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19th November 2018, 02:53 PM | #1 |
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Being Black in a Lecture...
Another totally not racist incident....
So a black female student is in a lecture and has her feet up on the empty seat in front of her. Does the Professor.... A) Ignore it. B) Ask the student to take her feet off the chair. C) Stop the lecture to demand that the student leave the lecture D) Stop the lecture to yell racist obscenities at the student E) Leave the lecture theatre and call the cops on the student. If you picked "E" congratulations, you're a winner. Of course we can be sure that this totally wasn't racism because the College says so, and of course any white student merely sitting there quietly with their feet on the chair in front of them would of course be removed from the lecture by the police... actually I guess they wouldn't. Hmmm. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b044bbb1aa1031 |
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19th November 2018, 02:55 PM | #2 |
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Yes, but, reasons!
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19th November 2018, 02:58 PM | #3 |
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I'm sure it happened exactly like you said. Student puts feet on a chair and immediately the lecturer calls the cops.
Er, no, the student herself said that:
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19th November 2018, 03:10 PM | #4 |
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This case depends on whether or not she was wearing shoes.
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19th November 2018, 03:12 PM | #5 |
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Huffington Post, manufacturing stories so skeptics can feign outrage since 2005.
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19th November 2018, 04:09 PM | #6 |
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19th November 2018, 04:16 PM | #7 |
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19th November 2018, 04:31 PM | #8 |
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At some point cops need to start arresting the people that needlessly call the police.
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19th November 2018, 04:34 PM | #9 |
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I need more details here.
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19th November 2018, 04:43 PM | #10 |
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It is obvious not a race thing if even the girl in question felt it wasn't.
Stupid as lecturer though should be fined for completely wasting the police's time Side point. Have no idea why they have put a random video of some dumb as, racist, off her face on who knows what, ranting, weirdo chick. Unless that is supposed to get every ones outrage started before reading the boring class story |
19th November 2018, 04:46 PM | #11 |
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19th November 2018, 04:49 PM | #12 |
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19th November 2018, 07:47 PM | #13 |
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The report sounds like a bad blood spat between the teacher and the student. Could've just as easily been a white greaser of the Rebel Without a Cause model.
But something is decidedly wrong with the story. One tweet and the ABC follow up story report that the police showed up the next day and ordered her out. The narrative in the original story is confusing. Not in the original story was the bit about the girl and the professor having some kind of run-in prior to the lounging/rudeness issue. Also a lot of hearsay. Are there really two? three? four? incidents? One of the students says that the teacher showed up one class with a handout on civility and specifically walked it over to the perp. Which day was this? What was the previous dispute about? Was this the same day, then, as they lounging infraction? Or was that on yet another day? And then the lounging infraction day is the day before (or class day before if they don't have that course every day) the cops showed up and stopped her from entering. Sounds like a faculty member who lost control of her class and subsequently her temper. You don't just call the cops on Monday and they respond on Tuesday or Wednesday. They responded and you made arrangements to have them there the next time the class met. I'm betting it was Sarah Huckabee S. doing a guest lecturing gig. We all know how important decorum is in the current administration. Jim Acosta better watch himself! Seriously,... it sounds personal rather than racial. |
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19th November 2018, 08:01 PM | #14 |
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19th November 2018, 08:58 PM | #15 |
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19th November 2018, 09:34 PM | #16 |
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19th November 2018, 10:09 PM | #17 |
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19th November 2018, 11:52 PM | #18 |
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Yes there is. They "aren't using that" because most universities in the US have campus police. Campus police rarely have any crimes to deal with so they are called get involved in quarrels such as this one. I'm shocked the Huffington Post didn't clarify this for its unbiased, skeptical, defintely-not-racist, non-Americans readers.
ATTN all non-Americans: We get it. You want us to know how outraged you are over some perceived act of "racism." The more outraged you are the more "not racist" you are and that makes you a wonderful person. You can stop now. |
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20th November 2018, 12:15 AM | #20 |
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This is definitely one of those stories where we don't know what is really happening. I suspect that the prof has other things going on in her life and that's why she snapped at something so apparently minor, and that the student was advised of the other things and decided it was just a case of poor classroom management rather than racism.
I will say that I spent a lot of my college lectures demonstrating poor posture and little respect for the furnishings around me. |
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20th November 2018, 02:34 AM | #21 |
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20th November 2018, 05:38 AM | #23 |
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Yeah, this. A twitterer says 'Twitter user @FavoritePaigeee has claimed to be the student involved in the incident, writing that, “upon entering class I was told I needed to leave or would be escorted out by officers.” Sounds like there was some background before the feet-up incident.
