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Bob is on the left. Bob is talking to Kathy. Bob is by the fax machine. (Is that last on ageist?)
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The worst is my mother. She can't tell a story about anyone without commenting on their heritage. In fact, if their heritage is complex she never even gets to the story.
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I worked with a guy who had a somewhat common name. I was at a function and someone asked me if I knew someone of that name and I answered that I did and he was very good at topic X. The person agreed that they were expert at topic X and then clarified that the guy they were talking about was morbidly obese. Oh, no, the guy I work with is a huge health nut. Different guy. Later I found out we were talking about the same person. He was once morbidly obese and he was now a health nut. If we had stayed away form the physical description we would have known we were talking about the same person, because his field of expertise was pretty niche. But, because we relied too much on the physical description we ended up wrong. |
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To the old guys in that office we were all "the kids". That didn't bother her, just when they singled her out by gender. Girl, young lady, young woman, etc. She was an engineer with an overpriced degree and student loans to pay. She just moved through it until she could move on. But once she told me about it I started noticing it and it sort of stuck with me.
Another person I worked with about a year later was very skinny and the overweight middle aged folks in the office that were jealous would often comment on that. What they didn't know is that their coworker had massive gastrointestinal issues that meant they really couldn't gain weight, not matter how much they wanted to and they hated being called skinny or being reminded of the fact that they could not put on weight. Over time you have enough of these experiences and you realize that very innocent comments about other people's physical attributes are not always innocent to them. They don't want to be known as the skinny one, or the female one, or the black one, or the bald one. They just want to be known or not known, move on. In a professional setting this shouldn't be a huge ask. But again, that is off topic because the OP is about soccer, not a professional sport. |
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Classic American inferiority complex regarding the world's most popular sport by at least an order of magnitude. No matter how much marketing money is spent or how much commercial media around the world would love it become popular, the world keeps rejecting American "football".
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Fair enough; it just seemed an odd way to have a dig at football, since it plainly is a professional sport (3 of the 5 highest paid athletes in 2020 are football players, apparently). Second rate is a matter of opinion, of course.
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If there are two people standing there, you card one of them, and the person recording it says "which one" I am likely to say "the black one" or "the white one" because I tend to adopt other people's speech habits when talking to them. I am also likely to use the word "guy" in place of "one."
I think in this case the "one" represents a choice of players. Not racist at all. |
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The Guardian's Football Weekly podcast addressed the issue today, with a black former footballer trying to explain why it was so terrible. Nobody else seemed very convinced, and the commenters (unbelievably, the Guardian opened comments on this article) weren't on board either.
When you've lost the Grauniad readers on an issue of racism, you must be really over the top. |
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OK.. It's too much. The suspense is killing me.
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I would think it's fine to use any descriptor that isn't considered offensive. I don't really see 'black' as offensive, although adding 'one' at the end doesn't help. Seems like a stretch in most settings to actively avoid using it though.
It can also be true that adding that in when it isn't necessary isn't a good look.. |
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It's just one of those witch hunts (more and more often seen lately) made possible by the current brand of 'progressivism' and the culture of victimization it creates. Coltescu, the referee, may have broken some UEFA rules - he should have used English or chose other words in Romanian to identify the official of the Turkish side to avoid possible problems - but it is patently absurd to accuse him of racism. As a Romanian I can certify that the Romanian word for black is 'negru' , the real problem is way less him than the widespread culture of victimization among minorities and the never-ending multiplication of 'racism' , even minor things are 'racism' these days. Finally to claim that identifying a black guy among a group of whites as 'the black one' (what the referee said in Romanian) is racism is absurd, we do this naturally many times in similar situations, if this is 'racism' then everything we say to a black person is racism. |
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