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Based on? I'm genuinely curious what makes these pictures so "erotic"? He's wearing full length pants, she's wearing a full outfit. They aren't even kissing, she appears to be gazing off in the distance.
Does this photo really turn people on? Like, for real? I am just not seeing it. I think, for lack of better words, it's adorable. Mostly because they're both willing to put up with that ******** sand long enough to get the pics taken. Erotic? No. No way. |
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There are other photos of them with their spouse on their facebook page.
I agree with Thermal, that the photo in question is being challenged more due to the sex-laden connotation of the pose than to the races of the people featured therein. People who think the complaint can be nothing other than racism are people who will always see racism no matter what. |
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Incidentally, I think the professional photographer did a great job of making them look good in the photo on the beach. You can see the other photos on his FB. Not a bad looking dude, and not a bad looking wife, but the photographer really earned his money that day.
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The photos look mildly suggestive, to me. But, that's irrelevant if they're not posted on an official school site.
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And THAT is probably what it boils down to more than anything. If it were an unattractive couple (the stereotype of what we think of when we think of a principal) there probably wouldn't be any issue at all. It's the fact that people here, and in this principal's community, find them attractive that makes this picture "erotic". It's not, there's no erotic behavior, unless I'm grossly misinformed on what is considered erotic.
In fact, I would be more prone to feel that they're being discriminated against for being attractive more than racism. |
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Had you read the thread, I consider many possibilities to be on the table. I Lea towards a lone prude Karen as the lead contender.
But the thread shrieks "Racist!" in chorus. Your first comment was from Blazing Saddles, yes? As you well know, it's the starting and unevidenced assumption of racism I rail against.
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Are you trying to tell me that the media might have a narrative? You mean that some of the critical thinkers here never considered such a possibility? Could some of them be guilty of promoting a narrative, themselves? Outrageous!
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Nice to see you be PWND by the actual photos shortly after that post.
The guy is kissing his wife while lying between her legs, but it's the fact he's black that caused the complaint. Yeah, right. Well done! The pic wouldn't bother me in the least, but I can definitely see how some puritanical Yank would think so. Not a lot of comment from those who were going purple in the face screaming racism a page or two back. It is relevant, though. Every employer nowadays has clauses in the employment contract about personal social media conduct that might reflect badly on the employer, and I can certainly see those pics coming under that. |
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You've put WAY more thought into that first post than I did. I didn't intend on any of that to be read into the post, so thank you for reading my mind for me. That's awesome.
I don't care about your personal relationships at all. I'm not the one bringing them up, you are, repeatedly. Almost every time you think it supports a point you're trying to make. If you'd stop bringing them up, I'd stop commenting on them. Also, I'm not going to try and "out black friend" you. Why? Because they aren't all the same. Just like with everyone their reactions, and views on topics differ based on their experiences, geographical location, education and the list goes on. I can say I've never had my "chops busted for not using the n word". Again though, this is just more in a long line of you hanging out, meeting, and bringing up your personal relationships as if it were to mean something. I've never, ever heard a black man say, "Bro, just call me the n-word. It's fine. I'm fine with it, and am a little bothered you AREN'T calling me the n-word. That's dumb." So they do have a vested interest in keeping the relationship between you two on good terms due to the fact you work side-by-side regularly. Ok then, I think we're done here. |
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Dood, I don't take photos with my mom, and I certainly don't kiss her. The actual **** ? I don't take photos in general. The fact you guys can't see this picture as anything other than "he 'bout to smash that yo", is so funny. You all still high five each other when making dick and fart jokes too? Talk about how your bros are "gonna wreck a twelver and chase some tang to till the morn?!" LoL. Awesome, you guys are awesome. Keep rocking this "dude bro" style. Seriously, don't change, it's ******* dope.
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I don't personally think it's a big deal, but looking at the full photos, they are certainly sexually suggestive. Set them to private so they're not out there for the whole world to see, no problem.
Like I said, I don't think it's all that big a deal... but I can also understand how "sexy and erotic" should perhaps not be openly combined with "school official". Anyway, there are other pictures of them and their spouse on their facebook page, including ones with their kid and diverse family. Given that none of those were complained about, and none of those have been removed, I think the immediate claim of "OMG RACISM" is hyperbolic partisan bollocks. |
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That's not remotely what I'm saying. On the other hand, I also generally think that people's sexual interactions shouldn't be shared with the public.
There's a difference between understanding and accepting that grown ups have sex... and sharing sexually suggestive pictures of said grown ups with the entire world when one is in a position of authority in a high school. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a distancing in public portrayal between "principle" and "sex". |
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*slowly and clearly*
I didn't ask you about taking photos. I asked you if you kiss your mother or your friends like that. I asked this because of your feigned confusion about how anyone could take that pose sexually. It very very very clearly is sexual. And seriously, "brah" and "bros" is worthy of a paragraph of ridicule to you? I'm a surfer, and we have used those terms as informal forms of address literally since before you were born and continue today. If you're pulling the "you young kids these days" card, I have some very bad news for you. |
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Why? The whole world has been seeing them for quite some time and, as has been pointed out here repeatedly, no one has seemed to have an issue until *checks notes* one, individual female had a problem.
