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Old 26th November 2021, 11:32 PM   #1
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Joe Biden: racist?

"Trump further diminished the U.S. in the eyes of the world by expanding his travel ban. This new 'African Ban' is designed to make it harder for black and brown people to immigrate to the United States. It’s a disgrace, and we cannot let him succeed." --Joe Biden Feb 1, 2020

U.S. imposes travel ban from eight African countries over Omicron variant
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Old 26th November 2021, 11:35 PM   #2
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Trump's travel-bans were racist, since he blocked travel from some, but not other countries with high rates of Covid.
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Old 26th November 2021, 11:38 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Trump's travel-bans were racist, since he blocked travel from some, but not other countries with high rates of Covid.
Cite? And while you're at it, show that Biden's not doing the same, and also show that there's a correlation to race.
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Old 26th November 2021, 11:40 PM   #4
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There is no such thing as a racist Democrat. Just ask one.
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Old 26th November 2021, 11:47 PM   #5
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Just think, the President of the United States banning entire countries from visiting based on nothing but skin color.
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Old 27th November 2021, 12:52 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
There is no such thing as a racist Democrat. Just ask one.
At least Democrats don't pretend that Racism doesn't exist, and ban all education on the subject.
Republicans think that taking about racism is what's causing it, instead of hundreds of years of institutional racism.
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Old 27th November 2021, 02:17 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
Just think, the President of the United States banning entire countries from visiting based on nothing but skin color.
You meant “based on nothing but a new variant of Covid, one that is potentially more infectious than the Delta ones and that our vaccines may not be as effective.”

Easy mistake to make when you classify people based on their skin colour.
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Old 27th November 2021, 02:33 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
There is no such thing as a racist Democrat. Just ask one.
Do you ever have anything other than snide or insulting comments to contribute? Because I certainly haven't seen them.
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Old 27th November 2021, 02:45 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
"Trump further diminished the U.S. in the eyes of the world by expanding his travel ban. This new 'African Ban' is designed to make it harder for black and brown people to immigrate to the United States. It’s a disgrace, and we cannot let him succeed." --Joe Biden Feb 1, 2020

U.S. imposes travel ban from eight African countries over Omicron variant
You might have a point if only people of color from those countries were being banned from entry. Or do you think white South Africans are going to be allowed in on a special "YAB*" pass? The EU and Canada have also issued the same travel ban.
*You Ain't Black

Is politicizing matters of public health now part of the official GOP platform?
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Old 27th November 2021, 03:47 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
"Trump further diminished the U.S. in the eyes of the world by expanding his travel ban. This new 'African Ban' is designed to make it harder for black and brown people to immigrate to the United States. It’s a disgrace, and we cannot let him succeed." --Joe Biden Feb 1, 2020

U.S. imposes travel ban from eight African countries over Omicron variant
A characteristically bad faith, right-wing post. It reminds me of Trump-supporters saying, "Hey! The MSM originally called COVID Wuhan-Flu, but now that's considered racist. What hypocrites."
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Old 27th November 2021, 04:35 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
Just think, the President of the United States banning entire countries from visiting based on nothing but skin color.
Originally Posted by Darat View Post
You meant “based on nothing but a new variant of Covid, one that is potentially more infectious than the Delta ones and that our vaccines may not be as effective.”

Easy mistake to make when you classify people based on their skin colour.
I agree with Darat
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Old 27th November 2021, 05:22 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Do you ever have anything other than snide or insulting comments to contribute? Because I certainly haven't seen them.
He’s been desperate for liberal tears to drink since late 2018 so…..
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Old 27th November 2021, 05:35 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
There is no such thing as a racist Democrat. Just ask one.
Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Do you ever have anything other than snide or insulting comments to contribute? Because I certainly haven't seen them.
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He’s been desperate for liberal tears to drink since late 2018 so…..
Fortunately, I stumbled upon this oasis.
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Old 27th November 2021, 05:40 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
Just think, the President of the United States banning entire countries from visiting based on nothing but skin color.
As I'm entirely sure you're aware, that is a complete lie. But typical.
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Old 27th November 2021, 05:44 AM   #16
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Baylor became adept at finding examples of black people being criticized for whatever reason and claiming that any criticism of a black person was racist.
I am not at all surprised to see sir drinks-a-lot picking up the baton.
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Old 27th November 2021, 06:33 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
"Trump further diminished the U.S. in the eyes of the world by expanding his travel ban. This new 'African Ban' is designed to make it harder for black and brown people to immigrate to the United States. It’s a disgrace, and we cannot let him succeed." --Joe Biden Feb 1, 2020