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20th November 2018, 07:00 AM | #24 |
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20th November 2018, 07:23 AM | #25 |
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What does being American have to do with it? Does being born by the red, white and blue give you different standards by which you judge fairness and normalcy. I agree that the instructor went overboard and should certainly not have involved the police, campus nor city. Civility in the classroom would seem to be an administrative problem, not a criminal or legal one.
Why would someone's nationality prevent one from understanding the social and cultural dynamics involved? And, you might want to note the name of the Forum - the INTERNATIONAL Skeptics Forum. I'm sure there's a nice xenophobic Merkins Only forum who would love your input. |
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20th November 2018, 07:40 AM | #26 |
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We can easily find out if the professor is racist.
Did the professor vote for Trump? Am i doing it right? |
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20th November 2018, 07:45 AM | #27 |
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20th November 2018, 07:50 AM | #28 |
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I have heard of some jurisdiction that start fining people after the first or second non-necessary call. Seems like a good Idea to give everyone a single screw up in some amount of time, a year maybe?
Oh, yeah, the OP. Good be a racist, might just be an ******* or someone having a really really bad day and taking out on the first person that caught their eye. Adam Carollo has some wisdom on this sort of matter. If I were black, I probably think that every time a white person (or most times) was a jerk it was because of racism. If I were white, I'd have no choice but to think they were just jerks sans racism. |
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20th November 2018, 12:00 PM | #30 |
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You might have missed this but for being INTERNATIONAL Skeptics Forum, this place is 90%+ white. INTERNATIONALLY white people make up 8% of the world population. There are many non-American posting here, meaning they reside in countries that are 85-90% or more white.
Even in cyberspace, people on this forum living in white countries prefer to coalesce with other white people. Yet they still feel entitled enough to wave their finger at Americans for some perceived act of "racism." (Just look at Captain Swoop's brilliant commentary) Then there's the pesky fact that the HuffingPost is propaganda for Leftists agitators. Even if things are "technically true" (like 'calling the police,' leaving out it's the Segway riding campus police) the authors leave out pertinent information that would result in someone forming an opinion other than what the HuffPo wanted. Yet INTERNATIONAL Skeptics Forum rarely if ever question the veracity or motivations of these propaganda outlets. PhantonWolf, Captain Swoop fell for the (what I think are) pathetic tactics of the Huffing Post. Huff Post authors bank on their need to feel morally righteous. And it works, even on "skeptics" (cough, cough). The ignorance and hypocrisy on this forum is just mind-boggling. |
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20th November 2018, 12:17 PM | #32 |
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Scientific skepticism ("the skeptical movement") is a Western phenomenon.
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20th November 2018, 04:07 PM | #34 |
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20th November 2018, 05:12 PM | #35 |
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20th November 2018, 07:48 PM | #36 |
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Hilited: More made-up statistics? Same source as your information on No Go Zones? Please show us where there's a record kept on the race of the membership, full or active.
You're simply projecting. YOU may look to hang out with white people and assume because of locations that you are. I can only readily identify the "race" of people who've actually mentioned it in a post. That is a small minority of members. Most others are here because they are/were attracted to the ideas surrounding skepticism and critical thinking. I'd make a poll for you, but everyone would laugh at me. (I can recall posters identifying themselves as black or brown in context in a political or sociological discussion and going "Hmmm, I didn't know that!" I then promptly forgot who they are because I'm forgetful and because I associate people with their avatars and the contents of their posts. I can't remember who my SMS buddies are/were. We no longer come here for the company; there are other media for that.) |
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20th November 2018, 08:01 PM | #37 |
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It is outrageous that the cops were called for this.
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20th November 2018, 11:12 PM | #38 |
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Growing up, I heard stories about a legendary Black substitute teacher. One time a Latino kid had his feet up on a desk, and the teacher knocked them off, commenting, "That's a DESK, not an orange crate."
On a separate occasion, a student asked, "Why're you in such a bad mood, Mr. Williams? Didn't get laid last night?" And his response was: "Yeah, yo bitch mama wuz on her period!" |
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22nd November 2018, 04:37 AM | #39 |
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Self-evident.
Seriously, you have got to be feigning ignorance. You can't claim to be a skeptic who "cares about the truth" then claim the userbase here isn't around 90% white. The user base is the Anglosphere and Western Europe. And besides, it's only white people who concern themselves with the type of nonsense that gets discussed here. I've seen footage of those TAM meetings at South Point. It was virtually all white and the "diversity" was an Asian girl dancing around |
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