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14th October 2018, 12:28 PM | #121 |
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14th October 2018, 10:16 PM | #122 |
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West may not have articulated his reference to the 13th amendment in a way that most people would understand without doing some digging into what he meant. Or, this is something the media could have explained rather than calling him a "token Negro."
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Him mentioning the 13th amendment trap door leading you into a room with the unabomber is fairly easy to track down also, but CNN's commentators was too busy dragging that runaway slave back to the Democrat plantation to be bothered with reporting what the references meant. Ted Kaczynski – a.k.a. the unabomber – is being held at the ADX Florence super max prison along with Larry Hoover, a man many in the black community consider to be a civil rights hero unjustly prosecuted by the government. But, hey, what does any of this matter when a black man goes against Democrat orthodoxy and supports a Republican. |
15th October 2018, 01:32 AM | #123 |
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Wait, didn't he legally change his name to "Ye" or something?
If you caught the last SNL monologue, they talked about him. In particular, Seth said they wanted to do a sketch with West last time he appeared where he was grabbing awards from people giving speeches. West said that he actually does that - and that was a couple of years before the Taylor Swift thing. So I honestly can't say 100% sure the assumption that he was off his meds at the time was true. The guy knew that was something he could and would do - or it gave him the idea to do it. Not at all. As someone here recently said about Rose McGowan - None of this is mutually exclusive. It's possible that : 1) Kanye had something to say 2) Kanye is mentally ill 3) Trump took advantage of him It's possible any or all of the above are true. The unibomber thing was already explained above.
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Trump was all about "let's make america great again" He basically said Trump made him feel proud again. It really isn't that difficult to decipher to be honest. What does this have to do with prison reforms? Nothing really. But that's kind of like the part where you would just shove pointless flattery to the person you're talking to.
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It's normal for HIM. Just like I would say it's not normal for the president of the united states to dismiss a woman saying it's probably her time of the month... But it's normal for Trump. It's like people forget this guy had multiple episodes of Southpark making fun of him over the years. The thing is though, as is always the part with celebrities is that you don't know for sure if his admission is true or not. Celebs have been known to lie in the past and invent all sorts of crap including lying about substance abuse when they were completely sober and even faking mental illness. It's possible he is mentally ill, for sure. But to be honest I'm not sure if anyone can actually tell or not. He isn't as coherent as Tom Cruise babbling off on how dangerous psychiatry is and he is far more coherent than Jaden Smith rambling on about patterns and what not. I don't recall either of those being mentally ill. Again, this has nothing to do with defending Trump. As I said, those things aren't exclusive. It's possible Trump wanted just free publicity or it's possible that Trump wanted to show he has a black supporter or it's possible that Trump wanted to show that even the "good" blacks are crazy Or you know what? It's possible that Trump is so clueless he had no idea who Kanye West is or what's his mental state. And believe me... that last one was not a defense of Trump. |
15th October 2018, 03:56 PM | #124 |
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15th October 2018, 04:23 PM | #125 |
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This is nothing but a load of bollocks trying to defend Trump by 'explaining' what you think West was saying and implying that no one could understand it because we didn't "dig into his past"...but you can.
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15th October 2018, 05:15 PM | #126 |
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15th October 2018, 08:46 PM | #127 |
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Just as I suspected:
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That riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma was nearly impossible to solve, it took like 60 seconds of googling to figure it out. I guess it would've been a lot easier to learn on your own but those "must attack Trump and anyone who doesn't condemn him" blinders were preventing you from doing so. |
15th October 2018, 10:32 PM | #128 |
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I'll concede this one as far as what West may have been alluding to. But the "Unabomber"? You'll have to admit that his method of delivery was very odd and rambling. He hardly paused for a breath between moving from one topic to another often with little logical transition. His rant was still just not normal even leaving Trump visibly uncomfortable and speechless. And that's hard to do.
Those blinders work just as well for the "must defend Trump and all he does" posters. |
16th October 2018, 01:28 AM | #129 |
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No, they are not because you fail to realize that somenoe telling you that Kanye West may or may not actually have a mental illness has nothing to do with Trump.
Trump is a vile human being who I can absolutely see pick a mentally ill person and parade them on national tv for their own agenda or heck I can see him do it just to humiliate them and amuse himself. This isn't defending Trump at all. It also has nothing to do with whether or not West is actually mentally ill. West's monologue seems a bit all over the place, but his intentions do seem clear enough that I can at least understand what he was trying to say. Is he babbling? Sure. But that could be the result intoxication, just being nervous or probably loads of other reasons. Could mental illness be one of them? Absolutely. But it isn't the only one. Comparing his speech to some things celebreties are saying these days then it's practically a master piece. Heck, the guy who plays Kid Flash recently talked about how he identifies as a tree? |
20th October 2018, 10:42 AM | #130 |
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Finally someone actually wrote his arguments. I can understand his position on private prisons, but his talk about the prisoners having 2 choices and that prisoners have a mental illness can be ruled out by psychiatry.
If I can understand at most the lifestyle of the prisoner before he was committed with his childhood followed by influences in the ghetto can make people do crime although many can be associated with mental illness the courts would find these people fit to stand trial. Its the only thing I have wrong with his argument that therapy is the right action or am I out of detail of what he just said? |
21st October 2018, 07:47 AM | #131 |
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Nope, it still makes no sense even with the "explanation," and that's just one line from a 10-minute rant. The whole premise of the meeting would only make sense to a trumper, anyway -- Kanye West has some insight into prison reform because he's black? It's funny watching trumpers try to pretend they don't know that Trump wanted, "Black man supports Trump," but instead got, "Irrational and incoherent man who is only here because he's black supports Trump."
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21st October 2018, 08:06 AM | #132 |
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If Dolt 45 wanted to consider prison reform, he could have started by not tearing out the entire system Obama had put in place working on prison reform, moved to congress for help as needed, and stayed far away from prison-loving bigot Jeff Sessions.
Of course, murderer and Gangsta Disciple head Larry Hoover can stay where he is, and yes, West still sounded like he was having a manic episode. |
21st October 2018, 08:16 AM | #133 |
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