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Old 14th April 2019, 11:24 PM   #1001
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Dammit!

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Old 15th April 2019, 02:48 PM   #1002
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$100/1 for a Greens PM.
$1,000,000/1 for a Paul Keating last-minute-Lazarus resurrection to take the Labor PM-ship from Shorten.
$1,000,000,000/1 for any of Hanson, Anning, Latham or Bob Katter to be allowed in the PM's office except for a caning.

Thanks for that. I think I may risk a dollar on that last option.
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Old 16th April 2019, 12:17 AM   #1003
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Oops...

Liberal candidate invites 10,000 voters to an Adelaide cafe, but forgets to tell the owners
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Old 16th April 2019, 03:03 PM   #1004
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post

With that astute degree of political acumen he should go far in the Liberal party.
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Old 16th April 2019, 03:46 PM   #1005
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That is a basic error. He does not deserve to win.
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Old 16th April 2019, 05:58 PM   #1006
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Morrison and McCormack are at a carrot farm in Tasmania right now. McCormack just said this:

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"I’m only sorry I didn’t bring a pocket of nails today because with this soil I could have thrown them in the ground and grown crowbars. That’s the sort of potential that we’ve got here in Tasmania.”


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Old 16th April 2019, 06:01 PM   #1007
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
At least one cafe gets some solid business all day.
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Old 16th April 2019, 06:10 PM   #1008
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Morrison and McCormack are at a carrot farm in Tasmania right now. McCormack just said this:



https://i.imgur.com/ZvWxgChm.png

Source, of course
.............is there a crowbar shortage somewhere??
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Old 16th April 2019, 07:18 PM   #1009
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
.............is there a crowbar shortage somewhere??
He was trying to say that the soil in Tasmania is so good that you could grow crowbars from planting nails.

I mean weird flex, but okay.
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Old 16th April 2019, 11:43 PM   #1010
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
He was trying to say that the soil in Tasmania is so good that you could grow crowbars from planting nails.

I mean weird flex, but okay.
I understood that it was hyperbole. Just that it's sort of weird and rather inappropriate hyperbole. But perhaps that's the LNP for you.
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Old 17th April 2019, 08:59 PM   #1011
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Okay, so... this is happening...

Alt-right to release 'avalanche' of election campaign propaganda to help Fraser Anning

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Leaked messages have revealed the Australian alt-right's secret plan to use Queensland senator Fraser Anning to expand its extreme agenda in the Australian Parliament and beyond.

The texts, seen by Background Briefing, offer a rare insight into the strategy the movement intends to use to further its goals and spread its ideology.

Members of the group are seen discussing plans for confrontational racist stunts to be performed during the current federal election campaign.

The proposed stunts, designed to attract global attention and help Senator Anning get re-elected, include performing in "blackface and other taboos" and "burning the Koran".

Another stated goal is "obtaining and accessing a giant email and SMS database" in order to send messages that are "extremely right-wing".
It goes on. And on.

Fortunately, I'm pretty sure most Australians are smarter than this and will condemn and despise these tactics as all reasonable people should.
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Leaked messages have revealed the Australian alt-right's secret plan to use Queensland senator Fraser Anning to expand its extreme agenda in the Australian Parliament and beyond.

The texts, seen by Background Briefing, offer a rare insight into the strategy the movement intends to use to further its goals and spread its ideology.
"Hey guys, if we can get the footy team onside including the bench players, we will get our voter numbers into the twenties!!!!
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I am going to be watching the seat of Dawson closely this election, and would dearly love to see George (Ban the burqa, cut immigration, stop same-sex marriage and reject climate change) Christensen, get booted out of parliament.
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Old 22nd April 2019, 01:50 PM   #1014
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Okay, so... this is happening...

Alt-right to release 'avalanche' of election campaign propaganda to help Fraser Anning

It goes on. And on.

Fortunately, I'm pretty sure most Australians are smarter than this and will condemn and despise these tactics as all reasonable people should.
They should egg him at each and every opportunity.
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Old 22nd April 2019, 02:00 PM   #1015
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Today's NYT Daily Briefing contains this. <3

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Today's NYT Daily Briefing contains this. <3

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I don't see the connection. Do you think that immigration should continue at current levels regardless of how crowded Sydney is?
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I don't see the connection. Do you think that immigration should continue at current levels regardless of how crowded Sydney is?


Libs have been settling refugees in rural areas very successfully in places I know.