The saying goes, if you're looking to get offended, you'll find something. "Sexy and erotic" is completely suggestive. You, Emily's Cat, are viewing it that way. I, plague311, see a man enjoying a vacation with his wife. He's not between her legs, they're both fully clothed, they aren't making out, and they aren't grinding on each other. It's a picture of them on a beach. Already been addressed. Read the thread. |
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Oh, I'm sure brah. I'm sure dem hoez be bangin' and crushin' to get a piece of dat delta. *high five* *Beer shotgun* *Passes the icehole* *Rick Flair Wooo*
They might be suggestive to someone who's really deprived, or likes to hump legs, or can't see a picture of a man and a woman together without thinking "they 'bout to be bangin'". Maybe to someone like that. |
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*slowly and clearly*
I don't kiss my mom or my friends....so. I find it odd that anyone does. I don't kiss my wife either. I don't like people touching me or touching people, so I'm not the person to ask here. Just because you think it's clearly sexual means nothing to me. I don't find it sexual. I find it to be a pose for a camera on a vacation. If you guys find it sexual, then you get to join the Karen lady. It's worthy of a defensive paragraph from you, apparently. I wasn't implying it was young. I was mocking people that use phrases referring to garbage trucks, and whatever other childish phrases were uttered, to refer to this picture. |
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What pictures are you looking at, plague? Because several of the ones I saw he WAS between her legs, he's only partially clothed, and in one of them he's kissing her neck.
It's not pornography by any means. But how you can frame those pictures as being "just enjoying a vacation at the beach" and not at all sexually suggestive is baffling. |
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I didn't go thumbing through all of the pictures. I am commenting on the ones that have been shared here, as I was under the impression it was those pictures that were inducing the whining.
If there are more, then they should have been included in the information provided. Every picture I've seen he has had a shirt and pants on. That's clothed in my world. It's actually the definition of clothed in my word. It's the clothes I'm wearing now! Personally, I don't view it as sexual. Maybe I have a high bar. Maybe I just don't go looking for it. Link me to the photos you're looking at, maybe I'll change my mind. None of the ones I've seen right now are sexual, and I think it's extremely prudish for people to think it is, but that's how opinions work I don't speak your language, so maybe you and Thermal can throw me a decoder ring. My wife isn't a fan either, that's why we work as a couple...for a decade now. |
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You're not alone in this. I kiss my mom, because they have been kissing me since I was a kid, and at this point I've just given up. I will kiss my spouse on the lips, but only with closed lips. Tongues and mouths are gross. I've become resilient to hugs among friends, but I only hug those people to whom hugs are clearly important, and only if they're people I care very much about, and even then I don't like it. I detest being touched by coworkers, even the "hand on shoulder" thing that other people seem to think builds camaraderie. All it does is creep me out.
I'd be full on "no touchy" if I had my druthers. |
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When I kiss my mother, my lips actually touch her face. (Unlike our principal in the photo.) Also, I usually have my arms around her at the time. (Unlike our principal in the photo).
I sure hope no one's ever taken a picture of it, or else I'll be facing obscenity charges for sure! |
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You're right - they do have a shirt on. My bad.
I still contend that the male in question posed between their spouse's legs while reclined on the beach, with the female's head arched back and the male nuzzling their neck is hard to see as not being sexually suggestive. Note the "suggestive" part of that. Like I said, it's not porn, but it is suggestive. It's a sexy photo. That isn't a problem by any means. And I don't personally find it troublesome. But I can understand that some parents and school administrators might prefer to keep a broader gap between the professionalism of the principal and the sexuality and sexiness of that principal, given that they have authority over children. Look at it this way: I don't have an objection to people having posters of swimsuit models on their walls. But I do think that it would be inappropriate for a teacher to have a swimsuit model on the wall of their classroom. And I can understand that some parents might object to a teacher having pictures of swimsuit models plastered over their public social media, given that the teacher has authority over their children. Really though, this is all a matter of opinion, and rather irrelevant. The main take-away here is that I can see no reason at all to assume that the reason for objection to that set of photos has any basis in racism rather than in prudery. We can argue ourselves blue about how much prudery is too much... but that still doesn't transform prudery into racism. |
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Ok, this is getting complicated. See, most of us do kiss our spouses, and even more. We have a special hug we do, that looks remarkably like the FB picture in question, so we recognize the similarity and implication of the pose. Have you ever seen other people do that, who were not in what we call a sexual relationship, or about to enter one poste haste?
Tell you what, I'll find my anatomical dolls and we'll continue this on Skype. Maybe I can get that flirty woman from the next street over to help with the visuals. And yet again, I and others here don't have an issue with the pic. But we can see how others might.
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