U.S. imposes travel ban from eight African countries over Omicron variant
Parroting the right-wing talking points, huh? I saw this meme floating around on twitter yesterday.

Just so I can stay on top of things, what’s your preferred source for things you should be outraged about at a time?
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Old 27th November 2021, 08:17 AM   #18
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Parroting the right-wing talking points, huh?
Whenever I see a leftist screech about "Parroting", I just have to laugh. Especially around here.

Contrary to popular belief, leftists do not fear guns. Mirrors, on the other hand...

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Old 27th November 2021, 08:33 AM   #19
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I... Wow.

That post was so much lacking in substance, it created a vacuum and literally sucked.
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It's hard to look at Biden's long political history and not come to the conclusion that, if not personally racist, he's more than comfortable pandering to racist sentiments.

There's way riper fields to harvest from than targeted, time-limited restrictions to a small number of plague infected countries in Africa.
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There really is no difference between this and the original travel ban. Look at the countries that are being blocked and which countries are not. I am not even in disagreement over it, but to act like this is different somehow is just reaching.
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There really is no difference between this and the original travel ban. Look at the countries that are being blocked and which countries are not. I am not even in disagreement over it, but to act like this is different somehow is just reaching.
I don't know the details of the current ban, but Trump's "ban" were really travel restrictions that didn't apply to everyone coming from those countries and occurred too late to prevent the spread anyway.

To my knowledge, omicron hasn't reached the US yet, has it? If what Biden has put into place is an actual ban (no travel from those countries regardless of who you are) and omicron isn't actually here, there is a substantial difference right there.

Again, I have not read into what Biden's ban entails.
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I'm really laughing at how the OP's point is going over certain people's heads.
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I'm really laughing at how the OP's point is going over certain people's heads.
Are false equivalencies a point?
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Are false equivalencies a point?
Think harder, bro.
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There really is no difference between this and the original travel ban. Look at the countries that are being blocked and which countries are not. I am not even in disagreement over it, but to act like this is different somehow is just reaching.
They're totally different!

One of the bans diminished the U.S. in the eyes of the world, was designed to make it harder for black and brown people to immigrate to the United States, and was a complete disgrace.

The other one follows the science, and it totally appropriate. It also, we can only assume, enhances the U.S. in the eyes of the world.
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You might have a point if only people of color from those countries were being banned from entry. Or do you think white South Africans are going to be allowed in on a special "YAB*" pass?

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Shame on you. The YAB* moniker is reserved for dark skinned individuals who didn't vote for Biden. Only dark-skinned individuals who think the right way are allowed to refer to themselves as black. You really haven't been following Joe's campaigning, have you?

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I don't think Trump admin's COVID-19 bans were racist.

And I don't think the one under Biden's is either.
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Gotta love the bad faith arguments from people who love the openly racist GQP.
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A characteristically bad faith, right-wing post. It reminds me of Trump-supporters saying, "Hey! The MSM originally called COVID Wuhan-Flu, but now that's considered racist. What hypocrites."
It really is. Bad faith, trolling nonsense.
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But -- But I -- I don't understand!

I thought -- But SURELY racism is a right wing virtue?

If Biden is coming around at LAST to the pureblood ethos,* the truly RIGHT way of feeling, isn't that what our whitey tighties want? I'm so CONFUSED!

* I love to use that word! I don't know what it means and I don't CARE!
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I don't think Trump admin's COVID-19 bans were racist.

And I don't think the one under Biden's is either.


"Bans", plural, no, because that includes all such bans, even those enacted later in the pandemic.

