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Thank you for literally proving my point. I couldn't have asked for a better example. You even fit a few emojis in to top it off!
Of course you don't have any evidence that he was teaching CRT. He's not a teacher, and it's not taught anywhere in the school. So we know that's out. It can't be because of the pictures, as Thermal stated they've been taken down and it's going on 2 years ago. They aren't saying it's because of job performance as they distinctly said it was a "personal matter". So again, just post your ******* one-liner, top it off with some emojis, and prove my point a little more because seriously, you have nothing else. Thanks. |
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Whatever you say, bro. Great investigative work on your part, btw. Sounds like you really got to the bottom of this whole thing. I don't need to have any evidence of CRT; the District is not claiming that is the reason for his suspension. You are making that assumption.
The important thing is that we highlight this man as a supposed victim, of course. Because, black guy. ETA: Did I mention that this guy is black? |
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Really doubling\tripling down on it, eh? It's definitely working.
It's not investigative work, though I'm sure to some it may seem that way, it's really just deductive reasoning. I can tell I'm right because the opposing argument, which I guess is what you're trying to present, is providing no other reasoning. Just a constant need to mock the idea that it's racist. That his race can't play a factor. Now, of course, you aren't going to provide any other theories, ideas, or possibilities. Why? You have none. You'll just keep repeating this flippant mockery because you know that eventually no one wants to play chess with a pigeon, right? |
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I wish people would just go back to using the laughing dog emoji. At least that saved time when they picked a stupid hill to triple down defending.
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Yes, yes, yes, I know. This place is just chock full of SJW's and what have you. Which, again, you haven't actually disputed anything I've said. Hell, even this is little more than an ad hom. You aren't dismissing my deductive reasoning based on any of your own. You're just dismissing it because of how we are "around here". It's the laziest, possibly most disingenuous, fallacy to make.
For the record, I'm not saying it's absolutely the reason. I'm saying the way everything is shaping up, it certainly appears to be tied to his race. You (the general you) can't prove a negative, in your case you (you specifically) haven't even tried to prove anything, but I'd be more than interested in what other reasons there could be for his suspension. I'm sure you have one, after all, us groupthink morons here can only see racism. I'd be shocked if a freethinking, out of the box, genius like you didn't have a perfectly valid explanation. Hopefully you can dumb it down for someone like me, I ain't got the good brains. |
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"I'm not racist, I'm just a self appointed 'Too much racism' watchdog in every discussion about racism" is a weird flex, but okay.
And it's not even an original flex. It's the exact same excuse we always get. |
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I guess the only reason black people ever get suspended is over racial matters. That's using the noggin', all right. Of course, when it comes to white people, there are probably a limitless number of other possibilities.
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Your ability to form a strawman has increased! (15)
Your ability to dodge providing an answer has increased! (23) Ooohh nice dig, I think you have it thinly veiled enough to pass muster. Good on ya. Is this all you have? Just a rinse\repeat of "it's not racist"? If so we can just stop. I'm really doing nothing more than forcing you into saying the same thing repeatedly because it's mildly entertaining for me to watch you find new ways to admit, without actually admitting, that you've got no alternative theory. I'm good when you're good. |
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"I'm not racist, I will just never believe a single incident of racism exists" is again, a weird flex.
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Doc Whitfield is calling out the board for racism, according to his own words in his FB posting, because a speaker said Whitfields name during his address (which the Board interrupted to reprimanded Clark for repeatedly during his speaking). Whitfield brought up the couple year old anniversary pics (which he hadn't previously said a peep about) in support of this.
Honestly, now. Does this sound just a little capricious, race-wise? Sounds a whole lot more like an anti-CRT battle getting red-herringed. Dr Whitfield used his personal FB page to discuss both school matters, personal life, and CRT advocating. Seems to me if he kept school matters off the personal FB page, the board would have no issue with any of it. Reasonable or nah? |
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I can't understand your first point at all. Who is Clark? Reprimanded for repeatedly ___ what? In support of "this" what?
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No, they corrected him once, according to reports. The fact is that after they corrected him, he kept calling him by his name, and no one really seemed to bother correcting him after that. Unless I missed something, I've been doing that a lot around here.