Morrison is relying on kneejerk cultural bias against rural areas and non-australians to think cities are the only places immigrants (not just refugees) can work or open businesses.
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Old 22nd April 2019, 07:35 PM   #1018
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The AEC has just tweeted out that registration of eligible voters for the 2019 election is at 96.8%, which is a record number. Never in Australia's history has the registration level been this high. 88.8% of 18-20 year olds are registered.
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What a tool: https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austra...hristian-faith

No, Scotty, me old mate - the gutless clown is the one who needs the comfort blanket of an invisible sky-daddy.

No doubt that crap will play well to the faithful.
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The AEC has just tweeted out that registration of eligible voters for the 2019 election is at 96.8%, which is a record number. Never in Australia's history has the registration level been this high. 88.8% of 18-20 year olds are registered.
The LNP are doomed. More doomed. The doomiest. Not a ******* chance.
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The LNP are doomed. More doomed. The doomiest. Not a ******* chance.
The odds have lengthened slightly for Labor.* ALP: $1.22, Coalition: $4.25
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting...deral-politics

* This means that according to SportsBet, there is a 24% chance that Labor could lose.
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What a tool: https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austra...hristian-faith

No, Scotty, me old mate - the gutless clown is the one who needs the comfort blanket of an invisible sky-daddy.

No doubt that crap will play well to the faithful.
His loony religion will cost him. He once said his faith determined his political decisions. Go **** yourself.
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The odds have lengthened slightly for Labor.* ALP: $1.22, Coalition: $4.25
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting...deral-politics

* This means that according to SportsBet, there is a 24% chance that Labor could lose.
Have to admit: Labor do have the remarkable ability at times to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The last NSW election was an example. let's hope that was a recent and salutary lesson.
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His loony religion will cost him. He once said his faith determined his political decisions. Go **** yourself.
This. And it applies to all political parties.
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That photo that's been doing the rounds that's been interpreted as being similar to a Nazi salute, that's rubbish. One raised hand is an extremely common gesture during Pentecostal worship. Most of the time it's done as you can see ScoMo doing it in the photo, with the arm slightly bent and the fingers pointing upwards, but they raise and lower their hands and if you snap your shot at just the right moment, you can catch it at that moment that it most resembles a Nazi salute, like the other guy in the photo.

But the resemblance is superficial. Sometimes they do it with one hand, sometimes they do it with both hands. Sometimes they seem to "pat" the air. The fact that it can occasionally momentarily resemble a Nazi salute is pure coincidence. Do a Google image search for "pentecostal worship" and you'll see dozens of people with their hands in the air. It means nothing, except that pentecostals really get into their worship.
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That photo that's been doing the rounds that's been interpreted as being similar to a Nazi salute, that's rubbish. One raised hand is an extremely common gesture during Pentecostal worship. Most of the time it's done as you can see ScoMo doing it in the photo, with the arm slightly bent and the fingers pointing upwards, but they raise and lower their hands and if you snap your shot at just the right moment, you can catch it at that moment that it most resembles a Nazi salute, like the other guy in the photo.

But the resemblance is superficial. Sometimes they do it with one hand, sometimes they do it with both hands. Sometimes they seem to "pat" the air. The fact that it can occasionally momentarily resemble a Nazi salute is pure coincidence. Do a Google image search for "pentecostal worship" and you'll see dozens of people with their hands in the air. It means nothing, except that pentecostals really get into their worship.
Yes agreed. He should, however, be judged on his fundamentalist beliefs and how they effect his political decisions. He said they do. He needs to be asked to explain this and held to account.

Keating was a staunch catholic but I don’t think any decision of his was influenced by his beliefs. The fundamentalism of Morrison should be an election issue.
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His loony religion will cost him. He once said his faith determined his political decisions. Go **** yourself.
Who can trust this wanker and what he says will or will not affect his political decisions. About his faith he just said:

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"How does it affect my policy? As I said in my first speech, it's not a policy issue and I openly accept and celebrate that people of the same faith will have different political views."
If he believes this tosh and its so important to him, how can it not effect his political decisions. For example, as I have pointed out before, a guy who thinks we are in "End Times", cannot be concerned about the state the world is going to be in, after Jesus has brought it to an end.
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So now we have Barney raising, once again, the implementation of the Bradfield Scheme to divert water inland.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-...ought/11029284


In spite of the fact, it has been investigated and dismissed more than once, by those who have some knowledge of costs and environmental impact, idiots like Barney just warm it up and serve it to us again.
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On The Conversation, Barnaby Joyce seems to be referred to as 'BB' a lot.

