the proper way to act is when dealing the with the police so that they don't get shot for no reason.
Do think he is lying when he says he is in counselling and has no idea what to tell them? Is that not a significant thing to have happened? |
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