But his initial ban on (*some) travel between the US and China was clearly racially motivated. It didn't adequately serve the alleged purpose, and at the time was the only such ban proposed, even though at the time, it was clear that COVID was already in many other, non-China, countries.

The initial travel ban was nothing more than Trump having an excuse to ban Chinese travel to the US, which he wanted to do anyways because he was losing the Trade War with China that he started.

Subsequent bans only came about when it was clear even to Trump that someone had to take COVID seriously.

TL;DR: Trump tried to be racist in his travel bans, but the pandemic overtook even his racism.
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Donny's "ban" was a selective brown-skin Muslim ban, excluding his own buddies. Biden's ban is a COVID ban for all of southern Africa, for everyone. So the OP started with a blatant falsehood, and the usual suspects happily climbed onboard from there. Not even clever ****-stirring.
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Shame on you. The YAB* moniker is reserved for dark skinned individuals who didn't vote for Biden. Only dark-skinned individuals who think the right way are allowed to refer to themselves as black. You really haven't been following Joe's campaigning, have you?

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I see you fail to address the point of my post: are only people of color being banned from entering or does that extend to white people, too?

No need to explain why you ignored that and reverted to the above strawman: it's painfully obvious.
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But his initial ban on (*some) travel between the US and China was clearly racially motivated. It didn't adequately serve the alleged purpose, and at the time was the only such ban proposed, even though at the time, it was clear that COVID was already in many other, non-China, countries.
Again, none of this is different than the current situation. Belgium has community spread already, see as how the cases there have no interaction with the affected countries. I don't see them on the banned flight list. If the 10% of passengers on 2 flights that reached the Netherlands turns out to be majority omnicron, we can all but guarantee it is everywhere. This does not mean the policy is necessarily a bad idea, just that it is not really a big change from what happened in the past.
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So the OP started with a blatant falsehood, and the usual suspects happily climbed onboard from there. Not even clever ****-stirring.
The OP is nothing but a Biden quote and a Reuters headline. Which one contains the blatant falsehood?
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I see you fail to address the point of my post: are only people of color being banned from entering or does that extend to white people, too?
The answer is the same for both Trump and Biden’s restrictions. So are they racist or not? Biden seems to think they are. Oh, wait, no he doesn’t. Oh, wait…
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I'm really laughing at how the OP's point is going over certain people's heads.
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Think harder, bro.
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Do you ever have anything other than snide or insulting comments to contribute? Because I certainly haven't seen them.
Question answered then.
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Old 27th November 2021, 03:36 PM   #39
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The answer is the same for both Trump and Biden’s restrictions. So are they racist or not? Biden seems to think they are. Oh, wait, no he doesn’t. Oh, wait…
Oh, get off it. This is about as intellectually dishonest as an 'argument' can be. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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Old 27th November 2021, 04:28 PM   #40
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"Trump further diminished the U.S. in the eyes of the world by expanding his travel ban. This new 'African Ban' is designed to make it harder for black and brown people to immigrate to the United States. It’s a disgrace, and we cannot let him succeed." --Joe Biden Feb 1, 2020

U.S. imposes travel ban from eight African countries over Omicron variant
Your post is racist. How do we know this?

Bangladesh suspends travel to South Africa amid fears of Omicron variant spread
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Bangladesh on Saturday suspended travel from South Africa immediately, joining a growing list of countries banning travel to the country amid fears of the spread of the new coronavirus variant, Omicron, first detected there...

Countries around the world are currently racing to introduce travel bans and restrictions on southern African countries in an effort to contain Omicron's spread...

Other countries include Mauritius, Israel, Sri Lanka, the US and the Netherlands
You imply that Biden (who is white) is racist for banning travel from South Africa, but nary a peep about countries whose leaders are Indian, Sri Lankan or Jewish. Why? Because they aren't 'white'?

But it gets worse than that. 8.4% of South Africans are white, so that means you are accusing Biden of racism against his own people! And many other African nations are not on the list, implying that this 'racism' is very selective.

But it seems your racism is very selective too. Let's be honest here, the real reason for your selectivity is that Biden is a Democrat. You know, that group you hate for no other reason than that they aren't part of your tribe. Skin color is not the only defining factor of racist belief.
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