I understood that he brought it up to show a pattern of behavior, which appears to be targeting him for minute, pathetic little things just to nitpick or harass him. Yet there's no CRT being taught in the school, let alone by the principal, who of course doesn't teach. He hasn't pushed for anything CRT related to be taught in the schools, he hasn't pressured any teachers to teach racism, etc., or at least there's absolutely no evidence of it. So why would a man who has not done anything at all with regards to implementing, or pursuing the teachings of CRT in a school being targeted? What other possible explanation could there be that a man is being targeted for absolutely no reason at all? Anyone? Take your time. I know I'm stumped. Absolutely Thermal, you're absolutely right. I couldn't agree more. There is absolutely no way at all that anyone, in any way, could possibly view this as racist. Thank you for clearing that up, this is obviously just one big misunderstanding and Whitfield should just shut the **** up, get fired, and learn to keep his God damned mouth shut in the future, ESPECIALLY on his facebook. |
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The entire thread has been nothing but the same "I'm not saying racism doesn't exist, I'm just saying that racism never actually happens, and my proof is liberals are SJW cucks who who overplay the race card" from the same people who make that argument in every thread.
There, now everybody is entirely caught up on everything that matters. |
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Watch the video. I did. It was twice, and no, they didn't let him continue.
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I think my personal favorite has been:
"You have no evidence it's based on racism" To which I reply: "Technically true. There's nothing solid because that's not how ******* racism works. What I can say is that it can't be due to CRT, because he doesn't teach and isn't having his teachers teach CRT? So if that's the reason "they" are upset, then it's just a screen. He took the pictures down per their request so it can't be that either. It's not his job performance or else they wouldn't have said it was a 'personal matter' (which he is steadfastly denying). Which doesn't leave us with a whole hell of a lot of other options. He's obviously being targeted as this is the 3rd thing they've tried to harass him with specifically (the Floyd stuff was brought up too), and it appears this is working." I'm not positive it's racism, but I'm ******* trying to come up with something else and I'm left with my hands open. I've asked warp12 and he doesn't have anything at all. Just the normal one-liner quips that always seem to pop-up. Thermal has made a quasi decent argument, but it's really just based on saying "they didn't say they were racist, so it's probably not racism. It's probably just this CRT thing." Which just doesn't pass the sniff... |
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Do you have a link? Maybe I watched the wrong video. Just a post # will work too.
Plus the complaints about George Floyd and the statements that he's teaching, wants to teach, or is pushing "CRT" in some way, but ok. But they are doing something, he's suspended right now. If what you're saying is true then this is a crazy amount of restriction on the 1st Amendment rights of a public school principal (I'm pretty sure that, like universities they do get reasonable leeway in what they can say, due to being a government employee). Lets be honest though, there will be nothing at all that makes you see this otherwise. You aren't even being honest by including everything that's happened. Nothing will change unless you physically see one of the people involved say on video, "I can't stand black men, and he's a black man" and even then I'm there's a "but he's only one person, not the whole district" waiting on the tip of the tongue. That's not required. That's not something he has to do. That's not a policy I've seen, and that's not what the **** this is about because that's not at all what the school is saying. If you're implying that it's about what he's posting on facebook more than racism then I'll need to see the same amount of evidence that you're requesting with regards to proving it's about racism. As of right now, I see nothing to support this and it's just another red herring in a bowl of red herrings used against this guy. |
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You're conflating entirely different issues: one is the Boards actions against Whitfield, the other is the public complaining about Whitfield. They are not the same issue.
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Clark is reading a prepared speech that is all about Mr Whitfield. He says his name at 13" and 15" in the video, but he's interrupted at 51" and told to stop personalising and concentrate on issues (sounds familiar somehow); he ignores this and carries on with his prepared speech which only addresses Mr Whitfield's views and mentions him several times, including by name at 1' 59". He is again interrupted just after that and asked to stop mentioning specific employees. He continues with his speech and mentions Mr Whitfield again at 2' 28" and then finishes his speech, which he was allowed to do. |
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Black principal will not have his contract renewed because he is too uppity.
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Then he publicly, nay, internationally, calls them racist over the pics from a couple years ago? Yeah, I can sure see someone getting fired over that alone. I certainly hope there is a whole lot more to this story cuz it makes like no sense as-is. What we need are the specifics of the Board's accusations and Whitfield's response to come to even preliminary conclusions. No more red herrings, whether CRT or anniversary pics. |
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How did the Dr. keep this hidden for so long? How did the BoE all of a sudden discover this "laundry list of reasons"? Why was the Dr. repeatedly promoted if he was such a complete and total doofus at his job, as the allegations certainly imply? Like I said, something doesn't make sense. As you've pointed out without hesitancy or second-guessing, it can't, I say it CAN'T be because of racism. So we can scratch that out. I guess he just is exceedingly unqualified and was able to trick them all those years right up until he, coincidentally I'm sure, expressed his opinions about racism, and issues facing PoC\CRT on his FB page. Makes sense to me. |
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It's enough for one of the board members to apologize for it at the least meeting:
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That's a dead-ass bald-faced lie. I said nothing of the kind. Of course it could be; but after rocketing his career to the top, the Board...what? Just now noticed he was black? That's stupid to even suggest.
