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3rd August 2021, 09:05 PM | #41 |
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3rd August 2021, 09:11 PM | #43 |
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Yes. You did not, as we shall soon see.
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1) You were arguing with Warp12 about there being only one, and not plural 'photos'. Now you are arguing for plural? As the school used the plural, but we are shown only one, perhaps the Doc forgot to mention that there were others? (he also said he took them down, plural) 2) Scrolling through his feed, there is a pic of him and his wife embracing while looking at their reflection on a mirrored ceiling. Funny, if the issue was their salt and pepper couplehood, that there was no mention or objection to that? 3) The article said there was one parent who lodged the objection. One. Do you still feel confident that this can only be attributed to racism, as opposed to one somewhat prudish parent who found the pic a tad too racy? 4) Everyone says they were kissing. You, too. Does no one here know what a kiss is? He is leaning in, and she backing up a little. They are not even touching.
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No, smartcooky. I actually live in the US, working and playing with real 21st century black people in racially diverse New Jersey. If you laid this 'white people do this, black people do that' tripe on a brother, he would call your punk ass out for being blatantly racist. When I see one of these stories, I look at the available evidence. In the absence of declared or obvious motivation, I ask 'what motivates people, in my experience?' Here, since they voted the man as principal, and presumably knew his marital status, the most likely answer is the mild raciness of the lone pic. They appeared not at all to object to others of his wife and kids, so racism should be provisionally ruled out. You, on the other hand, can only see their races, and project a racist narrative, and won't even consider that it could be something else.
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3rd August 2021, 09:30 PM | #44 |
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3rd August 2021, 10:55 PM | #48 |
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He has a personal life. Pearl-clutching parents I think are just flailing. This is high school. Your kids are in similar poses in the homecoming dance and prom.
Or maybe he reminds them of a 'rapper' or something. |
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Tough luck.
I want someone to run the school. And have the brains to not post commercial pics which make my kids think he is an idiot. It is the same reason I would'nt want my kids female teachers with open Facebook or Instagram profiles hanging out in bikinis. Chose another job. Obviously you disagree. |
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I have to say that being a Nordic and reading about social issues and debates in the US makes one quite disoriented. I think basically a nude picture of a principal if tasteful and no genitals visible would be fine in Finland - and if it would be about sauna and a swim in the summer cottage it could be quite unsensored. The anglosaxon prudishness is sometimes so weird.
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3rd August 2021, 11:47 PM | #53 |
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Whitford is eminently qualified to be a school principal
So, and stay with me here, posting a personal photo, taken by a professional, family photographer, on his personal Facebook page of him kissing his wife, is making his students think he's a idiot? 'K. Whatever You bet. In his position, I would tell the nosey bastards to **** right off and take their bigotry with them! |
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If that photo is considered erotic or sensual in the US you guys are way more repressed than I thought.
The only thing surprising to me as a dutch viewer is how young the guy is. Most dutch school principals are over 50 or so. |
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Bearing in mind it just seems to be a dude having a fit for having to not make a sleazy commercial photo available to his students as his ego and swhose self love is a bit uber, the whole thread seems odd.
Who cares? there are heaps od mirrors in your schools toilets. |
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Nope. You're making stuff up! It was one of a number of photos taken for their wedding anniversary, by a professional photographer. As someone who has owned a photolab for 27 years, and has worked as a professional photographer, and who employs a part time professional photographer on my staff, I can speak with authority, and I can tell you that I recognise the style, and that I have seen literally thousands of photos just like that one. What topless images? Did he post topless images of him or his wife? Pictures or it didn't happen |
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But fair enough. I get you don't think a principal has to show bit of professionalism and avoiding posting plasticky crap on open pages.
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True. We're still amused by the utter prudishness of many in the USA for whom the hint of a nipple is outrageous but battlefield weaponry is entirely normal.
Having said that, my daughter's Spanish teacher did leave her job quite rapidly a couple of years ago after some of her students discovered her semi-anonymous account on an online service. Even this broad-minded 50-something was quite taken aback, obviously after having studied the images for quite some time on a good quality screen. |
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This is ust weird.
Either it's completely racist or there's a bizarre expectation that educators be chaste. Both of which are unacceptable. Newsflash one: Mixed race couples exist. Deal with it or be left behind like the racist git you are. Newsflash two: Teachers, like almost everyone else, ****. |
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4th August 2021, 03:33 AM | #66 |
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You're a bad girl!
Still you avoid the obvious and repeated fact that the other photos might have been the problem rather than that one. You mean as opposed to the bloke who's screeching "RACISM!" on the evidence of an unknown number of unseen photos? Or, there are other photos that might actually be somewhat offensive. |
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Or he's an alien from the planet Spod and his wife is a podperson? Seriously, if you're just going to make **** up we may as well make the discussion more entertaining. Until somone produces 'somewhat offensive' photos (Becuase that's what people put on facebook, my feed is full of folks posting pictures of themselves *******. Oh, wait. No, it isn't.) then your argument is just so much hot air. |
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It's ironic that, on the new posts page right at the moment, a thread arguing whether photos of a man suggestive of the fact that he has a sexual relationship with his wife are offensive is directly above one arguing whether overtly sexualised outfits for sportswomen are completely OK. There seems to be more than the faintest hint of a double standard.
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Yahoo news currently has up an article from People magazine which has more details about this -- and which includes what looks like the a screen shot of the Facebook page in question.
The graphic posted at the top of the People article gives a much more complete view of the picture than the image of that picture included in the opening post of this thread. The OP image is apparently only a fraction of the picture being talked about (about 1/6 of it, I'd estimate), focused on their heads; the full picture shows their complete selves and a good portion of the beach as well. (I'd call it romantic rather than erotic when seen in full, but that's simply my opinion and other people might see it differently.) In addition, the People image of the page is large enough to display several more of the pictures sharing the Facebook page with that one. I'd recommend that people interested in discussing this story click the link to view the People article. The People article also includes some additional details about criticisms and attacks Whitfield says that some people in the district had been making on him prior to the Facebook picture incident:
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Gee I'm surprised to see the usual people on the usual side of the discussion.
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And in Québec.
Seriously, Americans are so ridiculously prudish... or that's what I would say if America wasn't such a leading producer of porn. Nah, even back in the day you'd have pictures of men and women about to kiss or kissing on movie posters and the like. But then, they were both white. No issue. |
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Wait…. What? People are upset about a picture that appears on his Facebook page? I mean, if he decided to use that picture as his profile picture on the school website then, yeah, you could say “not really appropriate!” But this is his personal Facebook picture? Wow! Some people need to wind their necks in!
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Could you elaborate on this?
How is an "overtly sexual" American identified and what training do they receive? Is there a data base for the above, especially females (asking for a friend)? Why are only "overtly sexual" Americans chosen to receive this training? Exactly how are they trained to "view" black people? |
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