Apparently this stands for the 'Bonking Beetroot' which is unusual, to say the least.
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Yes agreed. He should, however, be judged on his fundamentalist beliefs and how they effect his political decisions. He said they do. He needs to be asked to explain this and held to account.

Keating was a staunch catholic but I don’t think any decision of his was influenced by his beliefs. The fundamentalism of Morrison should be an election issue.
Right, and I agree, but I've seen people saying that he's literally a Nazi because he's giving a Nazi salute. That's just wrong.
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Keating was a staunch catholic but I don’t think any decision of his was influenced by his beliefs. The fundamentalism of Morrison should be an election issue.
You prefer an arrogant hypocritical bastard like Keating to ScoMo? Unbelievable!

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For example, as I have pointed out before, a guy who thinks we are in "End Times", cannot be concerned about the state the world is going to be in, after Jesus has brought it to an end.
What do you think ScoMo is going to do? Build underground bunkers?

I am not interested in his religious views. I want ScoMo gone because his party is beholden to multinational giants.
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You prefer an arrogant hypocritical bastard like Keating to ScoMo? Unbelievable!
I would prefer almost anyone to ScoMo, but lionking is making a specific point - that ScoMo's policies are faith-based, while Keating's weren't. If he is expressing a preference at all, lionking prefers a person who does not base policy on faith over a person who does. Arrogance and hypocrisy aren't under discussion.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
I would prefer almost anyone to ScoMo, but lionking is making a specific point - that ScoMo's policies are faith-based, while Keating's weren't. If he is expressing a preference at all, lionking prefers a person who does not base policy on faith over a person who does. Arrogance and hypocrisy aren't under discussion.
LK vomited brought up Paul Keating - not me.

If ScoMo has a hiden agenda then it is more likely to be a corporate one than a religious one - just like any Liberal (and not so rarely, Labor) politician. If his religious views had any effect on his policies then I would have thought that it would mean that he was less likely to lie and have more compassion for the poor (and that's not likely).
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LK vomited brought up Paul Keating - not me.

If ScoMo has a hiden agenda then it is more likely to be a corporate one than a religious one - just like any Liberal (and not so rarely, Labor) politician. If his religious views had any effect on his policies then I would have thought that it would mean that he was less likely to lie and have more compassion for the poor (and that's not likely).
ScoMo has stated publicly that he has a religious agenda.
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Old 24th April 2019, 03:44 PM   #1035
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ScoMo has stated publicly that he has a religious agenda.


Indeed, and as a good Pentecostal how could he not?

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No Pentecostal quarantines their religion in a churchy quarter of their being, let alone one who has been a passionate believer since his teens and in his first speech to parliament acknowledged Brian Houston, the co-founder of Hillsong, as a mentor.

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Belief in Satan and the imminent return of Christ also helps explain the prime minister’s less-than-passionate response to the most pressing environmental issue of our time. It is not surprising that Pentecostal activism about climate change is non-existent – the end of the known world is not a matter for mere mortals to decide. When Morrison proudly showed off a piece of coal in parliament, there is no reason to doubt that he believed what he held in his hand was a gift from God.

Stressing one of my main obsessions about the problem with religiously committed people in positions of power. God is in control so why should we worry about climate change?
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The end of the world has been imminent since the death of Christ. It is mentioned in the bible that it will happen in their lifetimes. That was almost 2,000 years ago.
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Stressing one of my main obsessions about the problem with religiously committed people in positions of power. God is in control so why should we worry about climate change?
ScoMo is just sucking up to the coal mining companies.
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ScoMo is just sucking up to the coal mining companies.
How many votes do they bring to the table? No, I’ll answer that. Next to zero.

So if he is sucking up to coal mining companies, he is a bigger fool than I thought. And I think he’s a trumpian fool already.
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Stressing one of my main obsessions about the problem with religiously committed people in positions of power. God is in control so why should we worry about climate change?
Originally Posted by psionl0 View Post
ScoMo is just sucking up to the coal mining companies.
Originally Posted by lionking View Post
How many votes do they bring to the table? No, I’ll answer that. Next to zero.

So if he is sucking up to coal mining companies, he is a bigger fool than I thought. And I think he’s a trumpian fool already.

psion manages to miss the point in a spectacular way ...... yet again.

A "trumpian fool", yes I like that, and so apt.
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How many votes do they bring to the table? No, I’ll answer that. Next to zero.
Don't be so naive. You know very well that they bring money to election campaigns (and direct campaign money away from opposition groups).

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psion manages to miss the point in a spectacular way ...... yet again.
Have you got any evidence that ScoMo's love of coal is based on religion?
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