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Old 15th April 2019, 10:22 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by cjameshuff View Post
Sounds like you didn't read to the point where it said: "The idea is to fly the plane to 10 km (6.2 miles) high before releasing satellites into orbit."

Or even to "the aircraft is designed to act as a flying launch pad for satellites".

Actually, the article's only direct reference to rockets being involved in air launch is in reference to Virgin Orbit.
Oh crappe! I did miss that!
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Old 15th April 2019, 02:49 PM   #42
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r/space are reporting that they have lost the centre core. Heavy seas tipped it over. looks like the Octograbber robot can't handle FH centre cores. Damn.

Good job they made another. I bet they will recover it when they can to do a structural analysis.
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Old 15th April 2019, 04:14 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by Mikemcc View Post
r/space are reporting that they have lost the centre core. Heavy seas tipped it over. looks like the Octograbber robot can't handle FH centre cores. Damn.

Good job they made another. I bet they will recover it when they can to do a structural analysis.
Yeah, that's unfortunate. At least they were already planning on a new core for the next launch, due to not being sure this one would successfully land.

I wonder if there's any wreckage to go over or if it all went over board. Might still be able to inspect the base shielding and see how it performed on such a high energy reentry.
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Old 15th April 2019, 07:10 PM   #44
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Wait, so the centre core landed, but then fell off the ship?
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Old 15th April 2019, 07:28 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Wait, so the centre core landed, but then fell off the ship?
Rough seas on the way back, and it wasn't tied down. The robot that they built to grab the landed rockets hasn't been upgraded for falcon heavy yet, and I imagine they didn't want to put people onboard to do the job if seas were rough.
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Old 15th April 2019, 07:34 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by phunk View Post
Rough seas on the way back, and it wasn't tied down. The robot that they built to grab the landed rockets hasn't been upgraded for falcon heavy yet, and I imagine they didn't want to put people onboard to do the job if seas were rough.
Perhaps a refit of Of Course I Still Love You with some tiedowns is in order.
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An obvious cover-up for the truth: the center was stolen by pirates.
Space pirates.
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Old 15th April 2019, 08:57 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Perhaps a refit of Of Course I Still Love You with some tiedowns is in order.
They have a robot that crawls under a landed booster and anchors it by hard points underneath, but the Heavy center core doesn't have the same hard points due to the structural changes/side core attachments. They just need to modify the robot to be compatible.
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Old 15th April 2019, 09:40 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by cjameshuff View Post
They have a robot that crawls under a landed booster and anchors it by hard points underneath, but the Heavy center core doesn't have the same hard points due to the structural changes/side core attachments. They just need to modify the robot to be compatible.
Ah, that makes sense.
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Old 16th April 2019, 01:29 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by cjameshuff View Post
They have a robot that crawls under a landed booster and anchors it by hard points underneath, but the Heavy center core doesn't have the same hard points due to the structural changes/side core attachments. They just need to modify the robot to be compatible.
I don't remember where, but I saw a post saying that the upgrade is supposed to be done before STP-2, which is scheduled for June.
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Old 16th April 2019, 07:45 PM   #51
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I'm seeing some confusion now as to whether the booster fell into the sea or is lying on the deck.
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Apparently, they thought it went over the side, but its lying on the deck intact but damaged. They think they will be able to salvage the engines and the grid fins.
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Old 17th April 2019, 08:11 AM   #53
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Apparently, they thought it went over the side, but its lying on the deck intact but damaged. They think they will be able to salvage the engines and the grid fins.
Saw a tweet from Elon saying the engines looked ok so I'm assuming it's on its side with the business end propped up on two legs still.
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Originally Posted by phunk View Post
Saw a tweet from Elon saying the engines looked ok so I'm assuming it's on its side with the business end propped up on two legs still.
Oh, hadn't thought about the legs! I was somehow picturing it rolling around. The legs would make it nice and stable. I'd think at least one grid fin would be damaged.
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Oh, hadn't thought about the legs! I was somehow picturing it rolling around. The legs would make it nice and stable. I'd think at least one grid fin would be damaged.
The grid fins are in line with the legs so if it tipped over on two legs it probably damaged 2 of the grid fins, if they landed on the deck. Given the dimensions of the ship, there's a pretty good chance though the top of the rocket landed past the edge of the ship. I don't know if that means it's hanging over the edge, or just sheered off.
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Everyday Astronaut will probably have something on it soon.
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Everyday Astronaut will probably have something on it soon.
I've been watching him, but prefer Scott Manley. Something about that soothing Scottish accent!
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
I've been watching him, but prefer Scott Manley. Something about that soothing Scottish accent!
They're both good. I like EA's music.
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https://twitter.com/spacecoast_stve/...66512079298560

Top half is just gone. Looks like it broke through the fuel tank, maybe the lox tank is intact and floating around out there somewhere? Probably not.
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https://twitter.com/spacecoast_stve/...66512079298560

Top half is just gone. Looks like it broke through the fuel tank, maybe the lox tank is intact and floating around out there somewhere? Probably not.
Pretty sure he's wrong about the "snapped hold-down chains" he mentions in another tweet. They weren't able to board the ASDS to tie it down due to the weather. The angle iron bits and support brace look like they were added in a hurry to hold the remains in place after it tipped, not to hold the landed booster down. The chains just aren't tight.
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