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1st February 2019, 03:17 PM | #1 |
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Governor Northam in Blackfacde or KKK gear
Looks like Virginia Governor Northam's yearbook has a picture of him in either a KKK outfit or in blackface.
Wonder how this escaped notice through all these elections? https://twitter.com/virginianpilot/s...44446183477248 |
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1st February 2019, 03:29 PM | #2 |
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Is this the guy that's also in favor of abortions up through the start of the fourth trimester?
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1st February 2019, 03:32 PM | #3 |
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Virginia Governor Yearbook Picture Blackface/KKK
A photograph on Gov. Ralph Northam (D)’s medical school yearbook page shows a man wearing blackface next to another person in a Ku Klux Klan robe.
The image is in a 1984 yearbook from Eastern Virginia Medical School on a page with other photos of Northam and personal information about the future governor. Northam, a pediatric neurologist, graduated from the Norfolk medical school in 1984 after earlier graduating from Virginia Military Institute. Chalk it up to youthful indiscretions.... Left's whipping boys Justice Kavanaugh and Covington catholic didn't get that benefit of the doubt. |
1st February 2019, 03:38 PM | #4 |
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So you equate attempted rape, lying under oath in a SCOTUS confirmation hearing, and having a drinking problem with dressing up in an insensitive costume in the 80s?
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1st February 2019, 03:44 PM | #5 |
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Mmm, I love me some Rule of So!
"Alleged" Skeptic Ginger, remember. Kavanaugh? Allegedly in high school. The governor? Medical School graduate. By the way, I was literally jonesing for someone to bring up the drinking thing... From the good governor's Medical Yearbook: "there are more old drunks than old doctor's in this world, so I think I'll have another beer." Sounds like a drinking problem Skeptic Ginger! Oh baby i knew that was going to be glorious! |
1st February 2019, 03:45 PM | #6 |
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Wow. Not just blackface either, but the whole minstrel-show "dandy" kit and kaboodle. And in 1984, no less.
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1st February 2019, 03:48 PM | #7 |
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this can't end well
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1st February 2019, 03:50 PM | #8 |
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Governor Northeim has some 'splanin to do.....
What gets to me in that in 1984 anybody though this was somehow funny and amusing. |
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1st February 2019, 03:51 PM | #9 |
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At least he can always learn to code.
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1st February 2019, 03:53 PM | #11 |
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1st February 2019, 03:53 PM | #12 |
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The best thing he could do is just come clean and say "Hey I was Young, I was Stupid, it was an attempt at humor that was really badly thought out".
Which I think is what probably happened. |
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1st February 2019, 03:55 PM | #13 |
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1st February 2019, 03:56 PM | #14 |
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1st February 2019, 03:58 PM | #15 |
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That is a little strong. I don't think making a fool of yourself in a failed attempt on humor..which is what this almost certainly was..should wreck a man's career.
Of course he needs to apologize and explain,but if we kicked everybody who did something really stupid when in college out we would have no one left to hold office. |
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1st February 2019, 04:01 PM | #17 |
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He was still young;and med school students have a long history of doing stupid stunts and pranks. The old swipe a arm from a dissection clase, put a dollar bill in the fist, and then use it to pay a toll at a bridge or highway, and drive away quickly leaving the arm with the toll booth person is a classic.
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1st February 2019, 04:08 PM | #18 |
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Thread about this in the social issues thread, suggest merger..
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1st February 2019, 04:11 PM | #19 |
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I think it can, depending on the circumstances. And I think this is one of those circumstances. Northam doesn't have just any job, he's the executive leader of his state, and I don't see how he can continue to hold the confidence of his constituency when it has been revealed that he feels 20% of them are acceptable targets for racial mockery.
Because that's the thing about blackface - it isn't intended to make a fool of the person wearing it. |
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1st February 2019, 04:30 PM | #20 |
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If this was just a couple of years ago I would agree with you, but this happened over 30 years ago.
