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I did these by hand yesterday, but here's a link to the wikipedia table.
Maybe you could clarify your point since the numbers don't seem to help. What are you saying here? What exactly is "minute" by comparison to what other thing and what are the exact consequences of that minute-ness? Is the US FUBAR too? We have relatively few large cities by your measurement and our population is much less urban than that of other countries. Or are you saying that Stockholm is the key to Sweden, and that when it "decays" population-wise then they are "screwed?" I'm really not understanding your point. |
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2nd August 2019, 06:28 AM | #86 |
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The U.S. was about 11% minority in 1960, the majority of which were African American. Seems rather more diverse than the other regions you mention.
Don't get me wrong. I don't find it a great sin that The Andy Griffith Show didn't reflect that diversity. They were a product of their times and the notion of racial diversity in television was simply not entertained. That's a shame, but I can live with it. But I'd wager that while there were a lot of all-white towns in the US in the 60s, this was a product of racism and explicit segregation, not the fact that the US is white majority. |
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No it wouldn't. You only get that if you compare Australian metropolitan areas to US cities (apples to oranges). If you compare Australian metropolitan areas to US metropolitan areas (apples to apples), then the results look quote a bit different.
According to Wikipedia, Sydney has an area of 12,368 km2 and a population of about 5.2 million people. The city of Los Angeles proper has a population just below 4 million, but it has an area of only 1,300 km2. Los Angeles metropolitan area has an area of 12,562 km2, so it's very comparable, but it's got a population of over 13 million. So that's more than twice the density. If you actually compare apples to apples, then Sydney and Melbourne would come in at numbers 10 and 11. on the list of combined US and Australian metro areas. |
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Thank you for the clarification. I was multi tasking and didn’t double check how the city vs metro was defined.
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You are arguing against yourself. Africa, China and India are parts of the world with many different ethnic, religious and linguistic groups... much like America.
Take China for example: you have plenty of different religious groups, including most prominently Muslims (who used to be far more prominent politically before the communists took over), Buddhists (of different traditions) and people who follow Confucian teachings and other folk beliefs. Hell China was even ruled by a non-Han Chinese dynasty for hundreds of years. Chinese nationalists have sought, since before the 20th century, to subsume all of these different groups under the label of "Chinese" but reality is far more complex than that. |
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Very good article blaming both sides for the problems in Baltimore:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/m...edy-crime.html |
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According to the Alesina list of ethnic diversity, the US has a fractional index of 0.490100, while Canada has a fractional index of 0.712400. The closer the number is to 1, the more ethnically diverse the country. So Canada is more ethnically diverse than the US.
If "ethnicity" doesn't cut it, and you want to separate it in to "white people" and "people who aren't white", then 76.5% of the US population is white, while 72.5% of the population of Canada is white. So on that score they are more or less the same. While Canada is sparsely populated if you go by total area, the truth is that it's highly urbanised, with 80% of its population living in large to medium cities (defined as having a population of 100,000 or more). 40% of US citizens live in cities with a population of 50,000 or more. I can't find a breakdown to make the two figures directly comparable, but it's clear that a much larger percentage of the Canadian population lives in medium or large cities. Yet the murder rate per 100,000 people per year in the US is 5.3, whereas in Canada it's 1.8. I feel that any hypothesis that attempts to explain the high murder rate in the US as being due to ethnic diversity or urbanisation will have to explain this, as well as my earlier post which demonstrated that a higher percentage of black people in a population also didn't predict a higher murder rate. |
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Realistically don't expect there are going to be any explanations offered. Just the usual right wing memes and come backs. Example: I highlighted and Googled some of the statements in the OP. It led me to a Twitter discussion from 2018 started by Steve Sailer. The OP took part in that exchange.
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Leftists blame societies ills on rural rednecks. Is that racist? Being a "progressive" is just knowing who to hate. If you blame the wrong groups you're "racist". If you blame the right groups you're "progressive".
