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26th November 2021, 11:32 PM | #1 |
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Joe Biden: racist?
"Trump further diminished the U.S. in the eyes of the world by expanding his travel ban. This new 'African Ban' is designed to make it harder for black and brown people to immigrate to the United States. It’s a disgrace, and we cannot let him succeed." --Joe Biden Feb 1, 2020
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26th November 2021, 11:35 PM | #2 |
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Trump's travel-bans were racist, since he blocked travel from some, but not other countries with high rates of Covid.
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26th November 2021, 11:38 PM | #3 |
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26th November 2021, 11:40 PM | #4 |
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There is no such thing as a racist Democrat. Just ask one.
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26th November 2021, 11:47 PM | #5 |
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Just think, the President of the United States banning entire countries from visiting based on nothing but skin color.
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27th November 2021, 12:52 AM | #6 |
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27th November 2021, 02:11 AM | #7 |
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A fine example of Betteridge's law of headlines.
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“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |
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27th November 2021, 02:33 AM | #9 |
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27th November 2021, 02:45 AM | #10 |
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You might have a point if only people of color from those countries were being banned from entry. Or do you think white South Africans are going to be allowed in on a special "YAB*" pass? The EU and Canada have also issued the same travel ban.
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27th November 2021, 05:22 AM | #13 |
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27th November 2021, 05:35 AM | #14 |
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27th November 2021, 05:44 AM | #16 |
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Baylor became adept at finding examples of black people being criticized for whatever reason and claiming that any criticism of a black person was racist.
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27th November 2021, 06:33 AM | #17 |
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27th November 2021, 08:17 AM | #18 |
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27th November 2021, 08:50 AM | #20 |
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It's hard to look at Biden's long political history and not come to the conclusion that, if not personally racist, he's more than comfortable pandering to racist sentiments.
There's way riper fields to harvest from than targeted, time-limited restrictions to a small number of plague infected countries in Africa. |
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27th November 2021, 09:05 AM | #21 |
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There really is no difference between this and the original travel ban. Look at the countries that are being blocked and which countries are not. I am not even in disagreement over it, but to act like this is different somehow is just reaching.
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27th November 2021, 09:16 AM | #22 |
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I don't know the details of the current ban, but Trump's "ban" were really travel restrictions that didn't apply to everyone coming from those countries and occurred too late to prevent the spread anyway.
To my knowledge, omicron hasn't reached the US yet, has it? If what Biden has put into place is an actual ban (no travel from those countries regardless of who you are) and omicron isn't actually here, there is a substantial difference right there. Again, I have not read into what Biden's ban entails. |
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27th November 2021, 09:23 AM | #23 |
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I'm really laughing at how the OP's point is going over certain people's heads.
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27th November 2021, 11:34 AM | #26 |
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They're totally different!
One of the bans diminished the U.S. in the eyes of the world, was designed to make it harder for black and brown people to immigrate to the United States, and was a complete disgrace. The other one follows the science, and it totally appropriate. It also, we can only assume, enhances the U.S. in the eyes of the world. |
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27th November 2021, 11:40 AM | #27 |
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Shame on you. The YAB* moniker is reserved for dark skinned individuals who didn't vote for Biden. Only dark-skinned individuals who think the right way are allowed to refer to themselves as black. You really haven't been following Joe's campaigning, have you?
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27th November 2021, 11:41 AM | #28 |
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I don't think Trump admin's COVID-19 bans were racist.
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Gotta love the bad faith arguments from people who love the openly racist GQP.
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27th November 2021, 01:31 PM | #31 |
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But -- But I -- I don't understand!
I thought -- But SURELY racism is a right wing virtue?
If Biden is coming around at LAST to the pureblood ethos,* the truly RIGHT way of feeling, isn't that what our whitey tighties want? I'm so CONFUSED! * I love to use that word! I don't know what it means and I don't CARE! |
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27th November 2021, 01:42 PM | #32 |
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"Bans", plural, no, because that includes all such bans, even those enacted later in the pandemic. But his initial ban on (*some) travel between the US and China was clearly racially motivated. It didn't adequately serve the alleged purpose, and at the time was the only such ban proposed, even though at the time, it was clear that COVID was already in many other, non-China, countries. The initial travel ban was nothing more than Trump having an excuse to ban Chinese travel to the US, which he wanted to do anyways because he was losing the Trade War with China that he started. Subsequent bans only came about when it was clear even to Trump that someone had to take COVID seriously. TL;DR: Trump tried to be racist in his travel bans, but the pandemic overtook even his racism. |
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Donny's "ban" was a selective brown-skin Muslim ban, excluding his own buddies. Biden's ban is a COVID ban for all of southern Africa, for everyone. So the OP started with a blatant falsehood, and the usual suspects happily climbed onboard from there. Not even clever ****-stirring.
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Again, none of this is different than the current situation. Belgium has community spread already, see as how the cases there have no interaction with the affected countries. I don't see them on the banned flight list. If the 10% of passengers on 2 flights that reached the Netherlands turns out to be majority omnicron, we can all but guarantee it is everywhere. This does not mean the policy is necessarily a bad idea, just that it is not really a big change from what happened in the past.
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Your post is racist. How do we know this?
Bangladesh suspends travel to South Africa amid fears of Omicron variant spread
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But it gets worse than that. 8.4% of South Africans are white, so that means you are accusing Biden of racism against his own people! And many other African nations are not on the list, implying that this 'racism' is very selective. But it seems your racism is very selective too. Let's be honest here, the real reason for your selectivity is that Biden is a Democrat. You know, that group you hate for no other reason than that they aren't part of your tribe. Skin color is not the only defining factor of racist belief. |
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