And,yes, that makes a big difference in my book. |
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1st February 2019, 04:38 PM | #21 |
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It doesn't to me; blackface was already considered racist in 1984. And the fact that one of the persons is dressed in a Klan outfit hammers home that the racism aspect of the blackface costume is a conscious and deliberate one.
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1st February 2019, 04:40 PM | #22 |
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1st February 2019, 04:47 PM | #23 |
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Virginia republicans are asking him to step down. They can rent out a convention center and have all the seats, because by that standard they all have to go. And any Dolt 45 supporter can go and join them - you don't get to denounce racist costumes now after years of supporting white supremacist policies, the latter is still much worse than the former.
Now, whether he's in the Klan robes or the Step N Fetchit gear, neither was good even back then. I'll wait to see what the Virginia governor has to say about this, but it doesn't look good. ETA: Oh, he went at Kavanaugh and the Covington kids. Of course, only TBD would take an easy one and completely lose. Kavanaugh is still a creep, the covingtin boys were still wearing the equivalent of the Klan robes last week. Have a seat, TBD, you just disqualified yourself. |
1st February 2019, 05:03 PM | #24 |
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I don't care if he admits it is him I will never admit to believing it and will fight whoever wants to come at me until we both die on this hill.
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1st February 2019, 05:05 PM | #25 |
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The best he could do is to have had this come out a decade or more ago, and him being able to say "I apologized then, and I will never stop apologizing both through my words and my record since then", actually.
I'm, thinking, of course, of Robert Byrd's one-time Klan membership, compared to his late-life record. But if he resigns, I'm okay with that, too. |
1st February 2019, 05:17 PM | #26 |
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He confirms it is him.
Not that I care. #NorthamWasFramed |
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1st February 2019, 05:22 PM | #27 |
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I think he should offer to resign if Kavanaugh will too.
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1st February 2019, 05:30 PM | #28 |
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Crapulent behavior, that reveals a crapulent personality. Of course he should resign. And no, it shouldn't be conditional on the actions of other people, whether they were more or less crapulent than he. What kind of ethics do people have, that misdeeds are considered on a sliding scale relative to the misdeeds of others? Democrat, Republican, or Standing In The Back Dressed Stupidly And Looking Stupid Party, he should resign. You don't excuse the cat turd in your punchbowl on the grounds that there are dog turds in there also!
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1st February 2019, 05:45 PM | #29 |
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I think there is a difference between a stupid attempt at outrageous humor and joining an organization with a long history of violence.
I think this is going to turn out to be like when Princy went to a masquerade party as a Nazi....the kind of stupid attempt to be funny and outrageous that a lot of people do when young. |
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1st February 2019, 05:47 PM | #31 |
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1st February 2019, 05:51 PM | #32 |
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Ouch. Strike 2. This does change things. We are now seeing a pattern, rather then just a stupid prank.
And VMI's history just makes it's worse. Stonewall Jackson is buried there..... The GOPers are enjoying this,of course. But with the Dems this is a rarity, with the GOP discovering bigotry in it's members is a daily occurance. |
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1st February 2019, 06:00 PM | #33 |
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1st February 2019, 06:06 PM | #35 |
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Thirty five years ago, sure. Who wasn't a bit of an ******* in their twenties? The difference is whether you mature out of it and look back on those days with a cringing regret, or double down and end up sobbing about how much you like beer.
The point of the tribalism argument is that it's useless trying to convince the other side of anything. And, in fact, people were quite delighted with the rapist because he was the enemy of the other tribe. |
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1st February 2019, 06:14 PM | #37 |
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Heh.
Remember when the Dems railroaded Franken, in some devil's bargain to convince Moore to withdraw? Only, nobody besides the Dems actually signed onto the bargain? So now you've got a guy who actually should step down, but he won't because the GOP "reneged" on the Franken "bargain", so why bother, right? |
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1st February 2019, 06:15 PM | #39 |
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Let's get serious. The Governor didn't rape anyone. He didnt commit a crime. He did something very distasteful not last year. Not 5 years ago. Not 10 years ago. Not even 20 years ago. But more than 30 years ago.
He apologized. That's good for me. But if you want to vote against him for that, be my guest. |
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