America was roughly 90% white in the 50s and 60s. Mayberry represented small-town USA at the time. There were probably many towns like Mayberry. Were there trust issues between the police and the communities they served? No. There aren't many small towns or cities left that have escaped the contagion from the Left. But if I had to name one, Provo, Utah. That's right. Talking to infidels and heretics is a no-no. It is best to not engage. If by both sides you mean white Democrats and black Democrats, then yeah. Baltimore is a one-party city and has been dominated by Democrats for decades. There hasn't been a Republican mayor since the 1960s. Republicans are lucky to get 10-15% of the vote in any election in that city. Baltimore is an indication of what happens to cities when elected officials no longer worry about competition from Republicans. There might be cities where Democrats dominate, but if they screw-up too much the people might elect a Republican. This was the case with NYC in 1994, where the heavily Democratic city did not elect another Democrat as mayor for 20 years! But if a city has passed that tipping point, like Baltimore, it doesn't matter how bad the city gets, the populace will simply never, ever vote majority Republican. |
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Careful now. Captain Howdy gave me a big laughing dog for saying this! No actual facts or content in reply, mind you, just that dodge.
The facts are that the very basis on which Baylor and the like claim that diversity = societal dysfunction, is fundamentally flawed. If there were any truth to it, the places that are even more diverse, such as Canada, would have even more societal problems than the USA. The fact they do not lays those flaws bare. You don't get Baltimore from diversity and inclusiveness, you get Baltimore from the conditions of entrenched discrimination, and disenfranchisement of groups based on their ethnicity and culture... and you get those conditions predominantly from the attitudes of racists from the ranks of white nationalists, white supremacists and the far right of the political and social spectrum. |
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Background: Kimberly Klacik, Baltimore and Trump
It was Kimberly Klacik, a black conservative, that has brought the recent attention to the city of Baltimore. She heard Elijah Cummings say on ABC's This Week that members of his district are scared of Trump. She thought that with all the issues in Baltimore how could they be afraid of Trump. She decided to go to Baltimore to find out. She took a tour of west Baltimore and found trash piled up everywhere, rats, needles and other types of waste. Fox and Friends aired her video and this is what prompted Trump's tweets of Elijah Cummings and Baltimore.
Apparently the trash had not been picked up since December of 2018! Baltimore residents call 311 if trash needs to be cleared out. The residents of this neighborhood had been doing this for months, but because the city is so dysfunctional nothing happened. Kimberly Klacik tweets: "The President saw my work. This just made my day ." Kimberly Klacik tweets: "Let's continue to expose the truth. This is a neighborhood filled w/families that have small children. West Baltimore is filled with trash thanks to dumping. A problem city officials should have addressed years ago. This is @RepCummings district. @realDonaldTrump " Kimberly Klacik tweets: "As you can see, West Baltimore residents care about their homes. Residents constantly call the city to report illegal dumping, cries fall on deaf ears. Many point out this would never happen at the Baltimore Inner Harbor. I agree." Kimberly noted that whenever the City Council voted to remove Confederate statues it was done within a day. So why couldn't they clean up garbage that had been sitting around for months? The leaders of Baltimore seem more concerned with destroying heritage than in cleaning up their city. The good news is that there is now a private contractor that has gone in to clean up the garbage that has been sitting around for months. Note: The longer a city, state or county is governed by the Democratic Left the more closely it will resemble a garbage dump. So black conservatives and white conservatives work together to address and solve real problems. Black liberals and white liberals get together to scream RACIST! This is politics in the current year. |
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You can't even get the name of the ISF member right, so how exactly is anyone suppose to take you seriously?
As for the "dodge" that wasn't. I am well-aware of skeptics trying to use me as Google in order to play some stupid "gotcha." Not interested. As for the "USA is 77% white!" I've been down this road many times with skeptics and have no interest in having this conversation with 67 year old men. When it's convenient for skeptics, there are less than 200 million white people in the US. Information Analyst tried to get the white homicide rate as high as he could, so the US was about 60% white. Now Canadians are trying to pin US problems on white people, then there are suddenly an extra 70,000,000 white people in the US. Not a game I'm interested in playing. I'll let the 50+ year old white non-Americans play this stupid game. |
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