What might be interesting is if the Board had changed leadership/membership during a recent election. Then it would be a strong case to say that when the Board got new members, his performance was suddenly deemed inadequate. That would be a strong argument for racism or a personal grudge. But if we are looking at the same Board that supported his career advancement, then out of the blue have donned Klan hoods, that's... well a take that will need more support.
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Are you serious? No wonder it's too stupid to suggest, because it's a ******* strawman. No one has implied that. In fact, I don't even see much of this to be the boards doing (outside of voting to hire him, and now voting to not renew). Something I learned through research.
I mean hell, even as you know, someone else brought the complaint about his FB. The board had to address it. The board didn't initiate it them ******* selves. However, it's possible that someone with racial undertones is behind the complaints to the board, maybe, eh? Check this out, cause I'm going to blow your mind right now. THE BOARD ISN'T THE ONE INITIATING OR ATTEMPTING TO FIRE DR. WHITFIELD!
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Evidence? When did he begin posting about racism in society, George Floyd, and CRT? Before he was hired as a principal? Were his opinions already known? When was that in relation to him being promoted, him being dismissed, and him now defending himself against removal? What is the time frame of all of that? This is your claim, support it. I'm not thumbing through his entire FB to see when he started making comments in order for me to support your claim. What the **** is that? Untrue? Matthew straight up provided you God damned time stamps, and a link to the video showing Clark called him out at least half a dozen or more times. Did you look at it? Whitfield's claim isn't that this is all over some douche speaking his name. Whitfield's claim is that he's being targeted for speaking his mind about racially sensitive topics. Something that Clark, himself, said he was targeting Whitfield for! This isn't about the board, the board is just the arbiter. As information has come in we should re-evaluate. The Board has to vote on this, and for some reason the Superintendent now wants the principal gone. So yes, something is definitely off. |
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"Not defending Whitfield" =/= "saying his name". I'm sure they do regret not putting up more of a PR show, considering the fallout.
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Seems to me that the major gripe is that our principal wasn't appropriately obsequious when a small group of unhinged parents starting whining about Critical Race Theory or prudishly complaining about some glamour shots on social media. Rather than stand up for their employee, the board finds it easier to just throw him under the bus.
Hopefully the political fallout for such a shamefully cowardly response will result in sufficient drive to replace these dorks. |
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Yes, it literally ******* does equal that in this case. He brought up the meeting by date. You're great at mind reading though, so I'm sure you're right lol.
Yup, in true "Thermal" style it can only be racism if it's blatantly and excessively over the ******* top racism. No other racism exists. Also, still stuck on "the board" eh? Did you not read a damn thing? I'm not pointing the racist finger at the board, since it doesn't appear this is much of the boards doing. You just either don't understand what's going on, or just don't care. All you care about is that absolutely everyone is found to not be racist. You don't even know what's going on, as you've proven now repeatedly. Just stop. |
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Yeah, stellar research dude. You are parroting back what I already pointed out to you on this very page, that the Board did nothing. Yet from the OP (and Whitfields statements), the Board is being blasted as racist. As we seem to agree, the Board has done nothing yet. So what are you arguing with me about? Im arguing against the alleged racism of the Board. It has not been shown.
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Because while I don't believe the board is racist, I believe Whitfield is being targeted because of racism. I believe the board is being passive in letting Whitfield being attacked, which while it's not racist, all it takes for evil, blah, blah, blah. If they sit and let some ******* break the rules specifically designed to protect its members then they should be called out on it. They were, they are now apologizing.
The entire thing, to me, has been is Whitfield being targeted because of racism? If we agree on parts, great. Go us, we're both awesome. But if the board is pandering to racists then Whitfield is still being targeted because of racism, right? Which, while I can't blame "the board" because it's clear not all of them condone it, it still means racism is a central part. Good God I hope this is ******* clear now. |
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I guess it depends on ow much strength the Board's charges have, which we don't know yet in any detail.
We know the Board is pissed now. They didnt appear to be before being called racist by Whitfield. If all of their complaints stem from Whitfields public charges onward, they have a point. If their documented issues precede the publicity, and are unevidenced, they got some splaining to do Lucy. |
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I don't know what the obsession with "saying his name" is. I'm pretty sure that the problem is not that the complainant said his name out loud, but that he was, as we like to say on this board, addressing the arguer rather than the argument. His entire speech was addressing Mr Whitfield - it really isn't important how many times he "said his name" out loud, the whole thing was personal, and that was the problem.
Maybe we can move on from how many times he "said his name"? |
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